[GNC] what is the purpose of the .gca file

2020-02-05 Thread Bostjan Vilfan
Hello,
In my GnuCash folder I have three types of files: one .gca file, several
.gnucash files, and lots of .log files. I have been able to find
descriptions of the .gnucash and .log files; but I haven't found any
description of the .gca file. Can anyone help?
Regards,
bostjanv
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[GNC] Apple Card exports

2020-02-05 Thread Keith Bellairs
There is a rumor that OFX exports are planned. 

The option to export transactions will show up when a monthly statement is 
available. The ‌Apple Card‌ transactions are exported in a Share Sheet format 
with a CSV document, but in the future, Apple also plans to add an OFX option. 



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Re: [GNC] How to upgrade from GC 3.7 to 3.8?

2020-02-05 Thread David Cousens
Fran 

On WIndow, the installer will ask you during the process if you want to
uninstall the previous version before installing the new version.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] How to upgrade from GC 3.7 to 3.8?

2020-02-05 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 I''m running Windows 10 so if anyone else is running the same OS let me hear 
if I should unstall GC 3.7 before installing 3.8 or just install 3.8 on top of 
3.7.Thanks

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 08:22:54 PM EST, Adrien Monteleone 
 wrote:  
 
 OS?

I’ve had some issues with linux but that was building from scratch with a very 
new version on an older distro. A regular install shouldn’t be an issue.

On Mac I’ve had no problems simply installing the newer version. MacOS asks if 
you want to overwrite or keep both.

I’ve never used Gnucash on Windows, so I can’t help there.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 5, 2020 w6d36, at 6:10 PM, Fran_3 via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just realized I'm about to do a giant import and the advice here is to do it 
> with v3.8.
> Should I uninstall gnuCash first or just download and install 3.8 on top of 
> 3.7?
> Thanks.


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Re: [GNC] How to upgrade from GC 3.7 to 3.8?

2020-02-05 Thread David Cousens
Adrien, Fran,

The windows installer appears remove a previous version during installation
AFAIK from when I upgrade GnuCash on my wife's Windows 10 notebook. 

Linux Mint/Ubuntu/Debian generally install to /usr/local from the
distribution repositories but usually to get the latest version you need to
build from source. You can usually uninstall from the desktop menu Software
Manager  in most cases or use "sudo apt remove gnucash" to uninstall from a
terminal. if you have built GnuCash and retained the source and build
dirctories then "sudo make uninstall " issued from the build directory will
normally remove the current installation. The wiki on Building GnuCash for
Linux has a section on uninstalling. which describes how to manually remove
all directories (sudo/admin privileges required). Usually a good idea to
uninstall before installing a new version to ensure all libraries are
replaced on Linux.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Is there a way to change the currency of an account?

2020-02-05 Thread aegross
Tommy, this worked brilliantly!

Thank you!

Andrew 



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Re: [GNC] How to upgrade from GC 3.7 to 3.8?

2020-02-05 Thread Adrien Monteleone
OS?

I’ve had some issues with linux but that was building from scratch with a very 
new version on an older distro. A regular install shouldn’t be an issue.

On Mac I’ve had no problems simply installing the newer version. MacOS asks if 
you want to overwrite or keep both.

I’ve never used Gnucash on Windows, so I can’t help there.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 5, 2020 w6d36, at 6:10 PM, Fran_3 via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just realized I'm about to do a giant import and the advice here is to do it 
> with v3.8.
> Should I uninstall gnuCash first or just download and install 3.8 on top of 
> 3.7?
> Thanks.


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[GNC] How to upgrade from GC 3.7 to 3.8?

2020-02-05 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
Just realized I'm about to do a giant import and the advice here is to do it 
with v3.8.
Should I uninstall gnuCash first or just download and install 3.8 on top of 3.7?
Thanks.
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Re: [GNC] Importing Checking Transactions: Expense Acct Assignment Question.

2020-02-05 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 Derek, your answer confirmed Adrian's post and both gave me the confident to 
experiment today. I'll pull the trigger on the big import tomorrow and report 
back.
On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 09:18:35 AM EST, Derek Atkins 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi,

Fran_3 via gnucash-user  writes:

> Will assigning the Expense Account during import conflict with later
> creating a bill and then assigning a checking transaction as payment
> for that bill? (Since the Expense Account is normally assigned during
> creation of the bill... so this will be kind of backwards... I think)
> I hope I made the issue and question clear. At least I gave it my best shot 
> :-)

The short answer is "yes".  If you import the check into Bank and
always assign the "correct" Expense account, then you will bypass the
Bill completely.  For Vendors that have a Bill you *MUST* assign the
payment to AP, not the appropriate Expense.

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Re: [GNC] Importing Checking Transactions: Expense Acct Assignment Question.

