Re: [GNC] Color of register placeholder text and hiding register header

2022-09-12 Thread Glenn Fowler
Thanks Adrien that is getting a little closer. Just leaving this here for
others.

1. I tried reordering but it had no effect.
2. Defining a color for 'register_cursor_fg_color' and
'register_cursor_color' didn't change anything.
3. '@define-color register_cursor_bg_color' is the same as background-color
for '*.gnc-class-register-cursor' but it DOESN'T override the cell
highlighting in 'gnc-id-cursor entry'.

So there must be a '@define-color xx' which is the same as color for
'*.gnc-class-register-cursor' (which is the placeholder text color). That
class still overrides.
Confusing. I sure couldn't make themes all day.



On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 5:18 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> On 9/11/22 1:16 PM, Glenn Fowler wrote:
> > I found this will change the input text color:
> >
> > gnc-id-cursor entry {
> >color: green;
> > }
> >
> > ...and it works but it gets overridden whenever you change
> > *.gnc-class-register-cursor color but not sure why.
>
> Not sure either, maybe reverse them in the file? (this is Cascading
> Style Sheets after all) It could also be a specificity problem.
>
> I have a rule for:
>
> cursor entry {}
>
> that might work if you target it with a color rule.
>
> But without playing around with it, I'm not sure why I have it. (sadly,
> I did not document it)
>
> GnuCash also has some defined color variables you can use. I have
> definitions for:
>
> @define-color register_secondary_bg_color #d9d9d9;
> @define-color register_cursor_bg_color #fefefe;
>
> I don't know if there is a 'register_cursor_fg_color' or just
> 'register_cursor_color' but one of those might be worth a shot.
>
> > As for the header I'm not sure how you would completely remove that. I'm
> > assuming that would be in the code and not just CSS.
>
> You probably can't (I didn't try) but I'll hazard something like:
>
> register-header {
>   display: none;
> }
>
> is the first thing to try.
>
> Of course, I'd fire up the Inspector and play with changes live to see
> what works, and then copy/paste those rules into my CSS file.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Color of register placeholder text and hiding register header

2022-09-12 Thread chandler via gnucash-user

Glenn Fowler wrote on 9/11/22 11:16:

I found this will change the input text color:

gnc-id-cursor entry {
   color: green;
}

...and it works but it gets overridden whenever you change 
*.gnc-class-register-cursor color but not sure why.


Cool!  Well if I leave the *.gnc-class-register-cursor color undefined then the 
placeholder text defaults to the gray/italic setting, which will work fine for 
my theme.  However it would probably still be good to know how to define both 
colors/styles in case someone else wants to do that...



As for the header I'm not sure how you would completely remove that. I'm 
assuming that would be in the code and not just CSS.


Yeah I figured as much, but thought I'd check anyway.


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Re: [GNC] Color of register placeholder text and hiding register header

2022-09-12 Thread chandler via gnucash-user

Glenn Fowler wrote on 9/11/22 09:28:

/* register blank transaction placeholder text */

*.gnc-class-register-cursor {
   color: purple;
}


Unfortunately not quite.  This makes both the placeholder and entered text 
purple.  In the built-in color theme, the placeholder text is gray and italic, 
while entered text black and without effects.  Is there a file in the source 
code somewhere defining all the built-in color values?  The answer might be in 
there



/* register header */

*.gnc-class-register-header {
   background-color: #a8b8bf;
   color: black;
}

You could make the text and background in the header the same color to hide it.


The header would still be there though, covering up entries in the register.  
My goal is to get rid of this header altogether so I can see more of the 
register...


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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Liz Dodd
On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 16:34:07 -0400
Richard Barmann  wrote:

> I may have been double clicking because my hands shake and I find
> myself typing double letters when I type. I carefully tried closing
> and it is working. I will just have to watch what I do. I am 90 and
> will watch what I am doing. Thank you for  all that help.
> 
> Richard Barmann

The mouse double-click speed can be changed, here is one article with
the information. 
https://www.myofficetricks.com/how-to-adjust-the-double-click-speed-in-windows-10/
Liz
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Re: [GNC] Color of register placeholder text and hiding register header

2022-09-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone

On 9/11/22 1:16 PM, Glenn Fowler wrote:

I found this will change the input text color:

gnc-id-cursor entry {
   color: green;
}

...and it works but it gets overridden whenever you change
*.gnc-class-register-cursor color but not sure why.


Not sure either, maybe reverse them in the file? (this is Cascading 
Style Sheets after all) It could also be a specificity problem.


I have a rule for:

cursor entry {}

that might work if you target it with a color rule.

But without playing around with it, I'm not sure why I have it. (sadly, 
I did not document it)


GnuCash also has some defined color variables you can use. I have 
definitions for:


@define-color register_secondary_bg_color #d9d9d9;
@define-color register_cursor_bg_color #fefefe;

I don't know if there is a 'register_cursor_fg_color' or just 
'register_cursor_color' but one of those might be worth a shot.



As for the header I'm not sure how you would completely remove that. I'm
assuming that would be in the code and not just CSS.


You probably can't (I didn't try) but I'll hazard something like:

register-header {
 display: none;
}

is the first thing to try.

Of course, I'd fire up the Inspector and play with changes live to see 
what works, and then copy/paste those rules into my CSS file.


Regards,
Adrien


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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone

Kudos for still maintaining track of your finances at 90!

