Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

Of course, you can suppress zero balance accounts in the View menu, if that's your preference... Original Message From: David Cousens Sent: Tue Jun 01 18:46:57 EDT 2021 To: John Morris , Gnucash Users Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

I’m a fairly naive user, but I find the Imbalance-XXX and Orphan-XXX accounts (at top level in my CoA) extremely useful, and I understand why they are there. If I ever see a balance, I know I have to fix something, which is a good reason to have them at the top. I can’t comment on any changes

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

On Tue, June 1, 2021 9:15 pm, Liz Dodd wrote: > On Tue, 01 Jun 2021 10:23:07 -0400 > "D. via gnucash-user" wrote: > >> The question about imbalance entries goes back a long ways in >> GnuCash, and you can find discussions about it in the lists over the >> years. >> >> Essentially, the debate

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

On Tue, 01 Jun 2021 10:23:07 -0400 "D. via gnucash-user" wrote: > The question about imbalance entries goes back a long ways in > GnuCash, and you can find discussions about it in the lists over the > years. > > Essentially, the debate boils down to this: is it better to allow a > user to

Re: [GNC] Transparent background on selected Transfer choice

Hello all I am using PCLinuxOS KDE5 with GNUCash 4.2 and have had the same issues with the transparency. The default style for Gnome/GTK applications was Breeze so I changed it to Adwaita and the problem has gone. I wasn't that happy with the "look" though so I have since changed

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

Entering data for someone else is likely to produce a lot of /corner cases/ too. This leads to insert/delete splits, which always causes me grief, and I have to delete the imbalance line manually. Is my workflow wrong? -- Sent from:

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

Hi David, > I agree. There is a case for not displaying the Imbalance accounts in the CoA > tab if there are no entries to them, i.e. they are zero balance. This is an > option in reports but not in the account tab. They can of course be left in > the CoA and hidden in the Account tab by

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

John, I agree. There is a case for not displaying the Imbalance accounts in the CoA tab if there are no entries to them, i.e. they are zero balance. This is an option in reports but not in the account tab. They can of course be left in the CoA and hidden in the Account tab by editing the account

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

> Actually you are given the opportunity to fix it during entry. When the > Imbalance account appears in a transaction in the account column, all you > have to do is click on it in the Account column and assign the correct > account from the drop down list, before closing (pressing Enter) the

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

I might add here that there are corner cases where it is very difficult to quickly bring a transaction into balance, and sometimes it is necessary for an accounting judgement needing to be made. Many of these cases arise when something does not have a well defined value, so an estimated value

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

John, Actually you are given the opportunity to fix it during entry. When the Imbalance account appears in a transaction in the account column, all you have to do is click on it in the Account column and assign the correct account from the drop down list, before closing (pressing Enter) the

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

Laura, The reason Imbalance entries exist is that it is a fundamental principle in double entry accounting that the sum of the debits and credits to the various accounts that make up a transaction must be zero. The Imbalance results if a user creates and saves a transaction in which this is not

Re: [GNC] Transparent background on selected Transfer choice

I do not understand why Ubuntu 20.04 LTS is denied later releases.  How can you maintain a family of products when you leave some kids behind on the side of the road for two years?  I do not care what release number is fixed under.  I do want the fix to flow to me through the normal channels as

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

Two reasons: 1- the dev team tries to minimize stored settings, and 2- no one has written the code. On Jun 1, 2021, 11:56, at 11:56, s310...@gmail.com wrote: >hi, >why not make it configurable (either nag or create a dummy >account/entry) >as a settings option? > >Shay > >On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

hi, why not make it configurable (either nag or create a dummy account/entry) as a settings option? Shay On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 5:30 PM wrote: > David, thank you for taking the time to fill me in the thought process. > Laura > > - Original message - > From: "D."

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

Given the extremely long history of this question with many good people expressing good reasons on both sides of the debate, I would have expected the developers to give the user the choice. There should be a switch in the preferences that allows the user to decide if the necessary extra

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

As I've been reading the discussion about the imbalance account, it occurred to me to ask why GnuCash allows entries that are out of balance? In theory and practice, we should not have entries that don't balance...credits should equal debits...and if they don't, we have an error in the

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

David, thank you for taking the time to fill me in the thought process. Laura - Original message - From: "D." mailto:sunfish62%40yahoo.com>> To: men...@fastmail.fm Cc: Gnucash Users mailto:gnucash-user%40gnucash.org>> Subject: Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

Laura, Welcome to gnucash. The question about imbalance entries goes back a long ways in GnuCash, and you can find discussions about it in the lists over the years. Essentially, the debate boils down to this: is it better to allow a user to enter an imbalanced transaction and automatically

Re: [GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

My opinion is that the imbalance *IS* the error and it allows you to easily see and correct which transactions need to be moved. I think this is preferred instead of a hard error or not allowing a transaction to be entered. On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 10:04 AM wrote: > Michael wrote > > "

[GNC] WHY ARE THERE "IMBALANCE ENTRIES" AT ALL ?? JUST CURIOUS

Michael wrote " automatically-generated entries for Imbalance-USD would be placed in my existing Imbalance-USD account, which is located under Special Accounts. " First, thank you to the developers of GnuCash. I started using it a couple of months ago to replace Quicken because it drove me

Re: [GNC] New Imbalance-XXX Behavior

Hi All, JRalls authored a patch not too long ago that  was around trading accounts and not finding the correct trading account when it wasn't at the top level, so it created a second one.  It will be included in 4.6.  This scenario sounds pretty similiar and I wonder if this is related.   Bug: 

Re: [GNC] New Imbalance-XXX Behavior

I wonder whether a change in the underlying account functions in pull request #921 has caused this change in behavior. The PR appears to have rearranged the list order to improve performance, and I wonder if by rearranging, the embedded imbalance account is no longer found?  I'll note that with

Re: [GNC] New Imbalance-XXX Behavior

And, having downgraded to 4.4, I can confirm that this new behavior began with 4.5. Original Message From: "D. via gnucash-user" Sent: Tue Jun 01 08:12:27 EDT 2021 To: David G Hamblen Cc: Gnucash Users Subject: Re: [GNC] New Imbalance-XXX Behavior Well, that's how it

Re: [GNC] New Imbalance-XXX Behavior

Well, that's how it worked before. Original Message From: David G Hamblen Sent: Tue Jun 01 07:08:28 EDT 2021 To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] New Imbalance-XXX Behavior Since Gnucash uses guid's, perhaps let it create the imbalance account in the root

Re: [GNC] Question about Profit-Loss Report

In our jurisdiction farms are permitted to choose whether to use cash or accrual, and there are various tax advantages to using cash-based. Happily, December/January is the time of lightest business, so the difference isn’t huge when it comes to accounting. I do find I need to unpost and

Re: [GNC] New Imbalance-XXX Behavior

Since Gnucash uses guid's, perhaps let it create the imbalance account in the root account, then rename/move it to a location of your choosing.  That way it maybe gets added to the list of valid imbalance accounts? On 5/31/21 11:23 PM, DaveC49 wrote: David, I'm not sure why the behaviour

Re: [GNC] Question about Profit-Loss Report

All very understandable. It has always intrigued me how accountants deal with 'late payments' i.e. bills paid after the close of the year. If I understand the discussion, ongoing (accrual based) businesses are always behind when it comes to an analysis of the state of play, unless all invoices