Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-07 Thread Steve Cohen
On 2/5/19 3:42 PM, Colin Law wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 21:20, Steve Cohen > wrote: ... Getting rid of this file ~/.config/gtk-3.0.gtk.css which I had created and restarting the system got me back the awful scroll bar behavior I had instantly hated a

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-07 Thread Steve Cohen
On 2/7/19 2:11 AM, Liz wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:21:35 -0500 (EST) Robert Heller wrote: *Part* of what is going on is the whole "touch screen" mania, coupled with a bitofscroll-wheelmania.ManyUI people (the ones making design choices for thevariouswidgetlibraries,includingGTK3), seem to f

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-07 Thread Liz
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 17:21:35 -0500 (EST) Robert Heller wrote: > > *Part* of what is going on is the whole "touch screen" mania, coupled > with a bitofscroll-wheelmania.ManyUI people (the ones making design > choices for thevariouswidgetlibraries,includingGTK3), seem to feel > that nobody really

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Steve Cohen
On 2/5/19 4:21 PM, Robert Heller wrote: *Part* of what is going on is the whole "touch screen" mania, coupled with a bitofscroll-wheelmania.ManyUI people (the ones making design choices for thevariouswidgetlibraries,includingGTK3), seem to feel that nobody really is (should?) be using their mic

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Geert Janssens
Op dinsdag 5 februari 2019 22:10:52 CET schreef Jack Slater: > I have! Hate it. Will it be fixed? That's gtk decision, not a gnucash one. However you can change it on your system if you like: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GTK3#Scrollbars Regards, Geert

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:08:37 -0600 David Carlson wrote: > > I was not trying to assign any blame or credit for the new scrollbars. > IIRC I first saw one in a GTK3 application, and I was definitely upset by > not having a page up page down function on my mouse. If you have not seen > that yet,

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Steve Cohen
On 2/5/19 3:42 PM, Colin Law wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 21:20, Steve Cohen > wrote: ... Getting rid of this file ~/.config/gtk-3.0.gtk.css which I had created and restarting the system got me back the awful scroll bar behavior I had instantly hated a

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Colin Law
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 21:20, Steve Cohen wrote: > ... > Getting rid of this file ~/.config/gtk-3.0.gtk.css which I had created > and restarting the system got me back the awful scroll bar behavior I > had instantly hated as soon as I installed 18.04. > The bars are much improved on Ubuntu 18.10,

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Steve Cohen
On 2/5/19 3:02 PM, Colin Law wrote: On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 20:17, Steve Cohen > wrote: On 2/5/19 2:04 PM, David Carlson wrote: > GTK3 as default rather than GTK2.  I think those scroll bars first > appeared there but they seem to be becoming as fashionabl

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Steve Cohen
On 2/5/19 2:37 PM, David Carlson wrote: Ok, I was traveling last week and it seems like motels are switching to bathroom sinks that sit on top of the counter, with plumbing that looks like the old fashioned hand water pump and bowl arrangement, thus are automatically 8 " higher and further back

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Jack Slater
I have! Hate it. Will it be fixed? On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 3:09 PM David Carlson wrote: > I was not trying to assign any blame or credit for the new scrollbars. > IIRC I first saw one in a GTK3 application, and I was definitely upset by > not having a page up page down function on my mouse. If y

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread David Carlson
I was not trying to assign any blame or credit for the new scrollbars. IIRC I first saw one in a GTK3 application, and I was definitely upset by not having a page up page down function on my mouse. If you have not seen that yet, you eventually will. David Carlson On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 3:02 PM C

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Colin Law
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 20:17, Steve Cohen wrote: > On 2/5/19 2:04 PM, David Carlson wrote: > > GTK3 as default rather than GTK2. I think those scroll bars first > > appeared there but they seem to be becoming as fashionable as useless > > 'antique' bathroom sinks. > > > > While I appreciate and t

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread David Carlson
Ok, I was traveling last week and it seems like motels are switching to bathroom sinks that sit on top of the counter, with plumbing that looks like the old fashioned hand water pump and bowl arrangement, thus are automatically 8 " higher and further back, leaving no room for toothbrush charger, ha

