Re: Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

2017-03-09 Thread Nomen Nescio
brandon said: > > > This is a bunk argument. If, for example, a server is set up to > > > deny you access to files because you don't have an account and, > > > thus, you cannot download them with wget, the server is not > > > denying freedom 0 to you. > > > > GNU wget is equipped with httppost

CloudFlare, not good choice, (Re: [security-discuss] Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist)

2017-03-09 Thread Jean Louis
On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 09:53:00PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > Indeed, and we are not required to make it work for everyone. > > You've misunderstood the problem. It's not that GNU Radio Foundation, > Inc. is not taking actions to make something work, it's that GRFI has > taken actions to

Re: Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

2017-03-09 Thread Nomen Nescio
Alfred M. Szmidt said: >That it works on your side, it means not it works on someone's >else side. > > Indeed, and we are not required to make it work for everyone. You've misunderstood the problem. It's not that GNU Radio Foundation, Inc. is not taking actions to make something work,

Re: [security-discuss] gnuradio project DoS attacks GNU wget users

2017-03-09 Thread Assaf Gordon
Hello Anonymous and all, On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 05:31:01AM -0500, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: On the other hand, the website http://gnuradio.org/ is not providing a reference to documentation. Please send suggestions to improving GNU radio to the GNU radio maintainers. The GNU radio

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2017-03-09 Thread Anonymous
Alfred M. Szmidt said: >GNU Radio Foundation, Inc. is denying freedom 0 to GNU wget >users. The only GNU Radio users being denied freedom 0 are those >who are also GNU wget users. > > 1) GNU wget users are not being "denied" access to GNU radio via >Tor. Here is me downloading

Re: Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

2017-03-09 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
> 2017-03-09 09:49:16 (4.04 MB/s) - ‘gnuradio-3.7.10.1.tar.gz’ saved > [4272430/4272430] That it works on your side, it means not it works on someone's else side. Indeed, and we are not required to make it work for everyone. But as it happens, it does work, so any claims to

Re: Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

2017-03-09 Thread Brandon Invergo
On Wed, 2017-03-08 at 22:53 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > It's in fact that separate issue that has been under discussion here. > To date, there has been no claim or discussion over whether the use of > the GNU Radio application is restricted.  That's not a point of > contention.  GNU Radio

Re: Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

2017-03-09 Thread Jean Louis
On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 04:03:34AM -0500, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: >GNU Radio Foundation, Inc. is denying freedom 0 to GNU wget users. >The only GNU Radio users being denied freedom 0 are those who are >also GNU wget users. > > 1) GNU wget users are not being "denied" access to GNU

Re: state of gnuradio freedom and security issues (was: gnuradio project DoS..)

2017-03-09 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Cloudflare may be easily avoided, it is not Tor friendly, so I would avoid it. According to Svetlana Tkachenko the issues with Cloudfare and Tor have been fixed, so I can only assume that they are indeed Tor friendly.