Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-19 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 6/19/19 12:21 AM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: > Follow up: > > Good Lord you guys are patient and gracious.  I can > be thick as a stone at times. > > I am now using the feature with confidence.  Thank > you! > > -T Yahoo!!  <> -- Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-19 Thread Maf. King
On Wednesday, 19 June 2019 08:21:08 BST ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: > Follow up: > > Good Lord you guys are patient and gracious. I can > be thick as a stone at times. > > I am now using the feature with confidence. Thank > you! > > -T Glad you had the patience too! it can be hard

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-19 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
Follow up: Good Lord you guys are patient and gracious. I can be thick as a stone at times. I am now using the feature with confidence. Thank you! -T ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-19 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/19/19 12:16 AM, Colin Law wrote: On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 00:56, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: ... So basically, I need t wait for my next statement to come to "c" the charges that did not make it on the current statement. So reconcile will always be a month behind. I think you

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-19 Thread Colin Law
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 00:56, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: > ... > So basically, I need t wait for my next statement to come to "c" the > charges that did not make it on the current statement. So reconcile > will always be a month behind. I think you may be misunderstanding what the

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
If you ARE balanced (‘Difference’ = $0.00) then you don’t *need* to ‘balance’ anything, you need to `Finish` the reconciliation. I know you are averse to it, but reading the manual would have saved you and everyone else lots of time and confusion. Heck, just hovering over the button and

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 7:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > >> Long delivery times make tracking charges/clearings more cumbersome, but not >> impossible. Reconciliation isn’t concerned with that though. >> The *purpose* of reconciliation is not to reconcile the transactions,

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 5:05 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:58 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: 2) use Balance with the starting date of my current statement, so a month behind. No, no, no, no. Do *NOT* use the balance button unless the ‘Difference’ is something OTHER

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 6/18/19 4:50 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: > On 6/18/19 4:43 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: > > I can user the thing in the lower right corner.  Other > wise I have to wait from the next statement to arrive to > reconcile those that did not make it to the current statement. And that is

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 5:07 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: It isn’t adding it without you telling it to, which you are doing when you click the `Balance` button when you should not be, because you are already balanced. Oh It was a surprise the first time. Now I expect and avoid it. Bozo's account gets a

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 5:00 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: To add on one more tidbit for an anticipated question: What ??? Me??? I realize I can be thick as a rock at times. It isn’t very likely that a charge will take more than 24 hours to settle. (business sales charged on delivery with long lead

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 7:02 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > On 6/18/19 4:56 PM, Maf. King wrote: >> I'm slightly confused as to why dispatch dates matter in an accounting >> program. It almost sounds like you are trying to use the reconcile workflow >> for something that is

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:58 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > > >> It is not adding spurious transactions. Certainly not on its own. > > It is adding what I did not check off as being on the statement. > GRRR It isn’t adding it without you telling it to, which you are

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:58 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > > > 2) use Balance with the starting date of my current > statement, so a month behind. > No, no, no, no. Do *NOT* use the balance button unless the ‘Difference’ is something OTHER THAN $0.00 after checking off all

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 4:56 PM, Maf. King wrote: I'm slightly confused as to why dispatch dates matter in an accounting program. It almost sounds like you are trying to use the reconcile workflow for something that is not. Just trying to get everything inside the balance date. I do not use the "balance"

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
To add on one more tidbit for an anticipated question: It isn’t very likely that a charge will take more than 24 hours to settle. (business sales charged on delivery with long lead times would be different of course) You might have a few that will be charged at the end of one period and not

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 4:36 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Adrian, If it add spurious entries for translations that have not passed during the date periods I am checking, it is useless. It would only work if I altered all my charge dates to their actual post date. That I DO NOT WANT. The box in the

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Maf. King
On Wednesday, 19 June 2019 00:47:26 BST ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: > On 6/18/19 4:27 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > >> wrote:>> > >> On 6/18/19 3:41 AM, Maf. King wrote: > >>> Things these days are generally much more

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
YES! That’s how it works. Unless you want to verify it online, then you can ‘c’ them earlier and likely just enter an ending balance and then click `Finish` when the statement comes in. (maybe check off a few cleared items in the interim to make sure you balance) But that really isn’t a ‘month

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 4:43 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: What Adrian said. Once you understand this, then reconciliation will make perfect sense, and you will never, ever press the "balance" button (where that extra transaction you don't want came from) again. Ron Apologies, Adrien. You were the victim of

