[GNC] Budgeting

[Peter088]

Hello,

 

I'm a very new user coming over from Quicken.  I'm trying to work out the
budget feature.  In trying to create a budget and following the
instructions, I seem to only have the opportunity to budget for expenses
(accounts) that have at least one transaction in them.  How can I set up a
budget for accounts that have not yet incurred any transactions?


Thanks,

 

Peter

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Re: [GNC] How to Reclassify Invoice Amounts

[Diane Trefethen]

Unless I misunderstand your situation, you are a small business, do 
things pretty simply, and do not have a large accounting dept. If this 
is so, then you don’t need to reclassify anything. The total billed for 
your service(s) is Sales and all the “various expenses related to the 
transaction” are booked as expenses when you enter the bills from YOUR 
vendor(s), if you are on the accrual basis, or when you pay your bills, 
if you are on the cash basis. [Side note: One thing you said worries me. 
“Before I started keeping track of sales by invoice I would just splt 
the transaction.” IF you “split the transaction” by breaking the invoice 
total down into income, fees, shipping, etc, what did you book when you 
paid your bills for those items? Take PayPal. If you used to book $1.75 
of the invoice as PayPal Expenses AND you booked your bills from PayPal 
as PayPal Expenses, then you booked each PayPal fee twice. This would 
badly distort your P statement because you would be showing less 
revenue than you were actually receiving and more expenditures than you 
actually incurred.]


Be forewarned that Adrien’s additional GL posts like
Dr. Expenses:Insurance  $192.15
Cr. Assets:Current Assets:Checking  $192.15
are a mistake if you book insurance, PayPal, and other expenses when you 
enter or pay the bills for those items. Doing it a second time will a) 
throw your checking account out of balance and b) double book your 
expenses which the IRS will NOT be happy about.


There is a misconception that accounting programs can do everything. 
They can’t. There are many things that are better tracked separately 
using spreadsheets and then booked into the accounting program with 
end-of-month GL entries, like pre-paid insurance and accrued interest, 
for example.

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Re: [GNC] Syncronizarion between desktop and mobile versions

[David Cousens]

Alfredo,

The mobile version of GnuCash is not supported or developed by the GnuCash
development team. The recommended way of transferring data is using the OFX
format export from it. See
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GnuCash_and_Mobile_Devices.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] GnuCash methodolgy

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 12/8/2018 1:52 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

The budget module doesn’t enforce zero-sum practices, but it does give you the 
information to use it that way if you want.

What it is not very good at is the ‘envelope’ method of budgeting.

Budgeting should likely be handled outside of GnuCash if you have special 
requirements. While budgeting is financial in nature, it is not accounting.


Actually, not bad at "envelope" as long as you understand that as 
ADVISORY. In other words, will not ENFORCE the budget, and like in real 
envelope budgeting (physical envelopes) you can always decide to adjust, 
taking money out of one envelope and putting it in another.


Note that in the "legal" budget world, can't do that. The treasurer uses 
the budget to determine whether or not can cut the check or if an 
emergency town meeting or meeting of directors needs to be called to 
authorize the change in budgeted amount.


But in neither case is it the "job" of the accounting system to enforce 
the budget.


Michael D Novack
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Re: [GNC] Custom report on Windows

[Stephen M. Butler]

On 12/8/18 1:30 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:

Op vrijdag 7 december 2018 23:35:00 CET schreef Stephen M. Butler:

The custom balance sheet (formatted) report that you folks helped my
configure on Linux, my wife now wants on her Windows 10 box.

  From my research, it appears that both the config-user.scm file (Linux:
$HOME/.config/gnucash/) and the three report files balsheet-fmtd.scm,
balsheet-fmtd.eguile.scm, stylesheet-reports.css (Linux:
$HOME/.local/share/gnucash/) all go to %APPDATA% on Windows 10.  I
copied all four files from my Ubuntu 18.04 box to her Windows 10 box and
put them in %APPDATA% (C:\Users\Wanita\AppData\Roaming\Gnucash\) and
restarted GnuCash on her box.

The reports did not appear in the drop down menu.  Do all four files go
into the same folder on Windows?  Or did I miss-read the location for
one or the other?

