Re: Non-commiter github workflow

2012-08-22 Thread reubano

Yawar Amin wrote
 
 Hi John,
 
 On 2012-08-21, at 12:41, John Ralls lt;jralls@gt; wrote:
 
 I'm not sure that we want to encourage people to publish their forks on
 Github, or anywhere else.
 
 I don't see the harm, as long as the website makes clear that
 Gnucash/gnucash is the main repo.
 
 Accounting software isn't a domain where fast-and-loose development is a
 good idea.
 
 Neither is an OS kernel ;-)
 
 Best,
 
 Yawar
 

I thought one goal of hosting on github was to encourage more developers to
contribute. If so, why would we want to discourage forking and thus
discourage more contribution? As long as contributors know they need to send
patch files instead of pull requests, I don't see the harm either.


John Ralls-2 wrote
 
 On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Yawar Amin lt;yawar.amin@gt; wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 On 2012-08-21, at 12:41, John Ralls lt;jralls@gt; wrote:
 
 I'm not sure that we want to encourage people to publish their forks on
 Github, or anywhere else.
 
 I don't see the harm, as long as the website makes clear that
 Gnucash/gnucash is the main repo.
 
 Accounting software isn't a domain where fast-and-loose development is a
 good idea.
 
 Neither is an OS kernel ;-)
 
 Yup, and Torvalds doesn't accept pull requests via Github either [1].
 
 Regards,
 John Ralls
 
 [1] https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/7#issuecomment-2005630
 

Correct, but I haven't seen anywhere where he asks people not to fork his
github repo. 



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Re: Non-commiter github workflow

2012-08-22 Thread reubano

John Ralls-2 wrote
 
 On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:01 AM, reubano lt;reubano@gt; wrote:
 
 I propose the current git wiki[1] be edited. Right now it says If you
 have a
 Github account, it turns out that Github's fork feature doesn't play
 well
 with the Gnucash repository because of its unusual structure (which in
 turn
 is needed to synch it with subversion). This doesn't make it clear that
 forking is ok in some circumstances.[2]
 
 And if I'm understanding things, I should be able to:
fork
clone (my personal fork)
 
 git remote add gc git://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash.git #See
 https://help.github.com/articles/syncing-a-fork
 
git branch -t master refs/remotes/origin/trunk
git branch working
write code
 
 make  make check  # Don't commit broken code
 git commit -a  # Git won't let you do
 anything until you commit your tree
 git checkout master
 git pull remotes/gc/trunk # Otherwise the next step won't
 do anything
 
git rebase master working
 
 git format-patch master   # Git format-patch needs a
 starting ref for format-patch
 
git push -u origin master
  ...
 
 Is this correct?
 
 Almost.  I've added/changed some steps. Note that the github doc I reffed
 above uses git fetch and git merge separately; git pull does both steps at
 once.

Ok, so for completeness this should be the full set of steps
fork
clone # Clone personal fork for offline development
git remote add gc git://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash.git #See
https://help.github.com/articles/syncing-a-fork
git branch -t master refs/remotes/origin/trunk
git branch working
write code
make  make check# Don't commit broken code
git commit -a# Git won't let you do anything
until you commit your tree
git checkout master
git pull remotes/gc/trunk   # Otherwise the next step won't do
anything
git rebase master working
git format-patch master # Git format-patch needs a starting ref
for format-patch
git push -u origin master

John Ralls-2 wrote
 
 On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:01 AM, reubano lt;reubano@gt; wrote:
  
 My suggestion is to have 'Basic (GitHub) Set-Up' and 'Advance (Non
 GitHub)
 Set-Up' sections to accommodate the cloning differences, i.e.,
git clone git://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash.git
git remote add myname-github remote server:myname/gnucash.git
 
 Huh? You shouldn't clone Gnucash/gnucash.git and then push back to a new
 github repo: That new repo's title won't show that it's forked from
 Gnucash/gnucash and  the Network stuff won't work.

I agree that you should need to clone Gnucash/gnucash.git but I was just
repeating the wiki instructions[1] 


wiki wrote
 
 Just clone the repository as usual:
 
 git clone git://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash.git
 
 snip
 
 Instead, create a repository in your account (you can name it whatever you
 like, but calling it Gnucash is likely to minimize confusion), then clone
 the Gnucash/gnucash repository on your local computer. Add your Github
 Gnucash repo as a remote
 
 git remote add myname-github g...@github.com:myname/gnucash.git

[1] http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git#Non-Committers

At any rate, I think it is a moot point if we recommend forking and just
remove this step altogether.


John Ralls-2 wrote
 
 On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:01 AM, reubano lt;reubano@gt; wrote:
 
 vs
fork
git clone https://github.com/user/gnucash.git (just list HTTPS
 assuming
 those who want SSH will already know how to do it)
 
 And then have a 'Contributing Code' section beginning with branching
 instructions. *OR* to make it even simpler, just list everything for a
 GitHub setup first and at the end add a note for those who don't use
 GitHub
 to clone and 'git remote add'.
 
 You seem not to have grokked that we're not really interested in
 integrating with Github's way of doing things, setting aside that they
 keep changing it. For example, the *last* time I looked, you could sync a
 fork from the website, which is what didn't play well with the git-svn
 bridge. That's gone and you have to do it locally as described above. I'm
 not sure that we want to encourage people to publish their forks on
 Github, or anywhere else. Accounting software isn't a domain where
 fast-and-loose development is a good idea.

I understand that there is no intention on integrating with github pull
requests and issues. What I am concerned about is making it easy for
developers to contribute. In support of this, I think forking and following
the steps above provides that.




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Re: Non-commiter github workflow

2012-08-21 Thread Yawar Amin
Hi John,

On 2012-08-21, at 12:41, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:

 I'm not sure that we want to encourage people to publish their forks on 
 Github, or anywhere else.

I don't see the harm, as long as the website makes clear that Gnucash/gnucash 
is the main repo.

 Accounting software isn't a domain where fast-and-loose development is a good 
 idea.

Neither is an OS kernel ;-)

Best,

Yawar

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Re: Non-commiter github workflow

2012-08-21 Thread John Ralls

On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Yawar Amin yawar.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi John,
 
 On 2012-08-21, at 12:41, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
 
 I'm not sure that we want to encourage people to publish their forks on 
 Github, or anywhere else.
 
 I don't see the harm, as long as the website makes clear that Gnucash/gnucash 
 is the main repo.
 
 Accounting software isn't a domain where fast-and-loose development is a 
 good idea.
 
 Neither is an OS kernel ;-)

Yup, and Torvalds doesn't accept pull requests via Github either [1].

Regards,
John Ralls

[1] https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/7#issuecomment-2005630



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Re: Non-commiter github workflow

2012-08-21 Thread Yawar Amin


On 2012-08-21, at 13:56, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:

 Accounting software isn't a domain where fast-and-loose development is a 
 good idea.
 
 Neither is an OS kernel ;-)
 
 Yup, and Torvalds doesn't accept pull requests via Github either [1].

Granted, I wouldn't want to use pull requests either to get stuff into the main 
repo. My point was that people can collaborate amongst themselves using pull 
requests without harm, and finally submit patches or git merge requests to 
GnuCash.

Best,

Yawar
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