Your welcome. I'm glad you got into your proper file.

Regards,
Adrien

On 9/12/22 3:34 PM, Richard Barmann wrote:
I may have been double clicking because my hands shake and I find myself 
typing double letters when I type. I carefully tried closing and it is 
working. I will just have to watch what I do. I am 90 and will watch 
what I am doing. Thank you for  all that help.


Richard Barmann



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Re: [GNC] new to Gnucash - help with general information

2022-09-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone

Donna,

Others have sufficiently answered, but I'll add some points about backups:

There is the maxim, for least risk, that if your data does not exist in 
three places, on three different types of media, you can consider it 
'not existing at all.'


That might be extreme for some folks. As noted, your appetite for risk 
will determine your backup strategy and methods.


If you have your data on your computer, that's one location and one type 
of media. (the internal drive most likely)


If you make a copy on removable media like a USB drive, (larger drive, 
or thumb/key) that's another, but for better protection this should be 
stored at a different physical location. (or easily taken with you if 
you must leave the main location of your computer for some emergency) On 
this point, do not confound a laptop as a main computer with this second 
location because it is portable. You should have at least one other copy.


If you then also utilize a cloud (just someone else's computer) backup 
service, this gives you a third location. Cloud Backup services, due to 
the nature of their product, *also* backup their/your data, and use 
methods to avoid data loss due to failed drives. (data centers employ 
arrays of drives, they constantly test their drives, and the replace 
them regularly - far more than 99.% of regular users do)


As for *types* of media, consider that your computer and any 
external/removable drives will employ magnetic storage and contain 
electronics. These are susceptible to of course, strong magnets, 
electrical surges, water, & fire damage.


While not as common these days, optical media, such as CD, DVD, & 
BlueRay, while of course still susceptible to fire damage, have no 
issues with water or magnets. (or other electronic failure) Though the 
drive needed to read them will be vulnerable, it is of course more 
replaceable than your data. There are 'archival' quality discs available 
for long term storage. I probably wouldn't go to that expense for 
'current' financial data, but I certainly would consider it for things 
like photos and scanned legal documents. More transient backups, like my 
GnuCash data file, are fine on cheap CDs or DVDs. (the choice there is 
just a matter of storage capacity versus cost)




Regards,
Adrien

On 9/10/22 1:37 PM, gra...@shaw.ca wrote:

I am new to Gnucash and have a few questions regarding saving data.  I use
Windows 10 and Gnucash Version: 4.11 Build ID: 4.11+(2022-06-25)

1.  I would like to save everything in one folder named Gnucash.  I
think I will use the xml format.  Currently it seems there are files in
three different folders.
How do I make sure to save everything to one folder?

2.  Can I move everything I have (which is in 3 different folders) to a
folder named Gnucash without harm to the data I have entered.  (I previously
had entered data for 2021, then deleted a bunch of files and most of the
data disappeared.  The file types were text and gnucash financial data)

3.  How long do you need to keep the different files?
Are there certain files needed to keep the data in the Gnucash system?  I
have looked at the FAQ but still not clear.

4.  When you click the save button when entering transactions, how do
you know where it is being saved to?  I'd like it to be saved in Gnucash
folder, as indicated above.

5.  Back ups - I have read a lot about the back ups but still unsure
what to do.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.



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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Richard Barmann
I may have been double clicking because my hands shake and I find myself 
typing double letters when I type. I carefully tried closing and it is 
working. I will just have to watch what I do. I am 90 and will watch 
what I am doing. Thank you for  all that help.


Richard Barmann

On 9/12/2022 4:09 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Richard (Barmann),

To open GnuCash, just use the shortcut *for the app*, and *do not* 
double-click your data file.


This will open the last used file.

If this gets you what you want - great, the problem is solved. Open 
GnuCash this way from now on.


If this isn't the version of data you expect to see, then please 
report to us the name of the file you see in the title bar at the top 
of the GnuCash window.


For example, my title bar shows:

"personal.gnucash - Accounts - GnuCash"

the first part, "personal.gnucash" is the data file name. (the second 
part is the tab that has focus, "Accounts" in this case, and the third 
part is of course, the name of the app)


If you see numbers in your file name that you didn't put there, you 
are inadvertently opening a dated backup copy instead of the original 
main file.


We can help you fix it and get back to your main file.

Regards,
Adrien

On 9/12/22 12:14 PM, Richard Barmann wrote:
I am using Windows 10.When I close Gnucash and return the next day I 
cannot find the correct up to date file fr0m the day before. I tried 
to save/ and then close Gnucash. I wll see if that works.



On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 6:36 AM Richard Barmann  wrote:


When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It
opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the
entries up to date.

Richard Barmann



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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Richard Barmann
I may have been double clicking the data file. I followed our 
instructions and it is working . I want to thank everyone that helped me.


Richard Barmann

On 9/12/2022 4:09 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Richard (Barmann),

To open GnuCash, just use the shortcut *for the app*, and *do not* 
double-click your data file.


This will open the last used file.

If this gets you what you want - great, the problem is solved. Open 
GnuCash this way from now on.


If this isn't the version of data you expect to see, then please 
report to us the name of the file you see in the title bar at the top 
of the GnuCash window.


For example, my title bar shows:

"personal.gnucash - Accounts - GnuCash"

the first part, "personal.gnucash" is the data file name. (the second 
part is the tab that has focus, "Accounts" in this case, and the third 
part is of course, the name of the app)


If you see numbers in your file name that you didn't put there, you 
are inadvertently opening a dated backup copy instead of the original 
main file.


