Re: [GNC] Backports in Ubuntu? was: Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread David H
I believe the original version of the script was posted by David Whiting on 2nd October - link to post - https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-October/097864.html Cheers David H. On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 at 13:14, brad wrote: > Later versions of Ubuntu are not too far out of date >

Re: [GNC] Backports in Ubuntu? was: Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread brad
Later versions of Ubuntu are not too far out of date 21.10: 4.4 21.04: 4.4 A month or so ago I was asking a similar question & someone posted a script to build it.  See attached (hopefully). It worked for me except the location of the binary was a bit confusing. On 12/3/21 5:24 PM, Mike

Re: [GNC] Backports in Ubuntu? was: Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread Mike Brady
Thanks. I might look at the Debian repos. But afaik, and as discussed by others in the thread, it appears that for Ubuntu the app versions are frozen to the main kernel versions. So unless some other method is used, we're stuck at 3.8 for Gnucash (for instance) until Mint upgrades or we can

Re: [GNC] read-only accounts

2021-12-03 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Adrien, Placeholder account registers are displayed as greyed out. While it's not necessarily obvious upon first viewing, it becomes clearer when you try to add a transaction (and it prevents you). I do agree with the OP that the way gnucash handles transactions in placeholder accounts is

Re: [GNC] Backports in Ubuntu? was: Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hi Mike, Am 03.12.21 um 22:19 schrieb Mike Brady: > Have been following this thread because I use Linux Mint, which is based > on the LTS version of Ubuntu. Yes, the GnuCash version in the Ubuntu LTS > repository is way out of date (3.8). : AFAIK the Ubuntu family is a branch of the Debian

Re: [GNC] Subject: Re: Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread davidcousens49
The barrier Mike is someone with the time and energy to maintain a ppa. The reason Linux Mint (and other distros) freeze the versions they use is to reduce their workload to maneagable proportions and to ensure that versions of other software included witha n OS release will at least work with

[GNC] Subject: Re: Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread Mike Brady
Have been following this thread because I use Linux Mint, which is based on the LTS version of Ubuntu. Yes, the GnuCash version in the Ubuntu LTS repository is way out of date (3.8). I'm out of date, even on Windows (3.10 in one machine, 4.3 on the other), mainly due to laziness about chasing

Re: [GNC] Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hi David, Am 03.12.21 um 20:20 schrieb Dr. David Kirkby: > It depends on the effort to recompile on Linux. If building on linux is > relatively painless, then I will upgrade if I decide to use the software - > I'm still a bit undecided on that. for people uncomfortable with building on linux we

Re: [GNC] Quotes or Proforma Bills and Invoices (was Re: Ubuntu binary fairly dated)

2021-12-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 18:37, Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > I recall this being discussed a few months ago. I think it was going to > be a relatively minor change in terminology rather than functionality. > > I haven't noticed if this change was implemented yet

Re: [GNC] CSV Import Reconciled field

2021-12-03 Thread Kalpesh Patel
I joined up later in the 3.X releases so likely missed the earlier notes and didn’t go in the past version to catch-up on it. I also was looking for much easier way to import, similar to importing bank debit/credit transactions, as my format looks like this: Date Investment

Re: [GNC] Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 18:39, Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > The Wiki section on upgrading should help you with compatibility. > > For a few major releases now, the policy is that the last minor release > of a series will be able to read a file from the next major

Re: [GNC] Can I make a customer a vendor too, without manual reentry?

2021-12-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 19:01, wrote: > It is possible to import customer and vendor information separately from a > single text file( although there is no export facility at present for this > information which would simplify doing this). For dual customer/vendor you > could > import the same

Re: [GNC] Can I make a customer a vendor too, without manual reentry?

2021-12-03 Thread davidcousens49
It is possible to import customer and vendor information separately from a single text file( although there is no export facility at present for this information which would simplify doing this). For dual customer/vendor you could import the same data both as a customer and as a vendor. David

Re: [GNC] read-only accounts

2021-12-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
On 12/3/21 12:31 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: Technically, I don't think "placeholder" is fully read-only. It will warn you if you open the account, and it will prevent you entering transactions in the account. But I don't think it is designed to (or will) prevent modification of entries in the

Re: [GNC] Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
The Wiki section on upgrading should help you with compatibility. For a few major releases now, the policy is that the last minor release of a series will be able to read a file from the next major release. So whatever the last 3.x was, *should* be able to read a 4.x file. But if there is no

Re: [GNC] Quotes or Proforma Bills and Invoices (was Re: Ubuntu binary fairly dated)

2021-12-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I recall this being discussed a few months ago. I think it was going to be a relatively minor change in terminology rather than functionality. I haven't noticed if this change was implemented yet because I rarely have a need for holding an un-posted status, but until then: Essentially, an

Re: [GNC] Can I make a customer a vendor too, without manual reentry?

2021-12-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Yes, customers can be vendors, and the reverse, but no, those two 'accounts' are not linked. There are ways to accomplish certain AP/AR cross-overs, but I think the Business Logic doesn't allow them to be easily mixed. (as of v4.8) You'll have to do some manual transactions, likely with some

Re: [GNC] read-only accounts

2021-12-03 Thread Derek Atkins
Adrien, On Fri, December 3, 2021 1:24 pm, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > I forgot to mention that if it errors out due to a read-only condition, > but *still* changes the data, that would be a bug. Either it is > read-only, or it is not. Technically, I don't think "placeholder" is fully read-only.