I found the trace file in C:\Users\Wanita\AppData\Local\Temp and it has
these messages that seem relevent:


* 14:25:46  WARN  In c-interface.scm:
29: 19 [#]
In unknown file:
 ?: 18 [eval-string "(load (gnc-build-userdata-path
\"balsheet-fmtd.scm\"))\n" ...]
 ?: 17 [call-with-input-string "(load (gnc-build-userdata-path
\"balsheet-fmtd.scm\"))\n" ...]
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
2412: 16 [save-module-excursion #]
In ice-9/eval-string.scm:
44: 15 [read-and-eval # #:lang ...]
37: 14 [lp (load (gnc-build-userdata-path "balsheet-fmtd.scm"))]
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
2412: 13 [save-module-excursion #]
4089: 12 [#]
1734: 11 [%start-stack load-stack ...]
1739: 10 [#]
In unknown file:
 ?: 9 [primitive-load
"C:\\Users\\Wanita\\AppData\\Roaming\\GnuCash\\balsheet-fmtd.scm"]
In ice-9/eval.scm:
   505: 8 [#
(use-modules #)]
In ice-9/psyntax.scm:
1107: 7 [expand-top-sequence ((use-modules (gnucash main))) () ...]
   990: 6 [scan ((use-modules (gnucash main))) () ...]
   279: 5 [scan ((# #) #(syntax-object *unspecified* # #)) () (()) ...]
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
3622: 4 [process-use-modules (((gnucash main)))]
   712: 3 [map # ((#))]
3623: 2 [# (#)]
2903: 1 [resolve-interface (gnucash main) #:select ...]
In unknown file:
 ?: 0 [scm-error misc-error #f "~A ~S" ("no code for module" (gnucash
main)) #f]

ERROR: no code for module (gnucash main)
* 14:25:49  WARN  Could not spawn perl: Failed to execute
child process (No such file or directory)


Does this mean Perl isn't loaded on her box or is there a problem with
gnucash main?

--Steve

Hi Steve,

Perl is not relevant in this context. The error is from the guile code in
gnucash.

The (gnucash main) module no longer exists in gnucash 3.x. All relevant
functionality has been moved elsewhere. So I wonder where the request comes
from to load this module. Is there something like that in the custom report
you are trying to load ?

Regards,

Geert



Yup.  My custom report is a clone of the balsheet equile version and 
main was in that.  I was going to say that it works on Linux and then I 
remembered that I tend to just compile and build without uninstalling 
the prior version.  That must explain why it continues to work on my box.


Made a diff on my code versus the original I cloned from and found that 
main was replaced by utilities.


Report now works on Windows (and on Ubuntu).

Thanks.

One of these days I'll do a clean uninstall and see what is still 
hanging around!


--Steve



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Re: [GNC] How to Reclassify Invoice Amounts

[Adrien Monteleone]

Tom,

When you record the payment of the invoice, record the full amount.

Then either

make a separate expense transaction for the fee balanced against your PayPal 
account/checking account. (depending on if you use the PayPal account and then 
transfer afterwards)

or

edit the payment transaction (from the account register in went into - NOT from 
the A/R register) to reduce the amount actually received, GnuCash will 
calculate an Imbalance split line and you can just change the account on this 
new split to the Bank Fees expense account. Do not change the A/R split.