We can help you fix it and get back to your main file.

Regards,
Adrien

On 9/12/22 12:14 PM, Richard Barmann wrote:
I am using Windows 10.When I close Gnucash and return the next day I 
cannot find the correct up to date file fr0m the day before. I tried 
to save/ and then close Gnucash. I wll see if that works.



On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 6:36 AM Richard Barmann  wrote:


When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It
opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the
entries up to date.

Richard Barmann



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Re: [GNC] Pre-Payments into Liabilities

2022-09-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone

And to add to what Stan & Gyle said,

Several years ago, I played around with pre-payments using a 
Liabilities:Customer Deposits account but that was a mess. The way the 
Business Features of GnuCash work, it is *much* easier to just Process 
Payment, letting it post to AR and then apply it later to an invoice. 
You also get a nice 'Statement of Account' with the Customer Report 
which would otherwise not reflect the pre-payment.


IF I would ever encounter the situation that I'm not going to invoice 
that customer ever again, and would have to carry the prepayment funds 
for a long period of time for some odd reason rather than issue a timely 
refund, I would then do a transfer from AR to the Liabilities:Customer 
Deposits account and handle from there. But that would be a very odd case.


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/11/22 5:51 PM, Vance Turnewitsch via gnucash-user wrote:

Hello,
I use GnuCash for a small school. One of our parents paid their entire tuition 
amount at the beginning of the year. I have been fiddling with how to record 
this.

We bill monthly; therefore, for the payment that doesn't have a receivable yet, shouldn't 
it go into a liability account? Using the "Process Payment" dialog results in 
an accounts receivable with a negative balance. This seems odd to me, but it has been 
some time since I took accounting. In GnuCash's system, is an accounts receivable with a 
negative balance akin to a liability?



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Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

2022-09-12 Thread David Carlson
Also, in your thread started last May you mentioned an adventure with
release 4.0 and 4.10, after which you may not have had a clean uninstall.
Have you tried using either the Windows uninstaller or a third party
uninstaller?  I wish I could remember the name of the third party
uninstaller that used to work very well, at least several years ago.

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 3:03 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Richard (Clarkson),
>
> You mentioned in the other thread that you also tried from PowerShell.
>
> Is there no output there when it fails to completely open?
>
> Have you tried to view the Windows Logs to see if any warnings or errors
> were reported about the time you tried to start GnuCash?
>
> Of course, if you can get a Trace File (see the wiki) and/or stack trace
> that might help too.
>
> And to confirm - you downloaded GnuCash *from* the links on gnucash.org,
> and not somewhere else? (which take you to the GnuCash SourceForge
> project page)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 9/10/22 6:03 PM, Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user wrote:
> >>> Yes I use the windows installer and I have tried letting the installer
> delete the previous version and have also tried deleting the previous
> version myself.
> >>>
> >>> From: David Carlson 
> >>> Sent: 10 September 2022 17:33
> >>> To: Gyle McCollam 
> >>> Cc: Richard Clarkson ; Gnucash Users <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on
> Windows 11
> >>>
> >>> Are you using the windows installer as downloaded from the Gnucash.org
> website for each gnucash version?
> >>>
> >>> Do you let the installer delete the existing version or do you use
> another method?
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone

Richard (Barmann),

To open GnuCash, just use the shortcut *for the app*, and *do not* 
double-click your data file.


This will open the last used file.

If this gets you what you want - great, the problem is solved. Open 
GnuCash this way from now on.


If this isn't the version of data you expect to see, then please report 
to us the name of the file you see in the title bar at the top of the 
GnuCash window.


For example, my title bar shows:

"personal.gnucash - Accounts - GnuCash"

the first part, "personal.gnucash" is the data file name. (the second 
part is the tab that has focus, "Accounts" in this case, and the third 
part is of course, the name of the app)


If you see numbers in your file name that you didn't put there, you are 
inadvertently opening a dated backup copy instead of the original main file.


We can help you fix it and get back to your main file.

Regards,
Adrien

On 9/12/22 12:14 PM, Richard Barmann wrote:
I am using Windows 10.When I close Gnucash and return the next day I 
cannot find the correct up to date file fr0m the day before. I tried to 
save/ and then close Gnucash. I wll see if that works.



On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 6:36 AM Richard Barmann  wrote:


When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It
opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the
entries up to date.

Richard Barmann



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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread David Carlson
Now that I am back on a real tower computer which, alas, is presently
running Windows 10, I see that Mr Clarkson is currently working with
Kalpesh Patel in a different thread, so persons interested in his problem
can look for that thread.

