[GNC] End of Year?

2024-01-12 Thread R Losey
I suspect that this topic comes up about every New Year - perhaps it is worth putting in a FAQ (if it's not in one), and perhaps posting the FAQ monthly to this list. In the relatively short time I've been on this list, I definitely see some repeated questions, including this end-of-year question

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread R Losey
I'm sensing a learning opportunity here... GnuCash has templates? I never noticed that; I only use the templates in the Scheduled Transaction Editor. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 11:37 PM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > That's moving beyond Scheduled Transactions and into

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
That's moving beyond Scheduled Transactions and into a more general case of Templates. I'm pretty sure I've already filed an RFE for that long ago. I see Scheduled Transactions as a special use case of Templates, though Scheduled was implemented first. The more general Template case is when

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread David Carlson
Liz, Since you asked, I think that is a good idea. We could have both a test run while editing that did not crash anything if it failed and when looking at the SX but not editing it, have a button that triggers the creation of the next instance. That would probably work regardless of the SLR

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread Patrick James
>From the pulldown menus: Actions -> Scheduled Transactions -> Since Last Run... > On 01/12/2024 7:13 PM PST Liz wrote: > > So would you like a button which gives an option to make a test run? > > Liz > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:08:14 -0600 > David Carlson wrote: > > > I consider the SX to

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread Liz
On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:08:14 -0600 David Carlson wrote: > I consider the SX to be a graphical form of a script, and so I am not > sure how the editor could detect what is safe to call an expression > that could be evaluated while it is being edited. > So would you like a button which gives an

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Liz
On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 11:53:58 -0600 Jack Slater wrote: > I am and have been doing for years. First time ever GnC burped up > "rogue" transactions. I also edit transactions in the middle of reconciliation. My repetitive saving started when I couldn't get stuff to balance and started doing

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread David Cousens
David I add correcting/missing transactions all the time while doing a reconciliation without any problem. They then just appear in the panels of the reconciliation display once the transaction has been entered. Havn't done it in 5.5 yet though. WIll be doing so in the next few days so will

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Patrick James
I own a few, but I generally don't use timers. What should I expect at 90 minutes, and at what point do I start the timer? > On 01/12/2024 12:29 PM PST David Carlson wrote: > > > ...except when something happens after 90 minutes of that sort of activity > that creates a huge mess. > >

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread David Carlson
...except when something happens after 90 minutes of that sort of activity that creates a huge mess. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 2:11 PM Jack Slater wrote: > I'd certainly agree. > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 11:57 AM Patrick James > > wrote: > > > My personal experience is that this "phantom

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Jack Slater
I'd certainly agree. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 11:57 AM Patrick James wrote: > My personal experience is that this "phantom transaction" problem began in > 5.X. > > Using 4.X, I experienced no problems changing/adding/deleting transactions > during a reconciliation. > > > > On 01/12/2024 9:44 AM

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread David Carlson
Stan, Scheduled transactions [SX's] are only executed when the Since Last Run assistant is triggered, and then only when they meet several criteria such as the calendar date matching the scheduled execution date but the SX is not postponed or ignored. Some users, like myself, have as many as

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread Gyle McCollam
Stan, I think what they were referring to is that if you don't shutdown and start a new session, they don't fire automatically. Some people leave Gnucash open for days or longer. On the calculations, I think, they want them to add together like they do in a normal register and not have to

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2024-01-12 08:17, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > I am not unsympathetic to that conundrum! > > On 1/12/24 12:23 AM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote: >> if I have to remember to run the SLR in order to have them created, >> then I've just changed the work, not reduced it. I'm confused. I'm not

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Thanks all for the discussion. I can rest easy knowing that this is how the SX editor works. It just took me by surprise... ⁣David T.​ On Jan 12, 2024, 7:09 PM, at 7:09 PM, David Carlson wrote: >I consider the SX to be a graphical form of a script, and so I am not >sure >how the editor could

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Patrick James
Jack, This "log file" discussion seemed to get moved to a stack type of log. There is another log with GNUCash, which is somewhat unique in that programmers usually need the stack log (all programming). The GNUCash data log file is explained in 2.5.2.