(Don’t forget to copy the list on all replies so others can benefit from the 
exchange.)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 8, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Tom Balaban  wrote:
> 
> Many thanks, Adrien.
> 
> You have confirmed what I was thinking I had to do.
> 
> The remaining issue I'll have to deal with is PayPal. They automatically 
> withhold their service fee so we never see the full payment. Their statement 
> for reconciliation is net amount.
> 
> Tom
> 
> On December 8, 2018 1:48:09 PM Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
>> You should really speak to a local CPA to get a clear direction and picture 
>> of how you need to handle the various issues particular to your jurisdiction.
>> 
>> Revenue and expenses should not be in the same transaction and expenses 
>> should certainly not be on an invoice except in rare cases where you pass 
>> them on directly with the customer’s knowledge that you do so. (freight and 
>> other logistical expenses are sometimes directly invoiced)
>> 
>> The revenue sharing would likely be handled as a pass-through similar to 
>> sales taxes. You’ll book a transaction to something like a ‘revenue sharing 
>> due’ liability account. But unlike sales taxes, it should be handled 
>> separately and should not appear on the invoice. It might instead be handled 
>> like a dividend payment.
>> 
>> PayPal is just an expense. You can book it each time, or from a monthly 
>> statement similar to how you would record merchant fees for credit card 
>> receipts.
>> 
>> The insurance amount is an expense and should be booked when you ‘use’ it. 
>> Many insurances are usually pre-paid, booked as assets and then expensed 
>> when they are ‘used’. Adjust for your case as needed.
>> 
>> The remainder is just left over after everything else. You generally don’t 
>> record it separately. (unless you book Retained Earnings periodically) You 
>> discover what it is via an Income Statement. (P report)
>> 
>> 
>> Your invoice should result in:
>> 
>> Dr. Assets:Current Assets:Accounts Receivable$225.65
>> Cr. Revenue:Sales$225.65
>> 
>> 
>> The receipt of payment would be:
>> 
>> Dr. Assets:Current Assets:Checking   $225.65
>> Cr. Assets:Current Assets:Accounts Receivable$225.65
>> 
>> 
>> Then you’ll create something similar to each of the following:
>> 
>> Dr. Expenses:Bank Fees   $3.90
>> Cr. Assets:Current Assets:Checking   $3.90
>> 
>> Dr. Expenses:Insurance   $192.15
>> Cr. Assets:Current Assets:Checking   $192.15
>> 
>> or
>> 
>> Dr. Expenses:Insurance   $192.15
>> Cr. Assets:Current Assets:Pre-paid:Insurance $192.15
>> 
>> Dr. Revenue:Sales$13.73
>> Cr. Liabilities:Revenue-Sharing Due  $13.73
>> 
>> When you actually pay your revenue-sharing partner:
>> 
>> Dr. Liabilities:Revenue-Sharing Due
>> Cr. Assets:Current Assets:Checking
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:40 AM, tbalaban  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I run a service organization that contracts with others on per item basis.
>>> Therefore the amount I invoice is much greater than the amount we retain.
>>> 
>>> How do I reclassify the amount invoiced so that the various expenses related
>>> to the transaction are booked but not shown on the invoice?
>>> 
>>> E.G., a service fee is $3.65 for 61 units or $225.65. Of this 1.75% may go
>>> to PayPal, $192.15 will go to our insurance company, 13.73 will go to a
>>> revenue-sharing partner leaving $15.82.
>>> 
>>> Before I started keeping track of sales by invoice I would just splt the
>>> transaction. Bow that I'm using the A/R part of the system, can I do the
>>> same thing but have the customer only see the amount due and not the
>>> underlying splits?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for any guidance you can provide.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash methodolgy

[Flyeta via gnucash-user]

I’ve been testing out Gnucash for an envelope-like system for a bit and so far, 
it seems do-able if your reporting and accounting needs are minimal. I ignore 
the budgeting features altogether and don’t really use reports much. This site 
got me started:
>

Andrew


> On Dec 8, 2018, at 1:52 PM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> The budget module doesn’t enforce zero-sum practices, but it does give you 
> the information to use it that way if you want.
> 
> What it is not very good at is the ‘envelope’ method of budgeting.
> 
> Budgeting should likely be handled outside of GnuCash if you have special 
> requirements. While budgeting is financial in nature, it is not accounting.
> 
> GnuCash can certainly handle your personal finances. I use it daily. I also 
> use the budget module to some effect.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 12:09 PM, ramack  wrote:
>> 
>> I am looking at possibly using GnuCash for my personal finances and
>> budgeting. Before I dive into it, I have question about it's general
>> approach to budgeting.
>> 
>> What I'm looking for is a package that uses a zero-sum approach, Ie, income
>> - budgeted expense = 0. Do any of you users use GnuCash this way?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Transfer column gone?

[Gerry Starnes]

Found John's response in the spam folder. This actually worked when I
zoomed in and approached from the *right*. I hadn't thought of that.

So YAY! It's back. Thank you very much.

Gerry S

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:02 AM John Ralls  wrote:

> To be more clear, you need to either double-click on or click-and-drag the
> right-hand divider for the Transfer Account in the column headers. With the
> column completely collapsed it will appear to be the divider between the
> Description and Reconcile (“R”) columns. Try approaching slowly, one pixel
> at a time, with your mouse from the right and clicking as soon as the
> cursor changes from the pointer to the resize icon. Depending on how steady
> your hand is it might take a few tries. You might try setting the display
> to Scaled>Larger Text in System Preferences>Displays to make the pixels a
> bit bigger.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On Dec 6, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Gerry Starnes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for responding. Nothing happens. Right-clicking gives several
> > options, none of which seem to apply.
> >
> > Gerry S
> >
> > *Gerry Starnes, M.Ed.*
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> > www.GerryStarnes.com
> >
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> > Online classes: The Shamanic Passages Institute <
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> > YouTube: Shamanic Passages 
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:21 AM D  wrote:
> >
> >> Try a double click on the dark line.
> >>
> >> On December 6, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Gerry Starnes 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Resending this request. It really is important that I'm able to see and
> >> change the Transfer account assigned! I have closed and re-opened the
> >> account, Tab is still gone. I've tried to grab and stretch the dark line
> >> that now has replaced the Transfer column, but that only enlarges the R
> >> column. I need some assistance, please.
> >>
> >> Gerry S
> >>
> >> -- Forwarded message -
> >> From: Gerry Starnes 
> >> Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:57 PM
> >> Subject: Transfer column gone?
> >> To: Gnucash User List 
> >>
> >>
> >> Trying to adjust to 3.3 in Mac OS, I was resizing the columns and the
> >> Transfer column in one of my tabs has vanished. How do I get it back?
> >>
> >> Gerry S
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Transfer column gone?

[John Ralls]

Look through your spam folder or visit the list archive; the URL for the latter 
is at the bottom of every email from the list.

To find the file David referred to switch to Finder and select Go>Go to 
Folder... from the menu or press shift-command-g. Type ~/Library/Application 
Support/Gnucash into the box and click "Go". The file is in the books folder 
and is named foo.gnucash.gcm where "foo.gnucash" is the name of your data file. 
Quit GnuCash or switch to another file, drag foo.gnucash.gcm to the trash, and 
reopen foo.gnucash. All of your saved settings for the file will be reset to 
the defaults including the column width on the register but also all of the 
open tabs, window positions, and so on.

If you're feeling adventurous you can edit foo.gnucash.scm. TextEdit will work 
fine, just be sure to save as plain text, not rich text. Look for 
"transfer_width=0" and change it to "transfer_width=206".

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Dec 8, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Gerry Starnes  wrote:
> 
> As far as I know, I only got one response... to double-click on the dark
> column line. Nothing happened with that.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 3:57 PM David Carlson 
> wrote:
> 
>> Gerry,
>> 
>> Which of the three responses was the only one you tried?
>> 
>> I personally think John Ralls' has the best chance of working, but as he
>> stated it is very tricky to get the mouse focus into precisely the right
>> spot.
>> 
>> If that fails there is another way that requires deleting a file that also
>> contains info about all your open Gnucash windows and a few other details
>> that might be hard to replace.
>> 
>> I hope I caught all the changes the Android auto edit did to my reply.
>> 
>> David C
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 1:54 PM Gerry Starnes > 
>>> I'm resending as the only response I got did not work. I'm having
>>> difficulty believing that I am the only person who has encountered this
>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> Gerry S
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:27 AM Gerry Starnes 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Thank you for responding. Nothing happens. Right-clicking gives several
 options, none of which seem to apply.
 
 Gerry S
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:21 AM D  wrote:
 
> Try a double click on the dark line.
> 
> On December 6, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Gerry Starnes >>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Resending this request. It really is important that I'm able to see and
> change the Transfer account assigned! I have closed and re-opened the
> account, Tab is still gone. I've tried to grab and stretch the dark
>>> line
> that now has replaced the Transfer column, but that only enlarges the R
> column. I need some assistance, please.
> 
> Gerry S
> 
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Gerry Starnes 
> Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:57 PM
> Subject: Transfer column gone?
> To: Gnucash User List 
> 
> 
> Trying to adjust to 3.3 in Mac OS, I was resizing the columns and the
> Transfer column in one of my tabs has vanished. How do I get it back?
> 
> Gerry S
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Transfer column gone?

[David Carlson]

That is odd, because I also see others from John Ralls and myself, tho mine
was not so satisfactory.

I cannot see on this screen how to search the history to find John Ralls'
reply, so perhaps someone else can tell us where to search for history.