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 2:56 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Holy Cow.
>
> This thread is a disaster.
>
> Richard Clarkson, please, unless you can help Richard Barmann, do not
> reply any longer in this thread. Please, start a new one or if still
> applicable, reply in your own old thread.
>
> The two of you are replying to questions meant for the other and others
> offering advice aren't making it clear who they are talking to, and
> these two facts are combining to make things very confusing.
>
> Neither of you will get proper help with this confusion.
>
> So please keep the issues separate.
>
>  From what I can see so far:
>
> Richard Barmann (who it appears, started *this* thread) is using Win10
> and *can* open GnuCash, but is allegedly seeing 'old data' and any *new
> data* is apparently missing.
>
> Richard Clarkson is using Win11 and *cannot* open GnuCash *at all* using
> v4.11, but *can* using v4.9.
>
> These are two vastly separate issues from two different people. (or else
> it is I that am really lost)
>
> For everyone else, can we keep this thread about Richard Barmann's
> problem and save the Richard Clarkson problem for a more appropriate
> thread? If we do so, I suspect we can help both of them out in short
> order. (at least shorter than keeping things confounded!)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 9/12/22 1:06 PM, Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user wrote:
> > Thanks Michael.
> >
> > No it doesn't. The path is C:/Program Files (x86)/gnucash/bin/gnucash.exe
> >
> > My data file is GNUData.gnucash - there are of course backups. But even
> if I
> > try to open GnuData.gnucash with GnuCash Program File then nothing
> happens.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: gnucash-user
> >  On Behalf
> Of
> > Fross, Michael
> > Sent: 12 September 2022 18:35
> > To: Richard Barmann 
> > Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash
> >
> > Richard, does your GNUCash file have a date string in the name?  If so,
> then
> > you are inadvertently using a backup file.  Your filename should be
> >
> > FILENAME.gnucash   (FILENAME is whatever you decided to call it)
> >
> > If it looks like:
> >
> > FILENAME.gnucash.20220909023225.gnucash  (insert a valid date time stamp)
> >
> > then it's a backup file and you are working on a backup.  This is not
> what
> > you want.
> >
> > If this is the case, do a File | SaveAs and call it NAME.gnucash and go
> from
> > there.
> >
> > Michael
>
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Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

2022-09-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone

Richard (Clarkson),

You mentioned in the other thread that you also tried from PowerShell.

Is there no output there when it fails to completely open?

Have you tried to view the Windows Logs to see if any warnings or errors 
were reported about the time you tried to start GnuCash?


Of course, if you can get a Trace File (see the wiki) and/or stack trace 
that might help too.


And to confirm - you downloaded GnuCash *from* the links on gnucash.org, 
and not somewhere else? (which take you to the GnuCash SourceForge 
project page)


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/10/22 6:03 PM, Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user wrote:
Yes I use the windows installer and I have tried letting the installer delete the previous version and have also tried deleting the previous version myself.  


From: David Carlson 
Sent: 10 September 2022 17:33
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: Richard Clarkson ; Gnucash Users 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Issue Opening GnuCash in versions above 4.9 on Windows 11

Are you using the windows installer as downloaded from the Gnucash.org website 
for each gnucash version?

Do you let the installer delete the existing version or do you use another 
method?



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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone

Holy Cow.

This thread is a disaster.

Richard Clarkson, please, unless you can help Richard Barmann, do not 
reply any longer in this thread. Please, start a new one or if still 
applicable, reply in your own old thread.


The two of you are replying to questions meant for the other and others 
offering advice aren't making it clear who they are talking to, and 
these two facts are combining to make things very confusing.


Neither of you will get proper help with this confusion.

So please keep the issues separate.

From what I can see so far:

Richard Barmann (who it appears, started *this* thread) is using Win10 
and *can* open GnuCash, but is allegedly seeing 'old data' and any *new 
data* is apparently missing.


Richard Clarkson is using Win11 and *cannot* open GnuCash *at all* using 
v4.11, but *can* using v4.9.


These are two vastly separate issues from two different people. (or else 
it is I that am really lost)


For everyone else, can we keep this thread about Richard Barmann's 
problem and save the Richard Clarkson problem for a more appropriate 
thread? If we do so, I suspect we can help both of them out in short 
order. (at least shorter than keeping things confounded!)


Regards,
Adrien

On 9/12/22 1:06 PM, Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user wrote:

Thanks Michael.

No it doesn't. The path is C:/Program Files (x86)/gnucash/bin/gnucash.exe

My data file is GNUData.gnucash - there are of course backups. But even if I
try to open GnuData.gnucash with GnuCash Program File then nothing happens.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
 On Behalf Of
Fross, Michael
Sent: 12 September 2022 18:35
To: Richard Barmann 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

Richard, does your GNUCash file have a date string in the name?  If so, then
you are inadvertently using a backup file.  Your filename should be

FILENAME.gnucash   (FILENAME is whatever you decided to call it)

If it looks like:

FILENAME.gnucash.20220909023225.gnucash  (insert a valid date time stamp)

then it's a backup file and you are working on a backup.  This is not what
you want.

If this is the case, do a File | SaveAs and call it NAME.gnucash and go from
there.

Michael



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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread David Carlson
I see that there is a Richard Barmann having an issue with Gnucash opening
an old data file and a Richard Clarkson having an issue with versions more
recent than 4.9 failing to start.  In my email client their messages are
inextricably tangled.  I also see that now Richard Clarkson is discussing
his issue with another person who's name I cannot see while writing this
post but I recall that Mr. Clarkson's problem started last May when
migrating from 3.something to 4.0 and it got worse after that.

Mr Barmann, have you been able to solve your problem?