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Steve Cohen
On 2/5/19 2:04 PM, David Carlson wrote: GTK3 as default rather than GTK2.  I think those scroll bars first appeared there but they seem to be becoming as fashionable as useless 'antique' bathroom sinks. While I appreciate and think I agree with the thrust of your comment, I'm not actually u

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread David Carlson
If you are using release 18.04 the default desktop was switched from Unity to Gnome and that Gnome probably uses GTK3 as default rather than GTK2. I think those scroll bars first appeared there but they seem to be becoming as fashionable as useless 'antique' bathroom sinks. David Carlson On Tue,

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Geert Janssens
Op dinsdag 5 februari 2019 20:45:55 CET schreef Steve Cohen: > I fear that the main thread of this issue has been lost due to the > irrelevant side issue raised about Windows. > > Below is the latest real message in this thread (in response to Colin Law): > > I was surprised to see 3.900 myself b

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Steve Cohen
I fear that the main thread of this issue has been lost due to the irrelevant side issue raised about Windows. Below is the latest real message in this thread (in response to Colin Law): I was surprised to see 3.900 myself but that's what the About screen tells me: Version: 3.900 Build ID: git

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Bucky Carr
Then don't try to be so nice.  From your OP: "When I click in the scroller and move my mouse, whenever the mouse leaves the scroll bar area the display snaps back to where it was before the scroll operation.  I initially tried to carefully keep the mouse within the scroll bar area, and that d

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Steve Cohen
I'm trying to be nice but you're making it hard. I have never experienced such behavior in Windows or in Linux except with Gnucash. I don't know what you're experiencing but it's not what I am experiencing. Your input is less than helpful here. On 2/5/19 11:43 AM, Bucky Carr wrote: I just

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Bucky Carr
I just tried it with MS Excel (Win10) and it behaves exactly as you describe with your GNUcash-in-Linux experience. So it is not uncommon. But it is annoying. On 2/5/2019 10:38 AM, Steve Cohen wrote: On 2/5/19 11:33 AM, Bucky Carr wrote: Well, I am not using the Windows version and this be

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Steve Cohen
On 2/5/19 11:33 AM, Bucky Carr wrote: Well, I am not using the Windows version and this behavior is unlike anything I ever saw when I did use Windows. Isn't GNUcash a Windows program? :) The OP said that "other programs don't do this". I was pointing out that the observed behavior is eviden

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Bucky Carr
Isn't GNUcash a Windows program? :) The OP said that "other programs don't do this". I was pointing out that the observed behavior is evident in other programs as well, and I just happened to mention the "other programs" are Windows programs, too, just like GNUcash is a Windows (and other pla

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Steve Cohen
I was surprised to see 3.900 myself but that's what the About screen tells me: Version: 3.900 Build ID: git 3.1-100-geb67baba5+ (2018-06-03) Finance::Quote: 1.47 I am running the standard gnome version of Ubuntu with the exception of a change I made to get a wider scrollbar per: https://askub

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Colin Law
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 17:22, Bucky Carr wrote: > > > I've noticed that exact behavior in many other Windows programs as > well. Definitely annoying. > We are not talking about Windows programs are we? Colin > > > On 2/5/2019 9:53 AM, Steve Cohen wrote: > > For two years something seemed not q

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Bucky Carr
I've noticed that exact behavior in many other Windows programs as well. Definitely annoying. On 2/5/2019 9:53 AM, Steve Cohen wrote: For two years something seemed not quite right about the use of scroll bars in Gnucash register windows, but I always just "lived with it" in a state of vag

Re: [GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Colin Law
I am not seeing any problems on Ubuntu 18.10 running GC 3.4. Confused by the fact you say you are running 3.900 as I think 3.4 is the latest. Are you running the standard (Gnome) version of Ubuntu? Are you using X or Wayland? That should be selectable from logon screen. I am running X. Colin

[GNC] "Non-sticky" scroll bars in gnucash registers

2019-02-05 Thread Steve Cohen
For two years something seemed not quite right about the use of scroll bars in Gnucash register windows, but I always just "lived with it" in a state of vague , not quite conscious annoyance. I have finally put my finger on the problem. When I click in the scroller and move my mouse, whenever