Re: [GNC] read-only accounts

2021-12-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Maybe slow down and be careful when editing transactions? And as you pointed out, they are reconciled, so you get a warning that helps you slow down. That can help prevent 'inadvertent' edits, but it won't stop a deliberate change. (as you discovered) Regards, Adrien On 12/3/21 11:43 AM,

Re: [GNC] read-only accounts

2021-12-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I forgot to mention that if it errors out due to a read-only condition, but *still* changes the data, that would be a bug. Either it is read-only, or it is not. Regards, Adrien On 12/3/21 8:37 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: HI, On Fri, December 3, 2021 9:17 am, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: On Thu, Dec

Re: [GNC] read-only accounts

2021-12-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Maybe the warning could be more helpful. (via a more accurate description) If the issue involves affecting a placeholder account that shouldn't be edited, and *not* just the editing of a reconciled transaction, the warning should inform the user this is the case. (or maybe the register should

[GNC] Can I make a customer a vendor too, without manual reentry?

2021-12-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I have a few customers from whom I buy from too, so they are *both a customer and a vendor*. Is there any way of handling this, except by manually entering the same data twice? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your

Re: [GNC] clearing reconciled transactions

2021-12-03 Thread Kalpesh Patel
Might be slightly simpler way to do it - Do normal work flows other than reconcile, save the file, turn off auto save of the file and then you can do your reconciling and if you have cold feet then you can exit GNC without saving the file. Next time you open GNC it will put you back to place

Re: [GNC] read-only accounts

2021-12-03 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 11:50:11AM -0500, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > On 12/3/2021 10:27 AM, Glenn Fowler wrote: > > Hi, > > > > What about just making the file read only with no write permission? > > > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 9:17 AM Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > THAT is looking in the

Re: [GNC] clearing reconciled transactions

2021-12-03 Thread Kalpesh Patel
Not only range selection operation with [shift] key work, so does the [ctrl] key operation where you can select items in random order albeit limited to only RH or LH pane across multiple pages/screens does as well. And then you can follow it up with [space bar] to change status of all those

Re: [GNC] Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 16:20, David Carlson wrote: > Actually the News page contains a fairly > accurate history of the changes in each release. > Thank you. There are a huge number of changes. I've just downloaded the Windows version, and will look at

Re: [GNC] read-only accounts

2021-12-03 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 12/3/2021 10:27 AM, Glenn Fowler wrote: Hi, What about just making the file read only with no write permission? On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 9:17 AM Mattia Rizzolo wrote: THAT is looking in the right direction. If you want to "freeze" the books as of a certain state make a copy of the file

Re: [GNC] Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread Chris Green
On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 10:20:49AM -0600, David Carlson wrote: > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:33 AM Chris Green wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 02:12:04PM +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > > On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 15:48, Chris Green wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 03:30:02PM

Re: [GNC] Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread David Carlson
Actually the News page contains a fairly accurate history of the changes in each release. On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:33 AM Chris Green wrote: > On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 02:12:04PM +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 15:48, Chris Green wrote: >

Re: [GNC] read-only accounts

2021-12-03 Thread Glenn Fowler
Hi, What about just making the file read only with no write permission? On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 9:17 AM Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 08:33:51PM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > > Mark the account as a PlaceHolder account and it'll be read-only. > > Oh, that's a nice trick I

Re: [GNC] read-only accounts

2021-12-03 Thread Derek Atkins
HI, On Fri, December 3, 2021 9:17 am, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 08:33:51PM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: >> Mark the account as a PlaceHolder account and it'll be read-only. > > Oh, that's a nice trick I didn't think of! Thanks! > > Howver, it seems to me that it doesn't fully

Re: [GNC] Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread Chris Green
On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 02:12:04PM +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 15:48, Chris Green wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 03:30:02PM +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > > I should have added, the particular distribution of Ubuntu I am using is > > > 20.04 LTS, which

Re: [GNC] clearing reconciled transactions

2021-12-03 Thread paul
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's part of IBM's 1987 "Common User Access", which is the source of most of what we all take for granted about user interfaces in general. Everything from the File and Edit menus, through F5 for refresh, to the Cut/Copy/Paste keyboard shortcuts all are defined there. I

Re: [GNC] How to record accrued interest

2021-12-03 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Hi Stan! On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 01:35:35PM -0800, Stan Brown wrote: > I think you have done it exactly right!(*) Here interest is paid > monthly, as it's accrued, so I don't have your exact issue. But banks > often give rebates on credit-card purchases, and I record those the same > way you are

Re: [GNC] read-only accounts

2021-12-03 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 08:33:51PM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: > Mark the account as a PlaceHolder account and it'll be read-only. Oh, that's a nice trick I didn't think of! Thanks! Howver, it seems to me that it doesn't fully lock down the account. If I tried to change a split belonging to

Re: [GNC] Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 15:48, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 03:30:02PM +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > I should have added, the particular distribution of Ubuntu I am using is > > 20.04 LTS, which installs GnuCash 3.8, which was released almost 2 years > > ago. > > > Which makes

Re: [GNC] clearing reconciled transactions

2021-12-03 Thread Mahon Finbar
Oh, does that work? It is a standard MS way of doing it but I never tried in Gnucash. Thanks On 02/12/2021 17:22, Kalpesh Patel wrote: Just in case need details, this is what I do: Go to first row and then hold the [shift] key while clicking the last row to select a range that I want to

Re: [GNC] Ubuntu binary fairly dated

2021-12-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 15:48, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 03:30:02PM +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > I should have added, the particular distribution of Ubuntu I am using is > > 20.04 LTS, which installs GnuCash 3.8, which was released almost 2 years > > ago. > > > Which makes

Re: [GNC] clearing reconciled transactions

2021-12-03 Thread Mahon Finbar
Ditto here, I haven't found any way in Gnu of 'marking' text for delete. Probably a good idea, the forensic accountants on here would never accept it Also ditto for the page at a time proposal. It is a complete bummer when you reconcile a biggish sequence of transactions and find you are