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022, 1:12 PM Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Thanks Gyle - no message, as GnuCash won't open. Tried opening data file
> with the GnuCash Program and still nothing.
>
> Richard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user
>  On Behalf Of
> Gyle McCollam
> Sent: 10 September 2022 15:25
> To: Richard Barmann ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash
>
> Richard,
> You may not have closed it correctly, however in that case you would have
> gotten a message that the file was locked with options on opening.  Gnucash
> opens the last file, so you may have lost some data.  To be sure you have
> the latest file use open/file and select the most recent ???.gnucash file
> not any of the log files or files with dates as part of the name.  Then try
> Help/Tutorial and  Concepts Guide.  In the search box type "log files"
> enter
> and it will take you to the page explaining how to restore.
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccol...@live.com   email
>
> 
> From: gnucash-user  on
> behalf of Richard Barmann 
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 9:35 AM
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> Subject: [GNC] Opening Gnucash
>
> When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It opens
> a
> page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the entries up to
> date.
>
> Richard Barmann
>
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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user
Kalpesh

I haven't enabled Ransomware Protection, Tamper Protection or Controlled
folder access.

Just looking in to installing gdb  so I can obtain the stack trace. Thank
you for that suggestion.

Richard 

-Original Message-
From: Kalpesh Patel  
Sent: 12 September 2022 17:17
To: rtclark...@btinternet.com
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Opening Gnucash

I have a feeling that those higher version of GNC are silently crashing due
to improper permission on a file somewhere. Do you know if you have enabled
the Ransomware Protection, Tamper Protection or Controlled folder access
feature in Windows 11? They tend to sometimes cause these sort of silent
error that might be experienced.

If you are up to it, might be worth following steps in
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Stack_Trace which might have traces of GNC
failures if GNC is at fault. To capture good deal of debug info, add --debug
switch to GNC as part of the gdb call.



--

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 23:35:53 +0100
From: "Richard Clarkson" 
To: "'Greg Feneis'" ,
Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash
Message-ID: <001801d8c62e$da672e20$8f358a60$@btinternet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

Greg

Thank you!

As I mentioned GnuCash 4.9, Windows 11 (64 bit). Have tried opening from
apps, from shortcut, directly from the GnuCash.exe in bin. I cannot open
GnuCash from any version higher than 4.9. I see a circle for a few seconds
while windows is try to open GnuCash and then nothing. I've tried opening
from PowerShell too.

Is there any way of seeing where the exe is getting stuck or if something is
missing or if I need to update anything?

I'm either go to have to stay on 4.9 or change to another program.

Thanks you for your help.

RIchard

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
 On Behalf Of
Greg Feneis
Sent: 11 September 2022 14:59
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

Richard,

You may want to provide a few more details.  Perhaps mention the version of
GnuCash you're using, which OS you're using.  How do you open GnuCash, by
starting the application or by clicking on a saved file?  And so on.

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis




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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user
Thanks Gyle - no message, as GnuCash won't open. Tried opening data file
with the GnuCash Program and still nothing.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
 On Behalf Of
Gyle McCollam
Sent: 10 September 2022 15:25
To: Richard Barmann ; gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

Richard,
You may not have closed it correctly, however in that case you would have
gotten a message that the file was locked with options on opening.  Gnucash
opens the last file, so you may have lost some data.  To be sure you have
the latest file use open/file and select the most recent ???.gnucash file
not any of the log files or files with dates as part of the name.  Then try
Help/Tutorial and  Concepts Guide.  In the search box type "log files" enter
and it will take you to the page explaining how to restore.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

gmccol...@live.com   email


From: gnucash-user  on
behalf of Richard Barmann 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 9:35 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It opens a
page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the entries up to
date.

Richard Barmann

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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user
Thanks Michael.

No it doesn't. The path is C:/Program Files (x86)/gnucash/bin/gnucash.exe

My data file is GNUData.gnucash - there are of course backups. But even if I
try to open GnuData.gnucash with GnuCash Program File then nothing happens.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
 On Behalf Of
Fross, Michael
Sent: 12 September 2022 18:35
To: Richard Barmann 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

Richard, does your GNUCash file have a date string in the name?  If so, then
you are inadvertently using a backup file.  Your filename should be

FILENAME.gnucash   (FILENAME is whatever you decided to call it)

If it looks like:

FILENAME.gnucash.20220909023225.gnucash  (insert a valid date time stamp)

then it's a backup file and you are working on a backup.  This is not what
you want.

If this is the case, do a File | SaveAs and call it NAME.gnucash and go from
there.

Michael


On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:15 PM Richard Barmann  wrote:

> I am using Windows 10.When I close Gnucash and return the next day I 
> cannot find the correct up to date file fr0m the day before. I tried 
> to save/ and then close Gnucash. I wll see if that works.
>
> Richard
>
> On 9/12/2022 10:25 AM, David Carlson wrote:
> > Richard,
> >
> > Do I understand correctly that after you download
> gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe
> > from the link on gnucash.org and use it to install GnuCash.exe using 
> > default  settings then the icon on the Windows 11 equivalent to the
> Windows
> > 10 icon that is supposed to start GnuCash doesn't work?  Also 
> > clicking on the data file icon in file manager manager doesn't work 
> > either?  Yet if
> you
> > then run gnucash-4.9.setup.exe to revert to release 4.9 then that 
> > release starts as expected and opens the correctdata file?
> >
> > If you are doing something different please explain.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 11, 2022, 5:36 PM Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user < 
> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >>
> >> As I mentioned GnuCash 4.9, Windows 11 (64 bit). Have tried opening 
> >> from apps, from shortcut, directly from the GnuCash.exe in bin. I 
> >> cannot open GnuCash from any version higher than 4.9. I see a 
> >> circle for a few
> seconds
> >> while windows is try to open GnuCash and then nothing. I've tried
> opening
> >> from PowerShell too.
> >>
> >> Is there any way of seeing where the exe is getting stuck or if
> something
> >> is
> >> missing or if I need to update anything?
> >>
> >> I'm either go to have to stay on 4.9 or change to another program.
> >>
> >> Thanks you for your help.
> >>
> >> RIchard
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: gnucash-user
> >>  On 
> >> Behalf
> Of
> >> Greg Feneis
> >> Sent: 11 September 2022 14:59
> >> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> >> Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash
> >>
> >> Richard,
> >>
> >> You may want to provide a few more details.  Perhaps mention the
> version of
> >> GnuCash you're using, which OS you're using.  How do you open 
> >> GnuCash,
> by
> >> starting the application or by clicking on a saved file?  And so on.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Greg Feneis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 6:36 AM Richard Barmann  wrote:
> >>
> >>> When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account 
> >>> It opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with 
> >>> the entries up to date.
> >>>
> >>> Richard Barmann
> >>>
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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Fross, Michael
Richard, does your GNUCash file have a date string in the name?  If so,
then  you are inadvertently using a backup file.  Your filename should be