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread David Carlson
I consider the SX to be a graphical form of a script, and so I am not sure how the editor could detect what is safe to call an expression that could be evaluated while it is being edited. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 11:36 AM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > What I meant

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Patrick James
My personal experience is that this "phantom transaction" problem began in 5.X. Using 4.X, I experienced no problems changing/adding/deleting transactions during a reconciliation. > On 01/12/2024 9:44 AM PST David Carlson wrote: > > > It sounds like you are entering new transactions while

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Jack Slater
I am and have been doing for years. First time ever GnC burped up "rogue" transactions. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 11:44 AM David Carlson wrote: > It sounds like you are entering new transactions while part way through > performing a reconciliation process. > > I suspect that could confuse the

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread David Carlson
It sounds like you are entering new transactions while part way through performing a reconciliation process. I suspect that could confuse the reconciliation. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 11:22 AM Jack Slater wrote: > Windows 11 > > Was on 5.4 when problems started. Updated to 5.5 and finally

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
What I meant was it would indeed be nice that the SX Template entry allowed you to do math like a register does. I never meant to imply that one could edit the code from within the app! Regards, Adrien On 1/12/24 11:27 AM, David Carlson wrote: I beg to differ. Executing code while editing

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread David Carlson
I beg to differ. Executing code while editing it would be an invitation to disaster. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 10:25 AM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > Indeed, I should have tested it prior to commenting. > > Apologies for the noise. > > At the very least, being able

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Jack Slater
Windows 11 Was on 5.4 when problems started. Updated to 5.5 and finally slugged my through doing exactly what you suggested - saving page and then transaction at a time. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 5:08 AM Liz wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 11:11:13 -0600 > Jack Slater wrote: > > > 90 minutes of

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Jack Slater
No split. I'll give an exact example: I entered: 12/3/2023VisaWalmart +-Expense:Household..(blank).$100 Switched back to reconcile window and saw the original (above) and also: 12/3/2023VisaWalmart +-Expense:Household-(blank)- $68

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Jack Slater
Bingo! Thats me in a nutshell! On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 9:53 PM john wrote: > Adrien, > > Have a look at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799093 > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > On Jan 11, 2024, at 19:22, Adrien Monteleone < > adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > > > > In 10+ years of

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Jack Slater
Seems doubtful I'm sure but I know for a fact I didn't enter these. More than once, I made 1 single entry, switched back to the reconcile and saw 2 entries, sometimes with a different amount. On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 9:25 PM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > In 10+

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Jack Slater
Thank you Jim! On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 5:48 PM Jim DeLaHunt wrote: > Jack: > > On 2024-01-11 09:11, Jack Slater wrote: > > 90 minutes of reconciling down the drain with a crash near the end of the > > final account > My commiserations. Yes, it is maddening to lose 90 minutes of work when >

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Indeed, I should have tested it prior to commenting. Apologies for the noise. At the very least, being able to do math here with a result would be a good RFE. I would only expect formulas to remain as formulas if they contain variables which require a prompt for value. Regards, Adrien On

Re: [GNC] Template Transactions Behavior in Scheduled Transaction Editor

2024-01-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I am not unsympathetic to that conundrum! Regards, Adrien On 1/12/24 12:23 AM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote: if I have to remember to run the SLR in order to have them created, then I've just changed the work, not reduced it. ___ gnucash-user

Re: [GNC] List of fields checked by importer when matching transactions

2024-01-12 Thread GNUCash via gnucash-user
Perhaps related to your question. I did notice as I was closing last quarter that in the GNU Cash latest version something seems to have changed with the importer matching. I create my own CSV files in Python based on the export from suppliers/payments. I had to change the Transfer memo field I

Re: [GNC] Maddening!!!!!!!!

2024-01-12 Thread Liz
On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 11:11:13 -0600 Jack Slater wrote: > 90 minutes of reconciling down the drain with a crash near the end of > the final account. Oddly, even though GnuC auto saves periodically, > it seems none of any add/delete/balance transactions were saved in > any account! Why would that