[GNC-dev] alphavantage time out fix not obvious

2019-12-01 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
I can't find a bug and fix in the list for the alphavantage time out problem. It was certainly discussed here. Do I have to make a bug for it or hand roll again? -- Wm ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org

Re: [GNC-dev] OARS classification of gnucash

2019-08-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 22/08/2019 19:33, Geert Janssens wrote: Op donderdag 22 augustus 2019 19:50:38 CEST schreef John Ralls: On Aug 22, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Geert Janssens wrote: Gnome and Flathub use age rating data to classify applications as appropriate or not for certain groups of users. Both are using the

Re: [GNC-dev] owner-report, receivables-aging etc

2019-07-27 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 19/07/2019 09:56, Christopher Lam wrote: Wish to canvas opinion on what is considered best practice for the following real-data simulations, for rebuilding owner-report and aging-report. This illustrates current buggy behaviour. * I have a $100 customer invoice, posted- and due-dates 6 weeks

Re: [GNC-dev] Adding module to make GnuCash more valuable

2019-07-27 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 23/07/2019 18:18, John Ralls wrote: That would be *way* out of scope for GnuCash. The only effect on accounting is when the change in ownership of the inventory is booked. Deciding that is completely external to GnuCash, which doesn't even do cost accounting for WIP inventory. It might be

Re: [GNC-dev] Release Schedule

2019-05-28 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 25/05/2019 23:53, Christopher Lam wrote: Basically anyone who runs a custom .scm file. Once again you are saying custom without making it clear what you mean. For the sake of clarity, I do not think you, Christopher, are doing this with the intention of being unclear. Some people

Re: [GNC-dev] Release Schedule

2019-05-25 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/05/2019 04:07, Christopher Lam wrote: Hi John My plans for 4.0 will be - remove *all* deprecated exported functions and deprecated code paths - enable book-accounting-period preference I'd urge anyone with custom reports will observe the console or tracefile, and watch for any scheme

Re: [GNC-dev] Use trading accounts only for currency conversion

2019-05-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 05/05/2019 09:41, cicko wrote: As I've written in https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797227: I suspect that the purpose of the trading accounts was to account for the loss/gain in currency conversion (only). Your suspicion is incorrect. Not sure if applying the trading accounts for

[GNC-dev] buglist needs tidying

2019-04-03 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
I know I am not the favourite person here, however, some things need to be said. The "known issues" list at http://gnucash.org/news.phtml is a mess and needs tidying. There are a number of duplicate reports. They don't help anyone because each of the reporting individuals is left thinking

Re: [GNC-dev] libpsd2, opinions?

2019-03-30 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 22/03/2019 18:41, Marcello Stanisci wrote: Dear GnuCash devs, in the main context of the european directive PSD2 (that basically mandates all the banks to expose a REST API for everyone to use their online-banking services), I noticed that there is not yet a modern, well-documented,

Re: [GNC-dev] book-currency

2019-03-30 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 04/07/2018 03:34, John Ralls wrote: I think it was Alex that said: Today, in file->properties->Accounts tab, you can turn "trading accounts" on or off. At your peril. As far as I can tell they're either on or off, switching breaks stuff. I propose to change this to a selection of

Re: [GNC-dev] book-currency

2019-03-30 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 04/07/2018 01:12, Alex Aycinena wrote: Today, in file->properties->Accounts tab, you can turn "trading accounts" on or off. Not really, you either use them or you don't. I propose to change this to a selection of three alternatives: use trading accounts, specify a 'book currency', or

Re: [GNC-dev] book-currency

2019-03-30 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 02/07/2018 18:02, Alex Aycinena wrote: I put it there for a project I am working on (but have gotten delayed on). It is not dead code; however, allow me to remove it in the next week or so and I will re-apply it later when the project moves forward. It seems better to remove it since we

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-03-18 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 28/02/2019 00:04, David Cousens wrote: Wm Diagrams are up https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations. The wkiki markup is crude but works. I will try later to implement a scroll box to better accommodate narrow width monitors and mobile devices. Geert pointed out a few corrections