David C

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 4:09 PM Gerry Starnes  wrote:

> As far as I know, I only got one response... to double-click on the dark
> column line. Nothing happened with that.
>
> Gerry
>
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 3:57 PM David Carlson 
> wrote:
>
>> Gerry,
>>
>> Which of the three responses was the only one you tried?
>>
>> I personally think John Ralls' has the best chance of working, but as he
>> stated it is very tricky to get the mouse focus into precisely the right
>> spot.
>>
>> If that fails there is another way that requires deleting a file that
>> also contains info about all your open Gnucash windows and a few other
>> details that might be hard to replace.
>>
>> I hope I caught all the changes the Android auto edit did to my reply.
>>
>> David C
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 1:54 PM Gerry Starnes >
>>> I'm resending as the only response I got did not work. I'm having
>>> difficulty believing that I am the only person who has encountered this
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> Gerry S
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:27 AM Gerry Starnes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Thank you for responding. Nothing happens. Right-clicking gives several
>>> > options, none of which seem to apply.
>>> >
>>> > Gerry S
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:21 AM D  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Try a double click on the dark line.
>>> >>
>>> >> On December 6, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Gerry Starnes <
>>> gerrystar...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Resending this request. It really is important that I'm able to see
>>> and
>>> >> change the Transfer account assigned! I have closed and re-opened the
>>> >> account, Tab is still gone. I've tried to grab and stretch the dark
>>> line
>>> >> that now has replaced the Transfer column, but that only enlarges the
>>> R
>>> >> column. I need some assistance, please.
>>> >>
>>> >> Gerry S
>>> >>
>>> >> -- Forwarded message -
>>> >> From: Gerry Starnes 
>>> >> Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:57 PM
>>> >> Subject: Transfer column gone?
>>> >> To: Gnucash User List 
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Trying to adjust to 3.3 in Mac OS, I was resizing the columns and the
>>> >> Transfer column in one of my tabs has vanished. How do I get it back?
>>> >>
>>> >> Gerry S
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Transfer column gone?

[Gerry Starnes]

As far as I know, I only got one response... to double-click on the dark
column line. Nothing happened with that.

Gerry

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 3:57 PM David Carlson 
wrote:

> Gerry,
>
> Which of the three responses was the only one you tried?
>
> I personally think John Ralls' has the best chance of working, but as he
> stated it is very tricky to get the mouse focus into precisely the right
> spot.
>
> If that fails there is another way that requires deleting a file that also
> contains info about all your open Gnucash windows and a few other details
> that might be hard to replace.
>
> I hope I caught all the changes the Android auto edit did to my reply.
>
> David C
>
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 1:54 PM Gerry Starnes 
>> I'm resending as the only response I got did not work. I'm having
>> difficulty believing that I am the only person who has encountered this
>> issue.
>>
>> Gerry S
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:27 AM Gerry Starnes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thank you for responding. Nothing happens. Right-clicking gives several
>> > options, none of which seem to apply.
>> >
>> > Gerry S
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:21 AM D  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Try a double click on the dark line.
>> >>
>> >> On December 6, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Gerry Starnes > >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Resending this request. It really is important that I'm able to see and
>> >> change the Transfer account assigned! I have closed and re-opened the
>> >> account, Tab is still gone. I've tried to grab and stretch the dark
>> line
>> >> that now has replaced the Transfer column, but that only enlarges the R
>> >> column. I need some assistance, please.
>> >>
>> >> Gerry S
>> >>
>> >> -- Forwarded message -
>> >> From: Gerry Starnes 
>> >> Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:57 PM
>> >> Subject: Transfer column gone?
>> >> To: Gnucash User List 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Trying to adjust to 3.3 in Mac OS, I was resizing the columns and the
>> >> Transfer column in one of my tabs has vanished. How do I get it back?
>> >>
>> >> Gerry S
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Transfer column gone?

[David Carlson]

Gerry,

Which of the three responses was the only one you tried?

I personally think John Ralls' has the best chance of working, but as he
stated it is very tricky to get the mouse focus into precisely the right
spot.

If that fails there is another way that requires deleting a file that also
contains info about all your open Gnucash windows and a few other details
that might be hard to replace.

I hope I caught all the changes the Android auto edit did to my reply.

