Re: [GNC] Forward payments

2018-06-28 Thread Tony Vanson
My thanks to all respondents. It is finally making sense to my befuddled brain. However I have one more spanner in the works. I had already transferred funds from my Current Assets:Bank account to Expenses:Staff. My Bank account has been reconciled. What, if any, process is available to transfer

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread Dale Alspach
I work with an organization that uses QuikBooks. There seems to be a built in mechanism in the report generator in that software that automatically adds a line with name [parent account name] Other which contains the total of the transactions in the parent account not in any subaccount of the

[GNC] GNUCash locks up when opening a Budget

2018-06-28 Thread Jack Lockard
I am having issues with editing my budget. I am running version 2.6.19 of GNUCash. I store the files on a NAS devices so I can access them from both of my two computers. One is a Microsoft Surface Pro 3 and the other is an HP 8530P laptop. I can open the data files on both computers but can

Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] ANNOUNCE: Bugzilla is moving

2018-06-28 Thread Derek Atkins
We should add that these preferences will not get copied over, so after the move you will continue to receive email from the new bz instance. -derek Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos. On June 28, 2018 7:04:26 PM John Ralls wrote: I should have mentioned that this will

Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: Bugzilla is moving

2018-06-28 Thread John Ralls
I should have mentioned that this will result in a ton of bug-change emails going out. If you want to avoid getting those emails (and lighten the load a bit on Gnome's server), please visit https://bugzilla.gnome.org, log in, click "Preferences" at the top of the page, select the email tag, and

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread D via gnucash-user
On June 28, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Geert Janssens wrote: >Op donderdag 28 juni 2018 18:47:18 CEST schreef Stephen M. Butler: [Snip] >> Maybe the financial folks can band together to get the developers to >> enforce no-transactions to a parent account. >I think we should modify the concepts.

[GNC] Bugzilla is moving

2018-06-28 Thread John Ralls
As anyone who's used Bugzilla in the last few months already knows, Gnome has moved their git repositories to a Gitlab instance at gitlab.gnome.org and migrated bug tracking for Gnome projects there as well. They've left Bugzilla alone for non-Gnome projects like GnuCash but they're closing it

Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.2 Released

2018-06-28 Thread Dennis West
I'm sure you like to get feedback from someone with absolutely no problems at all. I was using 2.6.21 on my primary computer and testing 3.1/3.2 on my standby testbed (both on Win 10.1803).  I finally decided to take the plunge and upgraded my primary computer form 2.6.21 to 3.2.  The

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread David Carlson
Is the 'frozen' status which is already in place but seemingly unused supposed to be for this purpose? David C On Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 12:31 PM John Ralls wrote: > > > > On Jun 28, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Geert Janssens > wrote: > > > > Op donderdag 28 juni 2018 18:47:18 CEST schreef Stephen M.

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread John Ralls
> On Jun 28, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Geert Janssens > wrote: > > Op donderdag 28 juni 2018 18:47:18 CEST schreef Stephen M. Butler: >> On 06/27/2018 04:41 PM, DaveC49 wrote: >>> An active non-placeholder account should not have child/subaccounts, >>> although I don't think GnuCash actually

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 06/28/2018 10:10 AM, Geert Janssens wrote: > Op donderdag 28 juni 2018 18:47:18 CEST schreef Stephen M. Butler: >> On 06/27/2018 04:41 PM, DaveC49 wrote: >>> An active non-placeholder account should not have child/subaccounts, >>> although I don't think GnuCash actually prevents this. In this

Re: [GNC] Forward payments

2018-06-28 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 06/28/2018 12:25 AM, Tony Vanson wrote: > Thank you for your quick response. My Staff account is set up as an Expense > not as an Asset. In this particular case would I need to set up a new > account Current Assets:Staff - as a child account under Current Assets? > Cheers I would set it up as

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread Geert Janssens
Op donderdag 28 juni 2018 18:47:18 CEST schreef Stephen M. Butler: > On 06/27/2018 04:41 PM, DaveC49 wrote: > > An active non-placeholder account should not have child/subaccounts, > > although I don't think GnuCash actually prevents this. In this case, the > > parent account total is the sum of

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 06/27/2018 04:41 PM, DaveC49 wrote: > Stephen, > > As an accountant I would prefer to have parent accounts as placeholder > accounts which cannot be the target of transactions directly (this can be > set in the edit Account dialog and marks the account as read only) as the > placeholder total

Re: [GNC] The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread D via gnucash-user
Sorry. I misunderstood, and I appreciate your correction and clarification. On June 28, 2018, at 10:30 AM, John Ralls wrote: David T: No, he didn’t. He said that it’s poor accounting practice and since unlike you and me he’s a licensed accountant we should respect his judgement. He also said