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-03-18 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 17:29, Geert Janssens wrote: Op zondag 24 februari 2019 16:23:24 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-devel: On 24/02/2019 01:06, David Carlson wrote: No, it is the name calling and digression from real subject matter. I had to do the name calling because no-one was paying attention

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-03-18 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 26/02/2019 08:28, David Cousens wrote: Wm and other interested parties To help alleviate the confusion over where user configuration information is located in V3.x cf v 2.6.x I have started adding some diagrams to illustrate the changes in locations that occurred which are hopefully a bit

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-03-18 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 26/02/2019 08:28, David Cousens wrote: Wm and other interested parties To help alleviate the confusion over where user configuration information is located in V3.x cf v 2.6.x I have started adding some diagrams to illustrate the changes in locations that occurred which are hopefully a bit

Re: [GNC-dev] Dormant Bugzilla Accounts

2019-03-16 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 05/02/2019 15:55, Derek Atkins wrote: All accounts that touched any GnuCash bug were migrated over. The ONLY user data migrated were email address and full name. The user account passwords were NOT migrated because password data is not accessible (which is a GOOD THING). So all those

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-03-16 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 16/03/2019 08:18, Colin Law wrote: I am taking from your lack of response as an indication of the fact that, having looked back at my posts, you have determined that I did not say anything that backs up your assertion. I now consider this matter closed. No, you should take my lack of

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-03-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 15:40, Colin Law wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 at 15:21, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote: That is the point, dear, you may not have said a swearword but what you are supporting is shameful. Please don't call me dear. That is almost as bad as labelling me a Trump supporter. I don't

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-03-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 07/03/2019 23:42, David Cousens wrote: I backup all user data including hidden directories on my hard disk to an NAS so no matter where it is I have it copied. I do full backups monthly with daily incrementals and usually retain them for 3 months these days. I off load the backups onto USB

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-03-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 08/03/2019 14:49, Derek Atkins wrote: Adrien Monteleone writes: Separating preferences for reports is, I suspect, more useful to a multi-user environment, which GnuCash does not support, but can be useful for a single user who keeps books for multiple entities that are all in the same

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-03-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 07/03/2019 20:03, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Derek, I don’t disagree with your assessments of what certainly *can* (and maybe even, more often than not) be specific to a book rather than a user. I was thinking more along the lines of what someone *might* most likely want to carry over

Re: [GNC-dev] Transactions vs Splits

2019-03-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 05/03/2019 12:57, David Cousens wrote: I will get to testing the import of these transactions either tomorrow morning or Thursday. I don't know yet whether it is possible to import them in the multiline format with 2 or more splits yet. Yes, it is possible but you have to be very careful

Re: [GNC-dev] budget.scm augmented to show ytd

2019-03-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 03/03/2019 12:14, Christopher Lam wrote: for augmented budget report, which computes accumulated budget amounts instead of periodic budget amounts. https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash/tree/maint-budget-refactor for the whole repo

[GNC-dev] balance sheet review

2019-03-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
balance-sheet.scm is a core accounting report in gnc, an essential in accounting as it allows the person presenting or viewing a report on a set of tx to show a full set of accounts or a subset. It generally does sums well. it is also core in that a number of other reports are built on top

Re: [GNC-dev] CSV Import Format

2019-03-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 01/03/2019 22:42, Geert Janssens wrote: Yes. The matcher should only be needed in the even more restricted case that no transfer account is set. In my experience the matcher is OK if you ignore it and understand the tx. You should just import it and fix it by hand, presuming the

Re: [GNC-dev] CSV Import Format

2019-03-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 01/03/2019 22:26, David Cousens wrote: Geert, I can feed you what I've done so far with the multiline, double currency transaction. My apologies for taking so long. My wife is a poet and I'm the publishing company these days. She handed me the latest book of poetry to edit and typeset for

Re: [GNC-dev] CSV Import Format

2019-03-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 01/03/2019 11:39, Geert Janssens wrote: I am aware multi-currency import is currently flawed. Having a detailed overview of what fails/what extra is needed will help a lot in setting this straight. Meneer, the import and multi currency are like the boy with his thumb in a dyke being asked