2020-02-05 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 Thank you Adrien. Your answer was very helpful. I experimented today and hope 
to do the big import tomorrow. Wish me luck :-)

On Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 12:17:54 PM EST, Adrien Monteleone 
 wrote:  
 
 It’s okay to not give a final “thanks” message, but it is helpful to inform 
the list that the particular advice either did or did not answer the question 
or help solve the problem. (or even help lead you to the solution and what that 
might have turned out to be) This way, future readers of the archive aren’t 
left in limbo as to how the thread resolved in case they have a similar 
question. Sometimes, a simple “thanks, that worked” is sufficient and 
acceptable. (with the ’that worked’ part being more important than the ’thanks’ 
part)

As for the mechanics of the import, it should allow you to train the importer 
for each payee. Thus the vendors you pay outright without raising bills would 
be assigned to a relevant expense account, but vendors you do raise bills for 
would get a different assignment, most likely Accounts Payable, then after the 
import, assign each of those as payment individually as appropriate to the 
relevant vendor invoices. (normally you don’t make manual entries against AP, 
noted in another thread) Be certain to use the “Assign as payment” feature from 
the checking register as a safety measure. (I’m not even sure you can do it 
from AP)

It is highly recommended when first starting an import workflow to do so with 
just a few transactions at a time, then move up to perhaps an entire month, 
then you can move up to a larger batch. Some veterans on this list always 
recommend to do one month at a time no matter what, check over everything 
carefully, reconcile, then move to the next month.

As you do each import, you are refining the training of the importer so you 
have to do less and less work each time making assignments or correcting 
mismatched imports. (you don’t want to jump head first and then have to review 
hundreds or thousands of transactions for errors or improper account 
assignments, and then you miss the benefit of training the importer)

You might want to start with just importing basic expenses and get some of 
those payees trained and make sure the importer matches subsequent imports 
correctly. Then move on to the business payments that need to be assigned. All 
of them should go to AP and each subsequent import should do this correctly.

As you move through the process (working from oldest imports to current day) 
the importer will improve and the entire process will be faster with less 
manual input. Future imports will be even smoother.

Finally, be certain to use the latest v3.8 as older versions had their 
individual bugs and quirks with the importer. (there might still be some 
outstanding to be fixed or improved, but the best state of the feature is in 
the current version)

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 4, 2020 w6d35, at 10:55 AM, Fran_3 via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> We have two types of vendors...1 - Vendors for which we receive & post bills2 
> - Vendors for which we just write a check and make an entry into the checking 
> account
> Normally...In Case 1, we post bills first, assign an expense account, and 
> later pay the bill. The expense account is assigned when we create the bill.
> In Case 2 we assign the Expense Account when entering the transaction into 
> the check register.
> Now...- We are about to import months of checking transactions.
> - Later we will Post Bills for any of those transactions for which we receive 
> bills.
> - Then we will Apply the associated checking transactions as payments for the 
> associated vendor Bills.
> 
> Here is the question:
> When we import the checking transactions I'm guessing we can assign the 
> appropriate Expense Account during that import.
> 
> Will assigning the Expense Account during import conflict with later creating 
> a bill and then assigning a checking transaction as payment for that bill? 
> (Since the Expense Account is normally assigned during creation of the 
> bill... so this will be kind of backwards... I think)
> I hope I made the issue and question clear. At least I gave it my best shot 
> :-)
> Thanks for any help.
> PS - I've recently posted a number of questions leading up to this big import 
> and when given answers have chosen not to send out a "Thank You" response. 
> I've done this in order to not needlessly clog up everybody's inbox. But, I 
> do want to say "Thank You" now for your assistance. I hope my choice of not 
> sending out a simple "Thank You" is appropriate protocol but if not let me 
> know as the members here are just terrific and very helpful.


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Re: [GNC] importing account info

2020-02-05 Thread David Cousens
Alan,

Your screenshot is not attaching correctly, it is only 2 bytes. If you can
attach it as a jpg or png file it may come through.

>From what version of GnuCash did you upgrade to V3.8 ? The importer was
completely rewritten in the upgrade from 2.6.x to V3.  I had to completely
retrain the Bayesian matching in the import matcher after the transition. I
don't fully understand why as the information is stored in the xml datafile.
Geert maybe able to explain what caused this. I think there may have been
some changes to the parsing of tokens and maybe storage, but I am not sure
of this.

If the import matcher is incorrectly assigning an account, it is important
that it is corrected in the import matcher and not later in the account
register after importing as only assignments made during the import process
are used in defining the import matcher database of tokenized information
from the description field. That information is only stored when you
complete the import process after assigning any unassigned transfer accounts
and correcting any mistakes the automatic process made. At present no use is
made of the information in existing transactions unless they have passed
through the importer.