David C

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 1:54 PM Gerry Starnes  I'm resending as the only response I got did not work. I'm having
> difficulty believing that I am the only person who has encountered this
> issue.
>
> Gerry S
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:27 AM Gerry Starnes 
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for responding. Nothing happens. Right-clicking gives several
> > options, none of which seem to apply.
> >
> > Gerry S
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:21 AM D  wrote:
> >
> >> Try a double click on the dark line.
> >>
> >> On December 6, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Gerry Starnes 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Resending this request. It really is important that I'm able to see and
> >> change the Transfer account assigned! I have closed and re-opened the
> >> account, Tab is still gone. I've tried to grab and stretch the dark line
> >> that now has replaced the Transfer column, but that only enlarges the R
> >> column. I need some assistance, please.
> >>
> >> Gerry S
> >>
> >> -- Forwarded message -
> >> From: Gerry Starnes 
> >> Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:57 PM
> >> Subject: Transfer column gone?
> >> To: Gnucash User List 
> >>
> >>
> >> Trying to adjust to 3.3 in Mac OS, I was resizing the columns and the
> >> Transfer column in one of my tabs has vanished. How do I get it back?
> >>
> >> Gerry S
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Re: [GNC] GNU crashes when any Report is selected

[karndale--- via gnucash-user]

Only change other than routine updates was an upgrade from MS Office 2010 to 
Office 2019. This of course includes Access. 


Sent from my iPhone.

> On 8 Dec 2018, at 9:25 pm, David Carlson  wrote:
> 
> I did forget to mention that I use Gnucash mostly in Ubuntu 16.04 with 
> occasional forays into Windows 7 and rare forays into Windows 10.
> 
> David C 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 3:21 PM David Carlson > wrote:
>> Arnie,
>> 
>> Did you get a Windows update or have any other significant change to your 
>> computer?
>> 
>> Release 2.6.19 itself has not changed, and various 2.6.x releases are still 
>> working for me.
>> 
>> David C 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 12:10 PM Arnie Reeves via gnucash-user 
>>> >> I use Windows 10 with GNUCash 2.6.19 for home accounting. After 11 months of
>>> perfect use, all reports suddenly fail to open and selecting any report,
>>> including samples or one of my many customised reports (new one for each
>>> month) causes the program to crash. Anyone aware of a fix, or maybe an
>>> upgrade to version 3.3 will solve the problem? I've resisted the update due
>>> to reading many reports of problems with 3.3 and so far 2.2.19 has been
>>> fine. All reports worked fine at last month's home accounting. I only update
>>> at the end of each month.
>>> Thanks, Arnie.
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Re: [GNC] GNU crashes when any Report is selected

[David Carlson]

I did forget to mention that I use Gnucash mostly in Ubuntu 16.04 with
occasional forays into Windows 7 and rare forays into Windows 10.

David C

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 3:21 PM David Carlson  Arnie,
>
> Did you get a Windows update or have any other significant change to your
> computer?
>
> Release 2.6.19 itself has not changed, and various 2.6.x releases are
> still working for me.
>
> David C
>
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 12:10 PM Arnie Reeves via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org wrote:
>
>> I use Windows 10 with GNUCash 2.6.19 for home accounting. After 11 months
>> of
>> perfect use, all reports suddenly fail to open and selecting any report,
>> including samples or one of my many customised reports (new one for each
>> month) causes the program to crash. Anyone aware of a fix, or maybe an
>> upgrade to version 3.3 will solve the problem? I've resisted the update
>> due
>> to reading many reports of problems with 3.3 and so far 2.2.19 has been
>> fine. All reports worked fine at last month's home accounting. I only
>> update
>> at the end of each month.
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Re: [GNC] GNU crashes when any Report is selected

[David Carlson]

Arnie,

Did you get a Windows update or have any other significant change to your
computer?

Release 2.6.19 itself has not changed, and various 2.6.x releases are still
working for me.

David C

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 12:10 PM Arnie Reeves via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org wrote:

> I use Windows 10 with GNUCash 2.6.19 for home accounting. After 11 months
> of
> perfect use, all reports suddenly fail to open and selecting any report,
> including samples or one of my many customised reports (new one for each
> month) causes the program to crash. Anyone aware of a fix, or maybe an
> upgrade to version 3.3 will solve the problem? I've resisted the update due
> to reading many reports of problems with 3.3 and so far 2.2.19 has been
> fine. All reports worked fine at last month's home accounting. I only
> update
> at the end of each month.
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Transfer column gone?

[Gerry Starnes]

I'm resending as the only response I got did not work. I'm having
difficulty believing that I am the only person who has encountered this
issue.