Re: [GNC-dev] BackupGnuCash updated for GnuCash V3

2019-02-28 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 27/02/2019 00:40, Chris Good wrote: Hi, I've updated my BackupGnuCash app to handle GnuCash V3 configuration files as well as V2. It can also backup the GnuCash Windows registry or the Linux dconf settings. The new BackupGnuCash version is 1.3.1. Please see: Linux:

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-27 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 01:50, Chris Good wrote: Chris, If I save reports from GnuCash 3.4 on Linux Mint Tara (Ubuntu 18.04), the reports are saved in /home//.local/share/gnucash/saved-reports-2.8 and I have verified this contains the report config which I saved. yay This is where I expected to find

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-27 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 25/02/2019 06:52, David Cousens wrote: I admit freely I do not have a clear understanding of how the reports (and much else inside GnuCash) do work in detail and I doubt if I am alone in that apart from maybe the core development team. You are expected to be the foil for those that do

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-27 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 17:18, Geert Janssens wrote: Op zondag 24 februari 2019 17:19:09 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-devel: Looks like you are now lying in public... (using your own conversation style here). Nothing gets deleted by the migration so there can't be data loss. We are talking well

Re: [GNC-dev] gnucash maint: Multiple changes pushed

2019-02-27 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 26/02/2019 11:56, Christopher Lam wrote: Hi Geert, Sharp eye indeed. I haven't used the new gnc:gui-error function because report.scm is being simulateously attacked: (1) refactoring in maint-scheme-progress (2) slowly creating nearly 100% coverage for tests (3) fixing an invalid code path

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 16:51, Geert Janssens wrote: Op zondag 24 februari 2019 12:54:35 CET schreef Wm via gnucash-devel: On 24/02/2019 02:25, David Cousens wrote: Wm, David, I appreciate your efforts as peacemaker, don't give up on all of us yet, most of us are trying to be good, promise :) If you

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 17:08, Geert Janssens wrote: You do like misinterpreting other peoples words to your benefit... Only if necessary. I have never seen you like this before. I never said it was a requirement to get gnc implemented on Windows. I said gnucash chose to better integrate with each

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 03:12, David Cousens wrote: Wm You could have a startup script which copied a common user config file for GnuCash from a backup or other central location to each users home directory and then copied it back on exit. On Linux the files would be those in the directories:

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 01:06, David Carlson wrote: No, it is the name calling and digression from real subject matter. I had to do the name calling because no-one was paying attention. I'd prefer it if I was listened to the first time, promise. -- Wm ___

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 09:19, Colin Law wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 at 23:28, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote: ... You, Colin Law, seem to be the sort of person that votes for Trump because you aren't bothered if a black women gets shot. I fail to see what I have done to be so vilely abused

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 08:44, Geert Janssens wrote: Yes, unfortunately this isn't very user friendly. I'm sure it can be improved. Again it requires someone with time available and coding experience to implement it. Not really, 2. was better than 3. in this regard; let's just go back is my

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 08:44, Geert Janssens wrote: Completely agree in today's context. There have been reasons in the past it was done as it is. If someone has spare time and epxerience I gladly accept patches to fix this technical debt. There was nothing to fix in this regard in gnc 2.x gnc 3.x

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 10:45, David T. via gnucash-devel wrote: Adrien, Using configuration files as a mechanism for working around the significant shortcomings of the reports ecosystem in Gnucash is tortured logic, at best. To be clear, I understand the challenges facing the team-- as well as accept

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 09:11, Geert Janssens wrote: Op zondag 24 februari 2019 05:05:21 CET schreef David Cousens: Adrien, You beat me to it. I was about to also suggest making it a user preference to be able to store the report configurations either with the book or as a user location. Then the user

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 04:05, David Cousens wrote: Adrien, You beat me to it. I was about to also suggest making it a user preference to be able to store the report configurations either with the book or as a user location. Then the user could choose what suits their circumstances and configuration.