I don't import QFX files but I do import OFX files where the structre is
similar. After the initial problem going from 2.6.19 to 3.0 and retraining
the matcher by importing data a month at a time and checking the account
assignments carefully before completing the import, my original account
assignments have largely been restored. Double clicking on a transaction in
the import matcher window will bring up the account asiignment dialog.

It is also possible to edit the information used for the matching process.
If incorrect information has been stored there it can take some time and
several imports to the same account to correct the information.
Tools->Import Map Editor. You may need to exercise a great deal of caution
and have a good idea of how the bayesian matching process works to
successfully edit the data. So far I have looke at it but have not tried it.
It usues combinations of the tokenized information to produce the overall
weighting for a specific transfer account to be assigned. If it is only a
single account that is causing a problem it should be possible to find the
data which is causing the wrong assignment and delete it. AFAIK the Import
Map Editor has not been documented yet.  I have been upgrading some of the
import process documentation but  haven't got to this as yet and I am not at
all familiar with the code in this area.

I can't see what screen it is that is coming up but whether the account
picker dialog or  a list of the possible matches is displayed depends upon
the state of the checkboxes labelle"A", "U" and "R" and it sounds like it
was the latter nad not the former. 

If the A checkbox is checked, the transaction has been identified as not
matching an existing transaction and flagged for import. It may have either
a grren or gold background color. If green the matcher has assigned a
transfer account and you will need to check it has made a correct choice. If
gold it has not been able to match a transfer account and you will need to
assign a transfer account to it. By default it is assigned to an Imbalance
account if you do not assign an account before completing the import.
IDouble clicking the transaction will bring up the account picker dialog. It
is important for the training of the Bayesian match picker that the transfer
account be assigned at this point. The dialog allows you to create new
accounts if this should be necessary

If the R checkbox is checked it has matched an existing transaction with the
transaction to be imported and flagged it not to be imported and it will
usually have a green background. The bar code displayed will give some idea
of the quality of the match. Here double clicking will display the data for
the imported transaction and the best matched transaction and any other
close matches. You can select another of the close matches if it is the
correct transaction to match. At this point you might decide that the import
matcher has got it wrong in this case and the transaction needs to be
imported as it isn't a match to any existing transaction. Cancel out of the
display of matching transactions and click on the A checkbox to flag it for
import. GnuCash will then attempt to assign a transfer account and the
background will change to either green or gold. Again you can now accept or
reject the assigned account or change it as above

If the U checkbox is checked.it usually means any attempt at a match to any
existing transaction had some limited success but not enough to mark the
transaction as a match. It will have a red/pink background to indicate that
the transaction requires some manual decision.  A double click will bring up
the dialog displaying the matching existing transaction information. You can
select one of the matches if it is appropriate then accept it 

Re: [GNC] Duplicate emails in GnuCash Digests

2020-02-05 Thread Chris Good


> On 5 Feb 2020, at 6:11 AM, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> This is the first I've heard of this issue.
> I will take a look at it, but I do not have time immediately to do so.
> Have you seen any pattern in the duplication?  Certain people, or
> certain sources?  Maybe someone who uses nabble or gmane?
> Thanks for reporting.
> -derek
> 
> "Chris Good"  writes:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> For quite a while now (at least several months), there have duplicated
>> emails in the GnuCash digests.
>> For instance, in the email below message 3 is a duplicate of 2, and 6 is a
>> duplicate of 5.
>> 
>> It doesn't seem to happen all the time but I often notice this for emails
>> from D, Geert and John Ralls, although John Ralls' message 4 here is not
>> duplicated.
>> 
>> I'd really appreciate it if someone could fix this.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Chris Good

Hi Derek,

Thanks for looking at this.
Unfortunately, the only thing I can see in common, is that the duplicates seem 
to be often from the same people. Most often, D & Geert.

Regards, Chris Good
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Re: [GNC] Is there a way to change the currency of an account?

2020-02-05 Thread Tommy Trussell
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 12:20 AM aegross  wrote:

> I just did a similar fat fingering. I associated the *wrong security* for
> an
> account after entering the transaction history -- less than 20
> transactions.
> But thought I would ask -- since this thread is a couple of years old...
> want to confirm that the attribute cannot be edited.
>

I might be wrong, but if you don't want to re-type the transactions you
might try this

0) make a backup of your data just in case I'm wrong

1) Create a new security account with the correct currency/security

2) Delete the account with the transaction history in it

3) GnuCash will ask you where you want the transactions -- tell it to put
the transactions in the new account

4) If this does not "re-parent" the transactions to the correct
currency/security, exit GnuCash, restore the backed-up data file and go to
"plan B," which I presume means deleting and retyping the transactions.