FILENAME.gnucash   (FILENAME is whatever you decided to call it)

If it looks like:

FILENAME.gnucash.20220909023225.gnucash  (insert a valid date time stamp)

then it's a backup file and you are working on a backup.  This is not what
you want.

If this is the case, do a File | SaveAs and call it NAME.gnucash and go
from there.

Michael


On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:15 PM Richard Barmann  wrote:

> I am using Windows 10.When I close Gnucash and return the next day I
> cannot find the correct up to date file fr0m the day before. I tried to
> save/ and then close Gnucash. I wll see if that works.
>
> Richard
>
> On 9/12/2022 10:25 AM, David Carlson wrote:
> > Richard,
> >
> > Do I understand correctly that after you download
> gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe
> > from the link on gnucash.org and use it to install GnuCash.exe using
> > default  settings then the icon on the Windows 11 equivalent to the
> Windows
> > 10 icon that is supposed to start GnuCash doesn't work?  Also clicking on
> > the data file icon in file manager manager doesn't work either?  Yet if
> you
> > then run gnucash-4.9.setup.exe to revert to release 4.9 then that release
> > starts as expected and opens the correctdata file?
> >
> > If you are doing something different please explain.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 11, 2022, 5:36 PM Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user <
> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >>
> >> As I mentioned GnuCash 4.9, Windows 11 (64 bit). Have tried opening from
> >> apps, from shortcut, directly from the GnuCash.exe in bin. I cannot open
> >> GnuCash from any version higher than 4.9. I see a circle for a few
> seconds
> >> while windows is try to open GnuCash and then nothing. I've tried
> opening
> >> from PowerShell too.
> >>
> >> Is there any way of seeing where the exe is getting stuck or if
> something
> >> is
> >> missing or if I need to update anything?
> >>
> >> I'm either go to have to stay on 4.9 or change to another program.
> >>
> >> Thanks you for your help.
> >>
> >> RIchard
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: gnucash-user
> >>  On Behalf
> Of
> >> Greg Feneis
> >> Sent: 11 September 2022 14:59
> >> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> >> Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash
> >>
> >> Richard,
> >>
> >> You may want to provide a few more details.  Perhaps mention the
> version of
> >> GnuCash you're using, which OS you're using.  How do you open GnuCash,
> by
> >> starting the application or by clicking on a saved file?  And so on.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Greg Feneis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 6:36 AM Richard Barmann  wrote:
> >>
> >>> When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It
> >>> opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the
> >>> entries up to date.
> >>>
> >>> Richard Barmann
> >>>
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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Richard Barmann
I am using Windows 10.When I close Gnucash and return the next day I 
cannot find the correct up to date file fr0m the day before. I tried to 
save/ and then close Gnucash. I wll see if that works.


Richard

On 9/12/2022 10:25 AM, David Carlson wrote:

Richard,

Do I understand correctly that after you download gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe
from the link on gnucash.org and use it to install GnuCash.exe using
default  settings then the icon on the Windows 11 equivalent to the Windows
10 icon that is supposed to start GnuCash doesn't work?  Also clicking on
the data file icon in file manager manager doesn't work either?  Yet if you
then run gnucash-4.9.setup.exe to revert to release 4.9 then that release
starts as expected and opens the correctdata file?

If you are doing something different please explain.



On Sun, Sep 11, 2022, 5:36 PM Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:


Greg

Thank you!

As I mentioned GnuCash 4.9, Windows 11 (64 bit). Have tried opening from
apps, from shortcut, directly from the GnuCash.exe in bin. I cannot open
GnuCash from any version higher than 4.9. I see a circle for a few seconds
while windows is try to open GnuCash and then nothing. I've tried opening
from PowerShell too.

Is there any way of seeing where the exe is getting stuck or if something
is
missing or if I need to update anything?

I'm either go to have to stay on 4.9 or change to another program.

Thanks you for your help.

RIchard

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
 On Behalf Of
Greg Feneis
Sent: 11 September 2022 14:59
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

Richard,

You may want to provide a few more details.  Perhaps mention the version of
GnuCash you're using, which OS you're using.  How do you open GnuCash, by
starting the application or by clicking on a saved file?  And so on.