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 03:44, Adrien Monteleone wrote: One might want the same configuration in many respects and the same options on various reports to be ’saved’ (since there is no other way to accomplish this task) as user configured defaults to be useful across various books. Some people have

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 02:53, David T. via gnucash-devel wrote: While I take exception to Wm's tone and language, I agree with his overall assessment of the reports and configuration management. I am happy to apologize to you if someone eventually takes notice. I will do this by paying for a meal

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-24 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 24/02/2019 02:25, David Cousens wrote: Wm, David, I appreciate your efforts as peacemaker, don't give up on all of us yet, most of us are trying to be good, promise :) If you draw a diagram from the information in the wiki page https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations where

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 23/02/2019 23:09, David Carlson wrote: Obviously this is not worth reading Why? it is all about people presuming placement of significant personal, charitable and corporate assets and getting it wrong. Why is that not worth reading? ___

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 23/02/2019 21:52, Colin Law wrote: I cannot understand why you keep using this software since it is so obviously horribly flawed and you have such a low opinion of the developers. I am sure you would be a much happier person if you used one of the many alternatives that are conveniently

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 23/02/2019 21:52, Colin Law wrote: I cannot understand why you keep using this software since it is so obviously horribly flawed and you have such a low opinion of the developers. I am sure you would be a much happier person if you used one of the many alternatives that are conveniently

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 23/02/2019 22:30, David Cousens wrote: Chris, If I save reports from GnuCash 3.4 on Linux Mint Tara (Ubuntu 18.04), the reports are saved in /home//.local/share/gnucash/saved-reports-2.8 and I have verified this contains the report config which I saved. This is where I expected to find them

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 23/02/2019 21:52, Colin Law wrote: I cannot understand why you keep using this software since it is so obviously horribly flawed and you have such a low opinion of the developers. I am sure you would be a much happier person if you used one of the many alternatives that are conveniently

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 10/02/2019 12:28, Geert Janssens wrote: FTR this code is not written by me. I'm merely reading how it currently works. good, because I am still angry at the plain stupidity regarding this implementation That aside, it will continue to work as long as the user uses a different name when

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 08/02/2019 09:04, Chris Good wrote: -Original Message- From: Geert Janssens Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2018 12:10 AM To: gnucash-devel@gnucash.org Cc: Chris Good Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux Op dinsdag 5 juni 2018 14:53:44 CEST schreef Chris Good: Hi, I'm working on my

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 05/06/2018 15:09, Geert Janssens wrote: If you override XDG_DATA_HOME the files will be searched for and saved in $XDG_DATA_HOME/gnucash/ However this can be overridden even with GNC_DATA_HOME. If that's set, gnucash will search and save in $GNC_DATA_HOME (which may or may not end in

Re: [GNC-dev] GnuCash 3 on Linux

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 05/06/2018 13:53, Chris Good wrote: Hi, Hello, Chris I'm working on my BackupGnuCash stand-alone app. I have 2 questions today: read https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations and weep at how bad things have become The last time i addressed this our idiots in charge were so

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data, a suggestion for discussion

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 02/02/2019 23:05, David Cousens wrote: I don't since I retired a few years ago, but I did for 8 years prior to retiring (and I used MYOB for the 10 years prior to that before escaping). I am certainly not alone. You could have a proviso that the script won't work for files using the business

Re: [GNC-dev] obfuscation script, windows/Perl SheBang

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 04/02/2019 17:03, Christian Stimming wrote: The script won't work on Windows anyway, at least not out of the box, because it not only needs a Perl installation including XML::DOM, but also some word list. On Linux this is available under /usr/share/dict/words (symlink to the default

Re: [GNC-dev] Perl SheBang

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 04/02/2019 15:32, John Ralls wrote: While we're on the topic of shebangs remember that they don't work on Windows. Remember too that running this obfuscate script on Windows will require the user to install perl. They might already have done so for Finance::Quote, but lots of users don't

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data, a suggestion for discussion

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 03/02/2019 04:10, David Carlson wrote: OK, I want to try https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/ObfuscateScript but I am not a computer programmer. I have no clue how to use it. Can someone help me? it is perl, if you have F::Q working you probably have enough kit to run it. -- Wm

Re: [GNC-dev] Deprecating ssh-dss keys on code

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 11/02/2019 21:32, Derek Atkins wrote: John Ralls writes: of dss keys appear to be owned by: asayed, chris, dvherman, hampton, jsled, linas, rolf, tomfray, wilddev, and myself. Derek, I think it makes more sense to remove the ids than to get new keys for any of those except you and maybe

