Re: gnuradio project DoS attacks GNU wget users

2017-03-02 Thread Nomen Nescio
Alfred M. Szmidt said: >That is lack of police at the GNU project. > > That is a good thing. It's only a good thing when police are not needed. I also think Jean Louis was using "police" loosely, perhaps to also mean lack of /legislators/ using feedback to make adjustments when shit

Re: Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

2017-03-09 Thread Nomen Nescio
brandon said: > > > This is a bunk argument. If, for example, a server is set up to > > > deny you access to files because you don't have an account and, > > > thus, you cannot download them with wget, the server is not > > > denying freedom 0 to you. > > > > GNU wget is equipped with httppost

Re: Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

2017-03-09 Thread Nomen Nescio
Alfred M. Szmidt said: >That it works on your side, it means not it works on someone's >else side. > > Indeed, and we are not required to make it work for everyone. You've misunderstood the problem. It's not that GNU Radio Foundation, Inc. is not taking actions to make something work,

why Tor whitelisting is a bad idea (was: gnuradio project..)

2017-03-03 Thread Nomen Nescio
Dr. Stallman said: > The fact that some other browsers have trouble is unfortunate. But > since our recommended free browser works ok, my conclusion is that > this doesn't rise to the level of an ethical problem. To be clear, I think you are speaking strictly in terms of free software ethics.

[no subject]

2017-03-03 Thread Nomen Nescio
Alfred M. Szmidt said: > There is no "denial of service" going on, This is yet another unsubstantiated position statement. The proof of the DoS has been posted several times now in a variety of circumstances. You've been told this 3 times before. Please stop with the empty position

Re: Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

2017-03-04 Thread Nomen Nescio
Svetlana Tkachenko said: > > > The software freedom principles apply to software only, not to > > > organisations. > > Principles (of any kind) are only endorsed or condemned by people > > and organizations. An object or data (software) cannot reason > > [...] > That's what authorship is for.

Re: Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

2017-03-04 Thread Nomen Nescio
Dr. Stallman said: > > > You have misunderstood freedom 0. Freedom 0 means the program > > > does not impose limits on how you are allowed to use it. > > > Whether it does what you want in any given situation is > > > another question. > > > You might want to change the language of

Re: Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

2017-03-11 Thread Nomen Nescio
Mike Gerwitz said: > >> In the early days of GNU, you'd request a physical copy via mail. > > > > That wasn't discriminatory. They didn't say liberals had to go > > through those hoops, while registered republicans could download > > it, for example. > > That's not a proper comparison. It's

GNU CDN? (was: CloudFlare, not good choice)

2017-03-11 Thread Nomen Nescio
Jean Louis said: > Each package may be copied to GNU and distributed in parallel from > GNU servers by GNU helpers and problem could be solved. We cannot forget that many projects have documentation outside of the distributed package; documentation that is official and served only from the

Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

2017-03-08 Thread Nomen Nescio
Dr. Stallman said: > It appears we are having a misunderstanding. I can't see anything > here that stops you from running GNU Radio however you wish. > Whatever gnuradio.org does is a separate issue > from using the program GNU Radio itself. It's in fact that separate issue that has been under

Re: gnuradio project DoS attacks GNU wget users

2017-03-01 Thread Nomen Nescio
Alfred M. Szmidt said: > Works for Me. > > ~ $ wget http://gnuradio.org/releases/gnuradio/gnuradio-3.7.10.1.tar.gz If you use wget in the manner required by CloudFlare, Inc. and GNU Radio Foundation, Inc., indeed there is no issue. But some of whome embrace freedom 0 don't want to be forced

Re: gnuradio project DoS attacks GNU wget users

2017-03-02 Thread Nomen Nescio
Alfred M. Szmidt said: > I suggest you go and visit the actual GNU Radio page, which is fully > usable in Lynx for example. You can also browse the manual directly > by building GNU radio. > > http://gnuradio.org/doc/doxygen/page_exploring_gnuradio.html You've obviously missed some posts.