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Thanks. I suspected as much, and it usually doesn’t bother me. But it has only happened on very rare occasion, except one particular user who just doesn’t bother to either notice, or fix it. Regards, Adrien > On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Ronal B Morse wrote: > >> What Adrian said. Once you

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 4:27 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: On 6/18/19 3:41 AM, Maf. King wrote: Things these days are generally much more instant, although sometimes not as instant as we might like. HTH, Maf Not really. By law,

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Ronal B Morse
> What Adrian said. Once you understand this, then > reconciliation will make perfect sense, and you will never, > ever press the "balance" button (where that extra > transaction > you don't want came from) again. > > Ron > Apologies, Adrien. You were the victim of an apparent auto- correct

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Ronal B Morse
On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 18:27 -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > > You shouldn’t need to enter a balancing transaction unless > you aren’t balanced. And if you need to enter it, you > *must* check it off (either via ‘c’ in the register or the > checkbox in the reconciliation window) in order to

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> Adrian, > > If it add spurious entries for translations that have not passed > during the date periods I am checking, it is useless. It would > only work if I altered all my charge dates to their actual > post date. That I DO NOT WANT. > > The box in the lower right corner of the reconcile

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > On 6/18/19 3:41 AM, Maf. King wrote: >> Things these days are generally much more instant, although sometimes not as >> instant as we might like. >> HTH, >> Maf > > Not really. > > By law, folks that take credit crds

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 4:20 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:04 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: On 6/18/19 3:43 AM, Maf. King wrote: Yep, the Balance button will insert a transaction into your account to make it balance with the statement finishing total. It's effectively

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:04 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user > wrote: > > On 6/18/19 3:43 AM, Maf. King wrote: >> Yep, the Balance button will insert a transaction into your account to make >> it >> balance with the statement finishing total. It's effectively a short cut >> when >> you

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 3:41 AM, Maf. King wrote: Things these days are generally much more instant, although sometimes not as instant as we might like. HTH, Maf Not really. By law, folks that take credit crds in the USA are not allowed to charge you until the item ships or gets processed. Sometimes

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 3:43 AM, Maf. King wrote: Yep, the Balance button will insert a transaction into your account to make it balance with the statement finishing total. It's effectively a short cut when you can't be bothered to keep careful track of all your txns. Maf. Here is the rub. The date I

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Maf. King
Yep, the Balance button will insert a transaction into your account to make it balance with the statement finishing total. It's effectively a short cut when you can't be bothered to keep careful track of all your txns. Maf. On Tuesday, 18 June 2019 10:43:19 BST ToddAndMargo via

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Maf. King
On Tuesday, 18 June 2019 10:45:17 BST ToddAndMargo wrote: > On 6/18/19 1:54 AM, Maf. King wrote: > > Finish will be greyed out until you get the "difference" to 0 > > > 7 is what it suppose to ber! > No it isn't. the £7 is either on you bank statement or is not (yet, because the bank

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 1:54 AM, Maf. King wrote: Finish will be greyed out until you get the "difference" to 0 7 is what it suppose to ber! It is not checked off! ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/18/19 1:53 AM, David T. wrote: Michael, I believe that ToddAndMargo clicked the "Reconcile" button in the reconcile window, which is designed to create a balancing entry when your reconciling doesn't work. ToddAndMargo, Michael's suggestion to click the "Finish" button

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread Maf. King
On Tuesday, 18 June 2019 08:11:45 BST ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: > On 6/17/19 11:47 PM, Michael Hendry wrote: > > When you have checked the relevant entries in the reconciliation window > > (as in your third screenshot), you’ll get a difference of $0.00. > > > > Now click on the

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Michael, I believe that ToddAndMargo clicked the "Reconcile" button in the reconcile window, which is designed to create a balancing entry when your reconciling doesn't work.  ToddAndMargo, Michael's suggestion to click the "Finish" button might be more successful for you.  David T. On

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/17/19 11:47 PM, Michael Hendry wrote: When you have checked the relevant entries in the reconciliation window (as in your third screenshot), you’ll get a difference of $0.00. Now click on the “Finish” button, and the process will be complete, with the transactions you have checked now

Re: [GNC] I just don't understand reconciliation

2019-06-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 6/17/19 11:47 PM, Michael Hendry wrote: Gnucash is calculating the ending balance “believing" that the $7 charge would have hit your credit card, but your imaginary credit card statement would have omitted it, leaving an ending balance of $135. You need to enter $135 in the Reconcile