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis




On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 6:36 AM Richard Barmann  wrote:


When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It
opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the
entries up to date.

Richard Barmann

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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread Kalpesh Patel
I have a feeling that those higher version of GNC are silently crashing due
to improper permission on a file somewhere. Do you know if you have enabled
the Ransomware Protection, Tamper Protection or Controlled folder access
feature in Windows 11? They tend to sometimes cause these sort of silent
error that might be experienced.

If you are up to it, might be worth following steps in
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Stack_Trace which might have traces of GNC
failures if GNC is at fault. To capture good deal of debug info, add --debug
switch to GNC as part of the gdb call.



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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 23:35:53 +0100
From: "Richard Clarkson" 
To: "'Greg Feneis'" ,
Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash
Message-ID: <001801d8c62e$da672e20$8f358a60$@btinternet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

Greg

Thank you!

As I mentioned GnuCash 4.9, Windows 11 (64 bit). Have tried opening from
apps, from shortcut, directly from the GnuCash.exe in bin. I cannot open
GnuCash from any version higher than 4.9. I see a circle for a few seconds
while windows is try to open GnuCash and then nothing. I've tried opening
from PowerShell too.

Is there any way of seeing where the exe is getting stuck or if something is
missing or if I need to update anything?

I'm either go to have to stay on 4.9 or change to another program.

Thanks you for your help.

RIchard

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
 On Behalf Of
Greg Feneis
Sent: 11 September 2022 14:59
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

Richard,

You may want to provide a few more details.  Perhaps mention the version of
GnuCash you're using, which OS you're using.  How do you open GnuCash, by
starting the application or by clicking on a saved file?  And so on.

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis



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Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash

2022-09-12 Thread David Carlson
Richard,

Do I understand correctly that after you download gnucash-4.11-1.setup.exe
from the link on gnucash.org and use it to install GnuCash.exe using
default  settings then the icon on the Windows 11 equivalent to the Windows
10 icon that is supposed to start GnuCash doesn't work?  Also clicking on
the data file icon in file manager manager doesn't work either?  Yet if you
then run gnucash-4.9.setup.exe to revert to release 4.9 then that release
starts as expected and opens the correctdata file?

If you are doing something different please explain.



On Sun, Sep 11, 2022, 5:36 PM Richard Clarkson via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Greg
>
> Thank you!
>
> As I mentioned GnuCash 4.9, Windows 11 (64 bit). Have tried opening from
> apps, from shortcut, directly from the GnuCash.exe in bin. I cannot open
> GnuCash from any version higher than 4.9. I see a circle for a few seconds
> while windows is try to open GnuCash and then nothing. I've tried opening
> from PowerShell too.
>
> Is there any way of seeing where the exe is getting stuck or if something
> is
> missing or if I need to update anything?
>
> I'm either go to have to stay on 4.9 or change to another program.
>
> Thanks you for your help.
>
> RIchard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user
>  On Behalf Of
> Greg Feneis
> Sent: 11 September 2022 14:59
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Opening Gnucash
>
> Richard,
>
> You may want to provide a few more details.  Perhaps mention the version of
> GnuCash you're using, which OS you're using.  How do you open GnuCash, by
> starting the application or by clicking on a saved file?  And so on.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Greg Feneis
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2022 at 6:36 AM Richard Barmann  wrote:
>
> > When IO open Gnucash to make some entries in the checking account It
> > opens a page from the past. How can I open the latest page with the
> > entries up to date.
> >
> > Richard Barmann
> >
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Re: [GNC] Problems upgrading to 4.8a

2022-09-12 Thread Phil Wolff via gnucash-user
   On 9/11/22 13:02, Geert Janssens wrote:

   Op zaterdag 10 september 2022 19:49:52 CEST schreef Phil Wolff:

   > On 9/10/22 08:34, Geert Janssens wrote:

   > That is really odd and again suggesting your gnucash is not
   configured as

   > per default. We'll have to find out where this comes from...

   >

   > Can you provide the result of commands

   >

   > alias gnucash

   > type gnucash

   > ls -l $(type gnucash)

   >

   > dellbert@dellbert:~$ alias gnucash

   > bash: alias: gnucash: not found

   > dellbert@dellbert:~$ type gnucash

   > gnucash is /usr/bin/gnucash

   > dellbert@dellbert:~$ ls -l $(type gnucash)

   > ls: cannot access 'gnucash': No such file or directory

   > ls: cannot access 'is': No such file or directory

   > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 142088 Feb  9  2022 /usr/bin/gnucash

   >

   Ok, these were to ensure our basic assumption is correct. You're
   effectively running /usr/bin/gnucash and not some alias or link to
   another location.

   > Also can you start gnucash once as follows:

   >

   > gnucash --log "gnc.app-utils=debug"

   >

   > You can leave out the name to your data file. It will reduce the
   amount of

   > messages in the trace file.

   >

   > After having run, can you filter the trace file for messages coming
   from

   > gnc.app-utils and post them here?

   >

   > That's a way to find out where gnucash looks for the config-user.scm
   file...