(Alternatively you can just delete the account and tell GnuCash to delete
the transactions, and then re-type them.)


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Not Working

2020-02-05 Thread Adrien Monteleone
1. Go to /Applications (or wherever you installed GnuCash)
2. Right-click Gnucash.app and choose ‘Open’
3. Confirm in the security dialog that comes up that yes, you want to open 
Gnucash.app
4. Gnucash.app *should* open at this point, if not just a regular 
double-left-click should work.
5. Subsequent opens can happen from the dock.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 4, 2020 w6d35, at 11:56 AM, Alexandra Lucas via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> HI,
> I'm having trouble getting gnucash to open on my Mac that has the latest IOS 
> - Catalina 10.15.3.
> I click the icon and it bounces like it's going to open but never does and 
> just disappears. 
> Can you help?
> Thank you!
> 
> Alex

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[GNC] importing account info

2020-02-05 Thread Alan Schold
I see several importing questions, but none speak to this problem. I 
hope this explanation is not too wordy.


I download activity weekly from several trading accounts. I save them 
temporarily as .qfx files which I then import into the same accounts in 
GnuCash. This has worked perfectly until recently when I upgraded to 
3.8. Since then GnuCash sees each import as belonging to some unrelated 
issue in my wife’s account. For each account I get the screen which I 
attached. Neither of the accounts referenced are the from/to account. If 
I choose “yes”, the same screen returns. If I choose “no”, one 
transaction is listed. This repeats for each transaction. I cannot get 
out of the process until all transactions are listed; then I can cancel 
(because the information will be saved to the wrong account & it is 
incomplete). I have tried deleting the incorrect account, but the 
program just finds another one. I can’t think of anything else I’ve done 
differently.



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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Not Working

2020-02-05 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi,

Alexandra Lucas via gnucash-user  writes:

> HI,
> I'm having trouble getting gnucash to open on my Mac that has the
> latest IOS - Catalina 10.15.3.
> I click the icon and it bounces like it's going to open but never does
> and just disappears. 
> Can you help?
> Thank you!

What version of GnuCash?

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Re: [GNC] Importing Checking Transactions: Expense Acct Assignment Question.

2020-02-05 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi,

Fran_3 via gnucash-user  writes:

> Will assigning the Expense Account during import conflict with later
> creating a bill and then assigning a checking transaction as payment
> for that bill? (Since the Expense Account is normally assigned during
> creation of the bill... so this will be kind of backwards... I think)
> I hope I made the issue and question clear. At least I gave it my best shot 
> :-)

The short answer is "yes".  If you import the check into Bank and
always assign the "correct" Expense account, then you will bypass the
Bill completely.   For Vendors that have a Bill you *MUST* assign the
payment to AP, not the appropriate Expense.

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Re: [GNC] Duplicate emails in GnuCash Digests

2020-02-05 Thread Fred Bone
On 05 February 2020 at 7:32, Alan A Holmes said:

> >From a user perspective I see duplicate messages from "D via
> >gnucash-user" for most, but not ALL, of D's posts. I don't recall
> >duplicates from anyone else, but if there have been any it's only been
> >the odd one or two, and not enough to stick in my memory.
> 
> I notice D's messages as I retrieve each message in my mail client,
> Outlook, and they come in next to each other.
> 
> I've compared the properties of 2 such messages and there's very little
> difference between them. Mostly the differences are the processing done by
> my ISP, times and id's etc., which you would expect for 2 separate
> messages. There's also a difference in the processing done at gnucash.org
> for messages received from yahoo.com, D's ISP, id's etc., which may
> indicate gnucash.org is receiving 2 messages.

FWIW:

1. You can tell a duplicated message from one that's been sent twice by 
looking at the Message-ID: header, which is (required to be) unique to 
each "origination" (normally set by the sending mailer, sometimes by the 
first mail server that sees the message). The ones I've checked recently 
are being duplicated somewhere as both copies have the same Message-ID.

2. You can usually tell where the duplication has happened by comparing 
the Received: headers, which are found in reverse date-time order. The 
earliest will be the same. As I get the Digest, which strips these, I 
can't offer anything useful.

3. Other mailing-lists I'm on have been reporting duplication issues with 
messages passing through Yahoo (and BTInternet, which is managed by 
Yahoo), with duplicates sometimes appearing after several weeks.

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[GNC] Gnucash Not Working

2020-02-05 Thread Alexandra Lucas via gnucash-user
HI,
I'm having trouble getting gnucash to open on my Mac that has the latest IOS - 
Catalina 10.15.3.
I click the icon and it bounces like it's going to open but never does and just 
disappears. 
Can you help?
Thank you!

Alex LucasArt Director, Designer & Photographerohtheraven.com || instagram 
@ohtheraven
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