Re: [GNC-dev] tb, gnc or me? my trial balance is wrong and I think it is gnc not me

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 10/02/2019 19:46, Alex Aycinena wrote: It is possible that Wm is noting a problem in gnucash that I'm trying to address with my 'Book Currency' enhancement (unfortunately, a bit delayed). I'm not antagonistic to your idea, Alex, just not sure I understand it. For most users who deal in a

Re: [GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark

2019-02-23 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
him understand how things are really handled. I am good at understanding, I say, again, you should try the user list. The dev list is different. Am 21.02.2019 um 15:51 schrieb Wm via gnucash-devel: On 20/02/2019 20:05, Christian Kluge wrote: Let me expand my example: Let’s say I’m doing

Re: [GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark

2019-02-21 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 12/02/2019 17:29, Alex Aycinena wrote: John - what you are saying is absolutely correct except for the part about working on it for three years. I did start it a while ago, but then other commitments have prevented me from working on it at all for a couple of years. The part you describe

Re: [GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark

2019-02-21 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 12/02/2019 17:29, Alex Aycinena wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: John Ralls To: Wm Cc: gnucash-de...@lists.gnucash.org Bcc: Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 20:48:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark On Feb 11, 2019, at 6:49 PM, Wm via

Re: [GNC-dev] Translation

2019-02-21 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 20/02/2019 16:03, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: I have also no problem with the Islamic perspective, which is the same as the medieval Christian view. I wasn't aware of that. Thank you for informing me. -- Wm ___ gnucash-devel mailing list

Re: [GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark

2019-02-21 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 20/02/2019 20:05, Christian Kluge wrote: Am 20.02.2019 um 14:09 schrieb Wm via gnucash-devel: On 17/02/2019 19:50, Christian Kluge wrote: I think this should be in user not devel It might be your so called valuation exercise, but it annoys me very much that Finance::Quote doesn’t fetch

Re: [GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark

2019-02-21 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 18/02/2019 06:43, David Cousens wrote: I must admit I don't use trading accounts much at present. I'll check out how they handle it. I like trading accounts, they make sense to me. If you don't do a lot of stuff outside of your home currency you probably needn't bother unless you are

Re: [GNC-dev] Translation

2019-02-20 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 20/02/2019 13:27, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: We always suggest to create at first and submit https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation#The_glossary_file which has also some explanation of the terms. While we got your fa.po, we never got a glossary/fa.po from you. I know you are using the

Re: [GNC-dev] ECB Daily Average Quotes

2019-02-20 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 18/02/2019 21:15, John Ralls wrote: On Feb 18, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: Yes https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/policy_and_exchange_rates/euro_reference_exchange_rates/html/index.en.html offers also several download formats Including an XML one, so it would be

Re: [GNC-dev] ECB Daily Average Quotes

2019-02-20 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 18/02/2019 15:01, John Ralls wrote: On Feb 17, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Christian Kluge wrote: It might be your so called valuation exercise, but it annoys me very much that Finance::Quote doesn’t fetch the daily average quotes from the ECB yet. Are they published on a website somewhere in a

Re: [GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark

2019-02-20 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 18/02/2019 19:15, Christian Kluge wrote: There is one exception to this being VAT calculation. Sect 16 Par 6 of the German VAT act stats that foreign currency amounts should be converted with the monthly ECB averages or the actual daily rates.

Re: [GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark

2019-02-20 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 17/02/2019 19:50, Christian Kluge wrote: Am 17.02.2019 um 19:58 schrieb Wm via gnucash-devel: On 15/02/2019 01:44, David Cousens wrote: If I start in Savings RUB , select the Savings EUR account and enter 100 it is assumed to be in RUB not EUR as GnuCash operates at present. This is clear

Re: [GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark

2019-02-20 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 15/02/2019 01:44, David Cousens wrote: I haven't read all the recent list replies yet but I think this sort of thing If the book currency is USD (or AUD or any other third currency) then the currency conversion becomes EUR<->USD<->RUB. The double conversions involved to the EUR and RUB

Re: [GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark

2019-02-17 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 15/02/2019 01:44, David Cousens wrote: Wm, My apologies for being long winded in the following, but I think it is necessary to achieve clarity in what is proposed or intended. Not at all, I appreciate your effort and have read what you have written more than once. The "book currency"