Re: [GNC] The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread John Ralls
David T: No, he didn’t. He said that it’s poor accounting practice and since unlike you and me he’s a licensed accountant we should respect his judgement. He also said explicitly that GnuCash doesn’t enforce that and he correctly described how GnuCash handles placeholder accounts having

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread Mike or Penny Novack
On 6/28/2018 9:39 AM, D via gnucash-user wrote: Before you convert an existing parent account to a placeholder (by checking the placeholder checkbox in the Edit Account dialog), you will need to transfer any transactions into it to an appropriate child/sub-account. My experience is that a

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread D via gnucash-user
David, You've now misstated twice that Placeholder accounts cannot have transactions, and I feel it is important to make it unambiguously clear to anyone reading this thread that there is nothing in Gnucash that prevents placeholder accounts from having transactions. Setting an account as a

Re: [GNC] Forward payments

2018-06-28 Thread Maf. King
On Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:31:08 BST Tony Vanson wrote: > Thank you for your patience > Yes, I guess, in this instance, it could be considered as a type of > temporary loan for her to pay the bills. However, my thoughts are, that if > I change the current classification of Expenses:Staff to

Re: [GNC] Forward payments

2018-06-28 Thread Tony Vanson
Thank you - short and sweet - and confirms that I need an additional asset account. Cheers On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Christopher Lam wrote: > You are effectively doing a split transaction. > > Assets:Bank -$1250 > Assets:Staff +$250 (sundries) > Expenses:Staff +$1000 (salary) > > As the

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread Christopher Lam
Hi Dave It's nice to have input from someone in the know. I have used the placeholder flag to tag accounts which are now closed, e.g. closed bank accounts, loans paid off, old unused expense categories. This is not expressly disallowed by the UI, and the advantage here is the account does

Re: [GNC] Forward payments

2018-06-28 Thread Christopher Lam
You are effectively doing a split transaction. Assets:Bank -$1250 Assets:Staff  +$250 (sundries) Expenses:Staff +$1000 (salary) As the staff member spends appropriately, transfer from Assets:Staff to Expenses:Various C On 28/06/18 18:31, Tony Vanson wrote: Thank you for your patience Yes,

Re: [GNC] Forward payments

2018-06-28 Thread Tony Vanson
Thank you for your patience Yes, I guess, in this instance, it could be considered as a type of temporary loan for her to pay the bills. However, my thoughts are, that if I change the current classification of Expenses:Staff to Current Assets:Staff, when I pay her salary I'm decreasing an Asset

Re: [GNC] Fwd: The two modules

2018-06-28 Thread DaveC49
Stephen, As an accountant I would prefer to have parent accounts as placeholder accounts which cannot be the target of transactions directly (this can be set in the edit Account dialog and marks the account as read only) as the placeholder total should then be the sum of its active child

Re: [GNC] Forward payments

2018-06-28 Thread Maf. King
On Thursday, 28 June 2018 08:46:41 BST Tony Vanson wrote: > Thanks again. Normally the staff salary would be simply paid from my > Current assets:Bank Account to Expenses:Staff as they become due. > Similarly with the other payments from my Current:assets:Bank Account to > the various other

Re: [GNC] Forward payments

2018-06-28 Thread Maf. King
On Thursday, 28 June 2018 08:25:51 BST Tony Vanson wrote: > Thank you for your quick response. My Staff account is set up as an Expense > not as an Asset. In this particular case would I need to set up a new > account Current Assets:Staff - as a child account under Current Assets? > Cheers > Hi

Re: [GNC] Forward payments

2018-06-28 Thread Tony Vanson
Thank you for your quick response. My Staff account is set up as an Expense not as an Asset. In this particular case would I need to set up a new account Current Assets:Staff - as a child account under Current Assets? Cheers On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Maf. King wrote: > On Thursday, 28

Re: [GNC] Forward payments

2018-06-28 Thread Maf. King
On Thursday, 28 June 2018 07:53:02 BST Tony Vanson wrote: > Hi all, > Hopefully someone can advise me how to treat the following problem which > stumps me. > I am using GNUcash 2.6.18 on Windows 10. > I shall be away for several months and have transferred credit from my > Savings account to my

[GNC] Forward payments

2018-06-28 Thread Tony Vanson
Hi all, Hopefully someone can advise me how to treat the following problem which stumps me. I am using GNUcash 2.6.18 on Windows 10. I shall be away for several months and have transferred credit from my Savings account to my Staff account with a lump sum amount for her to pay her Salary,