g-discuss is a private list though:
That's ok. This is a question of GNU Project policy,
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don't have a rule saying "Don't use GitHub!"
Meanwhile, I think they both started using GitHub before we had published
even a criticism of it.
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.
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relate to GNU?
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does, an exokernel does not replace an ordinary kernel.
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nderstood It's an attempt to a GNU exokernel.
What would that mean?
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won't be a
need. But we are not trapped. I see this as an issue of some concern
but no reason for alarm.
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ought to be
designed with standard _local_ interfaces that can talk directly
with the user's own computer. Of course, if the software in the device
is ever to be upgraded, it must be free software.
If the device is designed that way, it may be fine for it to use
any free kernel you would use in a compu
implemented to stop it from happening again,
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> Source?
At least ArchWiki.
Arch Linux Wiki is sometimes attacked by GLAT scammers and they insert this
date as deadline to install GLAT Client and purchase a license.
Some articles might be found in the Internet Archive.
Some examples:
-
Same source, not RMS.
Later investigation shown that http://demo.simplacommerce.com/ is another
Simpla CMS demo with same vulnerability.
I\'m not RMS, nor GNU staff.
I have done some investigation and found that spam originated from
http://demo.simplacms.ru/ website which runs Simpla. This CMS is unmaintained
for long time and has vulnerability which allows GLAT scammers to send emails
anonymously by uploading PHP scripts.
f the conflict, did you simply visit
> the file with conflicts, or did you do something else? IOW, what can
> you remember about the commands and actions you did before those
> windows popped up?
I don't know.
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e multiple windows?
(Is it Smerge mode which does that?)
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as one of those windows a buffer I could simply edit
manually? If so, which one is it? If I delete the other windows
and edit manually, will that enable me to proceed by msnusl merging?
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install GNU/Linux Activation Technologies Client if you are running
GNU/Linux.
Most distributions are already selling licenses.
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-discuss.
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ull again, then commit, then I could use
git the way I use cvs.
What happens with git push if some conflicting other change has been
installed in the repository in the mean time? Maybe that is what
fell on the floor.
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're looking for
> help with this.
I've learned that when people offer me help with git
it does not address the problem I actually encountered,
3 or 4 years ago.
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somewhere between those two statements.
We should not let companies dominate the free software movement,
but we encourage companies to develop and release free programs.
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endorsements for git, ask those people.
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that my simple recipe for committing my changes
did not work.
I will stick to CVS.
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hes booting, so that is what Purism does.
This is not entirely satisfactory, I agree. But it isn't Purism's
fault. People must make up their own minds about whether this
is good enough, but don't condemn Purism for it.
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VC
> was designed. One of many examples of this is that it requires
> staging changes before committing them.
Maybe that is the aspect that convinced me to give up on using git.
Or maybe it was "stashing". I am not sure what the difference is.
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that.
This list is for system-level technical discussions only.
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ack' does. It might not be
what I want.
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he agreed to cooperate with this.
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know what I have already tried
and it would take me half an hour to write that down.
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ter
> passphrase, it would be kept in the file or provided as a string on
> command line.
> --passphrase-file file
Thanks, but I really do not want to have my passphrase stored in a file
on my computer.
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I
? It has to do mainly with copyright assignments.
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of the obstacle.
Do you want to try to fix the problem? I don't know whether you
already work on Emacs Lisp code.
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first.
Thank you.
What front-ends do you use for CVS? I'm assuming emacs vcs mode
> and the command line?
Yes.
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the way CVS handles them? Given that, I expect I
could use Git.
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ecial library that shall sacrifice freedom
> in special cases.
How do other programs talk with systemD? Do they link with it?
Communicate through pipes?
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nduct, the Kind Communication
Guidelines teach what is better and what is worse. So people can
continue to improve, beyond merely "acceptable".
I will not adopt a code of conduct for GNU.
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titude do they
display?
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use
> they are promised freedom.
Some of us do! And more of us can. Teaching people to value freedom
enough to choose it is a high priority.
You don't have to work on that yourself, but please do not spread
defeatism about it.
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d we work with the systemD developers to standardize an API for
this purpose?
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We never made it a standard
that GNU packages must use the Autotools.
The standard we have is that ./configure; make install
should build and install the package. _How_ they do it
is up to the package maintainers.
Does GNOME implement that spec?
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responded privately to your message.
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e and
"unacceptable" on the other, the Guidelines teach what it means to be
better or worse. Thus, it guides people to improve, beyond merely
"acceptable".
The FSF supports outreach activities to disprivileged demographic
groups.
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ferred learning style helps the person to learn better.
Maybe we don't need to include that dimension of variation.
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not tied to any particular vendor. Indeed, the usual concept of
"vendor" for free software is not applicable to free software at all.
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Int
al list of differences that nondiscrimination law covers, or might
cover. For instance, it might include profession, preferred learning
style, educational background, personality, and other ways in which
people's thinking can vary.
Are people interested in working practically on this?
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I hope that someone who does have
influence there will ask people to stop that.
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E 3.
GNOME 2 is a 1990s PC-style graphical interface, while GNOME 3
resembles a tablet's interface. I and many other hackers prefer GNOME
2, but I'm told lots of users like GNOME 3. It seems to me that it is
good to have both of them.
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ase, this discussion is off-topic for gnu-system-discuss.
This list is meant for technical discussions only.
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t doesn't
recommend nonfree extensions.
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orientation. Please don't discuss those
topics here, or in any GNU mailing list.
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Please, everyone, move this discussion there.
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lly
> banned from its channels so people know what they're in for.
No ideology is "banned" on GNU Project mailing lists, but they are off
topic so people should not discuss them here.
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ree that it says something. If Debian made a specific decision
to keep ferret rather than delete it, that says more.
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be discontinued, please don't fail to discuss it with
maintain...@gnu.org.
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oved,
or do the rules make that hopeless?
If the rules make that hopeless, what is the impossible
thing they require?
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; work on this.
I wrote to him.
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Would you like to maintain it?
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?
Because that's the way it is done.
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antee that you can successfully do any
particular job with it.
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Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.
on GNU servers and have it available for everyone.
We urge all GNU package maintainers to put their releases on
ftp.gnu.org. But we neve required this as a rule, and making it a
rule would run into some resistance.
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In
that.
> problem 3) GRFI violates the GFDL requirement that the manual be
>available in a simple format.
The GFDL reqquires distributing a _transparent_ format, and
one is available.
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not a policy, just a bug. We are working on fixing it.
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Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.
dox files.
Thanks. Now I know what to say to the maintainer about this.
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Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.
ing of
> the "User Manual", the various parts of GNU radio, and what not and
> are scattered around in various doc/ directories.
Based on that, I conclude that the .dox files are source code for
the manual, and so are the C++ files.
Do the .dox files state any license?
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/~dimitri/doxygen/support.html
Thanks.
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Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.
.html?
I am guessing that you already know the answer, but I don't -- I have
never seen either of them.
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