Gerry S

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:27 AM Gerry Starnes 
wrote:

> Thank you for responding. Nothing happens. Right-clicking gives several
> options, none of which seem to apply.
>
> Gerry S
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 10:21 AM D  wrote:
>
>> Try a double click on the dark line.
>>
>> On December 6, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Gerry Starnes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Resending this request. It really is important that I'm able to see and
>> change the Transfer account assigned! I have closed and re-opened the
>> account, Tab is still gone. I've tried to grab and stretch the dark line
>> that now has replaced the Transfer column, but that only enlarges the R
>> column. I need some assistance, please.
>>
>> Gerry S
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Gerry Starnes 
>> Date: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:57 PM
>> Subject: Transfer column gone?
>> To: Gnucash User List 
>>
>>
>> Trying to adjust to 3.3 in Mac OS, I was resizing the columns and the
>> Transfer column in one of my tabs has vanished. How do I get it back?
>>
>> Gerry S
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Re: [GNC] How to Reclassify Invoice Amounts

[Adrien Monteleone]

You should really speak to a local CPA to get a clear direction and picture of 
how you need to handle the various issues particular to your jurisdiction.

Revenue and expenses should not be in the same transaction and expenses should 
certainly not be on an invoice except in rare cases where you pass them on 
directly with the customer’s knowledge that you do so. (freight and other 
logistical expenses are sometimes directly invoiced)

The revenue sharing would likely be handled as a pass-through similar to sales 
taxes. You’ll book a transaction to something like a ‘revenue sharing due’ 
liability account. But unlike sales taxes, it should be handled separately and 
should not appear on the invoice. It might instead be handled like a dividend 
payment.

PayPal is just an expense. You can book it each time, or from a monthly 
statement similar to how you would record merchant fees for credit card 
receipts.

The insurance amount is an expense and should be booked when you ‘use’ it. Many 
insurances are usually pre-paid, booked as assets and then expensed when they 
are ‘used’. Adjust for your case as needed.

The remainder is just left over after everything else. You generally don’t 
record it separately. (unless you book Retained Earnings periodically) You 
discover what it is via an Income Statement. (P report)


Your invoice should result in:

Dr. Assets:Current Assets:Accounts Receivable   $225.65
Cr. Revenue:Sales   $225.65


The receipt of payment would be:

Dr. Assets:Current Assets:Checking  $225.65
Cr. Assets:Current Assets:Accounts Receivable   $225.65


Then you’ll create something similar to each of the following:

Dr. Expenses:Bank Fees  $3.90
Cr. Assets:Current Assets:Checking  $3.90

Dr. Expenses:Insurance  $192.15
Cr. Assets:Current Assets:Checking  $192.15

or

Dr. Expenses:Insurance  $192.15
Cr. Assets:Current Assets:Pre-paid:Insurance$192.15

Dr. Revenue:Sales   $13.73
Cr. Liabilities:Revenue-Sharing Due $13.73

When you actually pay your revenue-sharing partner:

Dr. Liabilities:Revenue-Sharing Due
Cr. Assets:Current Assets:Checking

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:40 AM, tbalaban  wrote:
> 
> I run a service organization that contracts with others on per item basis.
> Therefore the amount I invoice is much greater than the amount we retain. 
> 
> How do I reclassify the amount invoiced so that the various expenses related
> to the transaction are booked but not shown on the invoice?
> 
> E.G., a service fee is $3.65 for 61 units or $225.65. Of this 1.75% may go
> to PayPal, $192.15 will go to our insurance company, 13.73 will go to a
> revenue-sharing partner leaving $15.82.
> 
> Before I started keeping track of sales by invoice I would just splt the
> transaction. Bow that I'm using the A/R part of the system, can I do the
> same thing but have the customer only see the amount due and not the
> underlying splits?
> 
> Many thanks for any guidance you can provide.
> 
> 
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[GNC] GnuCash methodolgy

[ramack]

I am looking at possibly using GnuCash for my personal finances and
budgeting. Before I dive into it, I have question about it's general
approach to budgeting.

What I'm looking for is a package that uses a zero-sum approach, Ie, income
- budgeted expense = 0. Do any of you users use GnuCash this way?

Thanks,



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[GNC] GNU crashes when any Report is selected

[Arnie Reeves via gnucash-user]

I use Windows 10 with GNUCash 2.6.19 for home accounting. After 11 months of
perfect use, all reports suddenly fail to open and selecting any report,
including samples or one of my many customised reports (new one for each
month) causes the program to crash. Anyone aware of a fix, or maybe an
upgrade to version 3.3 will solve the problem? I've resisted the update due
to reading many reports of problems with 3.3 and so far 2.2.19 has been
fine. All reports worked fine at last month's home accounting. I only update
at the end of each month.
Thanks, Arnie.
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[GNC] How to Reclassify Invoice Amounts

[tbalaban]

I run a service organization that contracts with others on per item basis.
Therefore the amount I invoice is much greater than the amount we retain. 