   >

   > Filtering reduced line count from 943 to 815 

   >

   I'm sorry about that. I could have asked to filter more aggressively
   (but it was very late here when I wrote my last mail). This is the info
   I was looking for:

   > [gfec_try_load] looking for /etc/gnucash/config * 09:00:08 DEBUG

   >
   

   >

   > [gfec_try_load] looking for
   /home/dellbert/.config/gnucash/config-user.scm

   > * 09:00:08 DEBUG

   >
   

   >

   > [gfec_try_load] trying to load

   > /home/dellbert/.config/gnucash/config-user.scm * 09:00:08 DEBUG

   >
   

   >

   These lines show that the config-user.scm file is found. No idea why
   this wouldn't print the value of XDG_DATA_DIRS to your gnucash trace
   file. But if needed we can debug that later. Let's first follow the
   other possible clue below.

   

   >

   > As these early queries fail, no migration is started. And in general

   > considering most queries fail, I think no preferences are ever kept
   across

   > gnucash restarts. You could experiment with this by setting a
   preference to

   > non-default in gnucash. Restart gnucash and check the preference
   again ?

   >

   > I've done that - any changes I make are lost on a restart.

   >

   Ok, that confirms gnucash has an issue with finding settings schemas in
   some way.

   > And if so can you use the command

   >

   > grep org.gnucash.general $(strings )

   >

   > on each of these (replace  with the proper path to the

   > gschemas.compiled file)

   >

   >

   >

   > A rather long list containing zero occurences of gnucassh

   >

   Unfortunately my command was bad (late night...) :(

   Can you retry with this command:

   strings ./share/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled | grep
   org.gnucash.general
   dellbert@dellbert:/usr$ cd /usr/local
   dellbert@dellbert:/usr/local$ strings
   ./share/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled | grep org.gnucash.general
   dellbert@dellbert:/usr/local$

   And, for good measure,

   dellbert@dellbert:/usr/local$ cd /usr
   dellbert@dellbert:/usr$ strings
   ./share/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled | grep org.gnucash.general
   (())org.gnucash.general.report
   /org/gnucash/general/report/
   org.gnucash.general.report.pdf-export
   org.gnucash.general
   org.gnucash.general.report
   org.gnucash.general.register
   /org/gnucash/general/
   (i)org.gnucash.general.finance-quote
   /org/gnucash/general/finance-quote/
   org.gnucash.general.register
   /org/gnucash/general/register/
   (s(yau))org.gnucash.general.report.pdf-export
   (s).path/org/gnucash/general/report/pdf-export/
   general/org.gnucash.general
   dellbert@dellbert:/usr$

   dellbert@dellbert:/usr$ cd /usr
   dellbert@dellbert:/usr$ strings
   ./share/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled | grep
   org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
   (b)org.gnucash.GnuCash.general.report
   /org/gnucash/GnuCash/general/report/
   org.gnucash.GnuCash.general.report.pdf-export
   (i)org.gnucash.GnuCash.general.finance-quote
   /org/gnucash/GnuCash/general/finance-quote/
   org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
   org.gnucash.GnuCash.general.report
   org.gnucash.GnuCash.general.register
   /org/gnucash/GnuCash/general/
   (i)org.gnucash.GnuCash.general.report.pdf-export
   (s).path/org/gnucash/GnuCash/general/report/pdf-export/
   general/org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
   org.gnucash.GnuCash.general.register
   /org/gnucash/GnuCash/general/register/
   dellbert@dellbert:/usr$

   Incidentally, I have a Scheduled Transaction due today (9/12) that
   wasn't automatically created. Using Actions/Scheduled
  

Re: [GNC] Upgrade issue on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and GNC 4.10

2022-09-12 Thread Martin Booth via gnucash-user
 Hi JeffI had a similar issue with reports on GNC 4.11 when Ubuntu got an 
update when I was running 22.04.Although, when I ran the report and the display 
screen was blank, I ran the output to PDF and the report data was populated.
I understand reports use webkitgkt file to produce reports.To fix the blank 
reports output on screen I had to reinstall GNC in the flatpak, then it worked 
fine.As far as I could find is that a connector/link of some sort breaks 
between Ubuntu and GNC during the update of Ubuntu.Hope this 
helps.Regards,Martin 



On Monday, 12 September 2022 at 07:17:32 BST, Jeff 
 wrote:  
 
 Came home to find my Ubuntu server, where GNC and all of my books are, 
saying there was an upgrade from Ubuntu 20.04 LTS to 22.04.1 LTS.  Like 
an idiot I didn't check it, just clicked do it, it's an LTS upgrade 
after-all.

After several hours it finished.  I opened what was GNC 4.10 FlatPak 
before.  It ain't now, is Version: 4.11, Build ID: Flathub 4.11, 
Finance::Quote: 1.49.

Would not have questioned it any further except that the tab selected 
was the TXF report and it is totally blank.  Refresh does not help, 
tried different from to dates, and basically every option available in 
the report.  Nothing.

Options please.

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[GNC] Upgrade issue on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and GNC 4.10

2022-09-12 Thread Jeff
Came home to find my Ubuntu server, where GNC and all of my books are, 
saying there was an upgrade from Ubuntu 20.04 LTS to 22.04.1 LTS.  Like 
an idiot I didn't check it, just clicked do it, it's an LTS upgrade 
after-all.


After several hours it finished.  I opened what was GNC 4.10 FlatPak 
before.  It ain't now, is Version: 4.11, Build ID: Flathub 4.11, 
Finance::Quote: 1.49.


Would not have questioned it any further except that the tab selected 
was the TXF report and it is totally blank.  Refresh does not help, 
tried different from to dates, and basically every option available in 
the report.  Nothing.


Options please.

--
--JEffrey Black M.B.A.

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