Re: [GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark

2019-02-14 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 12/02/2019 04:48, John Ralls wrote: On Feb 11, 2019, at 6:49 PM, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote: at the risk of appearing to be an imperialist, what is "book currency" ? I think of "home currency" as whatever currency most people close to you (the reader) use to b

[GNC-dev] book currency is what ... question mark

2019-02-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
at the risk of appearing to be an imperialist, what is "book currency" ? I think of "home currency" as whatever currency most people close to you (the reader) use to buy and sell ordinary stuff like carbohydrate staples (rice, bread, etc) and water in the UK that is GBP, in the USA it is

Re: [GNC-dev] tb, gnc or me? my trial balance is wrong and I think it is gnc not me

2019-02-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 11/02/2019 17:30, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Please tell me the intent is to *add* the book currency value, not replace the actual currency value. Our USA friends are still thinking about what a TB is for. I would hope that the actual currency transaction data would still be available. >

Re: [GNC-dev] tb, gnc or me? my trial balance is wrong and I think it is gnc not me

2019-02-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 11/02/2019 04:03, David Carlson wrote: Wm, before you run off at the mouth with all your innuendos, look at facts. I'm hoping you get a message from Liz If you don't there is something rotten in this list's administration. Did you try running a test on one of your backups from around

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing/obfuscating live data

2019-02-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 04/02/2019 08:40, Christian Stimming wrote: In a real data file there are still more places with text that need to be modified, e.g. the scheduled transaction templates, bayes import matching, and such. Also, the dates are left unmodified which may or may not be a problem. Stripping out

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data, a suggestion for discussion

2019-02-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 03/02/2019 16:03, John Ralls wrote: On Feb 2, 2019, at 8:10 PM, David Carlson wrote: OK, I want to try https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/ObfuscateScript but I am not a computer programmer. I have no clue how to use it. Can someone help me? Run it from a command line using perl, assuming

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data, a suggestion for discussion

2019-02-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 03/02/2019 02:01, David Cousens wrote: As Geert pointed out whole of program testing is very difficult and rapidly reaches a situation where complexity is equal to or greater than the program complexity and this is really what gave rise to unit testing where you test individual components

Re: [GNC-dev] tb, gnc or me? my trial balance is wrong and I think it is gnc not me

2019-02-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 09/02/2019 13:03, D via gnucash-devel wrote: That sounds to me like it's using a different exchange rate from one day to another, and I'd agree with your assessment in that case. I would have thought that the exchange rate in the transaction would be used. You are correct. I have an

Re: [GNC-dev] tb, gnc or me? my trial balance is wrong and I think it is gnc not me

2019-02-11 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 10/02/2019 22:52, David Carlson wrote: Wm, Where does unrealized income fall into tb if there is no price in the database on the closing date for one or more security or currency accounts because it was not sold? Essentially it doesn't occur, it is just a number of something if you aren't

Re: [GNC-dev] Further feedback

2019-02-10 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 09/02/2019 04:05, Christopher Lam wrote: Well I've been schooled. Please refresh and try again. The headers should match the desired report *post* reconciliation. The transactions reported are: uncleared, cleared, and reconciliation whereby split-reconciliation-date = account's

Re: [GNC-dev] tb, gnc or me? my trial balance is wrong and I think it is gnc not me

2019-02-10 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 10/02/2019 12:40, David Carlson wrote: Lets all step back a second and consider what the report is supposed to show before deciding whether it is always correct. I think the report is conceptually broken. The report is supposed to cover all of the assets and liabilities that were selected

Re: [GNC-dev] tb, gnc or me? my trial balance is wrong and I think it is gnc not me

2019-02-10 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 10/02/2019 16:54, John Ralls wrote: The "Average Cost" price source creates a price based on the actual transaction prices and is designed for the TB report, see the thread beginning with https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2008-July/023297.html. I broke it for 2.6.13-2.6.21,

Re: [GNC-dev] tb, gnc or me? my trial balance is wrong and I think it is gnc not me