How do I reclassify the amount invoiced so that the various expenses related
to the transaction are booked but not shown on the invoice?

E.G., a service fee is $3.65 for 61 units or $225.65. Of this 1.75% may go
to PayPal, $192.15 will go to our insurance company, 13.73 will go to a
revenue-sharing partner leaving $15.82.

Before I started keeping track of sales by invoice I would just splt the
transaction. Bow that I'm using the A/R part of the system, can I do the
same thing but have the customer only see the amount due and not the
underlying splits?

Many thanks for any guidance you can provide.



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Re: [GNC] Custom report on Windows

[Geert Janssens]

Op vrijdag 7 december 2018 23:35:00 CET schreef Stephen M. Butler:
> The custom balance sheet (formatted) report that you folks helped my
> configure on Linux, my wife now wants on her Windows 10 box.
> 
>  From my research, it appears that both the config-user.scm file (Linux:
> $HOME/.config/gnucash/) and the three report files balsheet-fmtd.scm,
> balsheet-fmtd.eguile.scm, stylesheet-reports.css (Linux:
> $HOME/.local/share/gnucash/) all go to %APPDATA% on Windows 10.  I
> copied all four files from my Ubuntu 18.04 box to her Windows 10 box and
> put them in %APPDATA% (C:\Users\Wanita\AppData\Roaming\Gnucash\) and
> restarted GnuCash on her box.
> 
> The reports did not appear in the drop down menu.  Do all four files go
> into the same folder on Windows?  Or did I miss-read the location for
> one or the other?
> 
> I found the trace file in C:\Users\Wanita\AppData\Local\Temp and it has
> these messages that seem relevent:
> 
> 
> * 14:25:46  WARN  In c-interface.scm:
>29: 19 [#]
> In unknown file:
> ?: 18 [eval-string "(load (gnc-build-userdata-path
> \"balsheet-fmtd.scm\"))\n" ...]
> ?: 17 [call-with-input-string "(load (gnc-build-userdata-path
> \"balsheet-fmtd.scm\"))\n" ...]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 2412: 16 [save-module-excursion # ice-9/eval-string.scm:65:9 ()>]
> In ice-9/eval-string.scm:
>44: 15 [read-and-eval # #:lang ...]
>37: 14 [lp (load (gnc-build-userdata-path "balsheet-fmtd.scm"))]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 2412: 13 [save-module-excursion # ice-9/boot-9.scm:4084:3 ()>]
> 4089: 12 [#]
> 1734: 11 [%start-stack load-stack ...]
> 1739: 10 [#]
> In unknown file:
> ?: 9 [primitive-load
> "C:\\Users\\Wanita\\AppData\\Roaming\\GnuCash\\balsheet-fmtd.scm"]
> In ice-9/eval.scm:
>   505: 8 [#
> (use-modules #)]
> In ice-9/psyntax.scm:
> 1107: 7 [expand-top-sequence ((use-modules (gnucash main))) () ...]
>   990: 6 [scan ((use-modules (gnucash main))) () ...]
>   279: 5 [scan ((# #) #(syntax-object *unspecified* # #)) () (()) ...]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 3622: 4 [process-use-modules (((gnucash main)))]
>   712: 3 [map # (mif-args)> ((#))]
> 3623: 2 [# (#)]
> 2903: 1 [resolve-interface (gnucash main) #:select ...]
> In unknown file:
> ?: 0 [scm-error misc-error #f "~A ~S" ("no code for module" (gnucash
> main)) #f]
> 
> ERROR: no code for module (gnucash main)
> * 14:25:49  WARN  Could not spawn perl: Failed to execute
> child process (No such file or directory)
> 
> 
> Does this mean Perl isn't loaded on her box or is there a problem with
> gnucash main?
> 
> --Steve

Hi Steve,

Perl is not relevant in this context. The error is from the guile code in 
gnucash.

The (gnucash main) module no longer exists in gnucash 3.x. All relevant 
functionality has been moved elsewhere. So I wonder where the request comes 
from to load this module. Is there something like that in the custom report 
you are trying to load ?

Regards,

Geert


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