2019-02-10 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 10/02/2019 09:14, Geert Janssens wrote: Op zondag 10 februari 2019 09:56:51 CET schreef Adrien Monteleone: I’m in agreement on that note. I understand why someone who doesn’t close books would like a report that shows a current position. But the Trial Balance report is really only useful for

Re: [GNC-dev] tb, gnc or me? my trial balance is wrong and I think it is gnc not me

2019-02-09 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 09/02/2019 07:00, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote: Background: My gnc TB has been wrong for years.  This hasn't been a problem for me because I can do my own TB in sql and satisfy myself all is relatively well with my accounts.  Over the last week or so I decided to try again and I think the gnc

Re: [GNC-dev] tb, gnc or me? my trial balance is wrong and I think it is gnc not me

2019-02-09 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 09/02/2019 07:00, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote: Background: My gnc TB has been wrong for years.  This hasn't been a problem for me because I can do my own TB in sql and satisfy myself all is relatively well with my accounts.  Over the last week or so I decided to try again and I think the gnc

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data

2019-02-09 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 02/02/2019 18:00, John Ralls wrote: So maybe we should just forget it and continue the practice of asking users to send their account files directly to a developer with the promise of confidentiality if they're unable to reproduce the bug in a test file. That's what I'm thinking. No

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data

2019-02-09 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 02/02/2019 17:44, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, Feb 02, 2019 at 04:30:30PM +0100, Geert Janssens wrote: Op zaterdag 2 februari 2019 14:31:43 CET schreef Hendrik Boom: On 2/1/19 5:36 AM, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote: [2] as long as the transaction stream balances the actual numbers don't matter

[GNC-dev] tb, gnc or me? my trial balance is wrong and I think it is gnc not me

2019-02-08 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
Background: My gnc TB has been wrong for years. This hasn't been a problem for me because I can do my own TB in sql and satisfy myself all is relatively well with my accounts. Over the last week or so I decided to try again and I think the gnc TB report is b0rked. Looking at the bug list,

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data, a suggestion for discussion

2019-02-02 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 02/02/2019 15:24, Geert Janssens wrote: Yes, if you use business features, you may have entered business identifying data in File->Properties. It think that's what David is referring to. I agree, the third party should not be identified. Similarly there may be customer and vendor data

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data

2019-02-02 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 02/02/2019 13:31, Hendrik Boom wrote: On 2/1/19 5:36 AM, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote: [2] as long as the transaction stream balances the actual numbers don't matter (their will be occasions where the numbers are important but these tend to be number extremes related to commodities rather

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data, a suggestion for discussion

2019-02-02 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 02/02/2019 16:11, Geert Janssens wrote: But I don't know how feasible it is to effectively obfuscate that data withoug resorting to a complex script The script will be seen by others that do understand sql before anyone innocent gets to use it, promise. If the script is well documented

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data, a suggestion for discussion

2019-02-02 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 02/02/2019 15:40, David Carlson wrote: Wouldn't it be simpler to create a library of template files designed to exercise various features that a user could find one to illustrate his concern? To some extent this is already done in the build process. Life always throws up something

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data, a suggestion for discussion

2019-02-02 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 02/02/2019 09:59, Colin Law wrote: Can all users save files as sqlite? Does that need anything extra installed on the OS side that may not be there? Also what about different builds of GC, do they all have sqlite? I'm fairly sure all of the official builds can save SQLite. If someone is

Re: [GNC-dev] Pie Chart

2019-02-02 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 29/01/2019 18:12, stephen.m.butler51 wrote: My first problem is figuring why my compile script stopped working.   I was out most of yesterday and out most of today. Yes, the first round didn't show any anomalies. Why the Trump do you think anyone is interested in your day to day movements

Re: [GNC-dev] Pie Chart

2019-02-02 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 01/02/2019 16:05, David Carlson wrote: Wm, you are at it again. We need to help your tiny brain. Liz! Help! the bad people are talking amongst themselves! FFS, grow up dullard. ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org

Re: [GNC-dev] Normalizing live data, a suggestion for discussion

2019-02-02 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 02/02/2019 00:16, David Cousens wrote: As well as the account names you might also want to munge data in the description/memo fields. This can contain identifying information for customers/vendors. How about we just zap the stuff in description/memo fields by default? They're not

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