Re: [GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks for letting us know!

Regards,
Adrien

On 4/8/23 8:03 AM, Tute Terner wrote:
Adrien's answer was spot on! Thank you Adrien. It is not a bug, but my 
misuse. The matter is resolved.


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[GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[Tute Terner]

Adrien's answer was spot on! Thank you Adrien. It is not a bug, but my misuse. 
The matter is resolved.

/On 04/07/2023 11:46 AM Adrien Monteleone lusfiber.net > 
wrote: />//>//>/Do the splits *that match the open account register* have 'paid' in />/their memos? />//>/If the 'paid' text is in a memo assigned to some *other* account, you />/will not get results. Memos are not for the open register, but only for />/accounts matching *for that split*. />//>/e.g., />//>/Dr. Expenses:Utilities 100 />/-(Memo = "paid") />/Cr. Assets:Checking 100 />/-(Memo is blank) />//>/And you do a search with the Checking account register in view, for />/"paid" you will get no results, because there are no splits *assigned to />/the Checking account* with that memo. The splits that have that memo, />/are assigned (in this case) to Expenses:Utilities. />//>/You can do the search from the Accounts page, and set additional />/criteria as needed to refine the search. />//>/Regards, />/Adrien />//>/On 4/7/23 5:57 AM, Tute Terner wrote: />/> On 2023-04-05 07:18, Tute Terner wrote: />/>> /When I search in the Find dialog box using the Description field, />/>> />/everything works. But when I search by the Memo field or the />/>> />/'Description, Notes or Memo' field or the Action field the Search />/>> />/Results always turn out empty, even though the search string is />/>> present />/in the Memo or Action fields of some transactions.  I am />/>> using Gnucash />/5.0 for Windows, but I have noticed this in some />/>> previous versions too. />/Am I doing something incorrect or is this a />/>> bug. I don't see that />/anybody has mentioned this behaviour in the />/>> mailing list or in the bug />/list. Thank you. / />/> />/> />/> The specific search instance I had is this. I have a Gnucash file with />/> accounts X, Y, and Z. X and Y have split Memo fields containing the />/> search string 'paid'. I display account register X and search for 'paid' />/> in the Memo field. Zero results. I then go to 'List of accounts' tree />/> tab and search the same, using 'New Search' every time. I get results />/> from both X and Y. So this works, but I don't want the result from Y. />/> />/> So again I search from the accounts tree tab adding the 'and' condition />/> of Account and set it to X. Again 0 results. I display account register />/> Y and run the search on Memo field only. Again 0 results. />/> />/> To make doubly sure I created a dummy gnucash file with accounts X, Y />/> and Z as above. Same results. So looks like a bug to me. />//>


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Re: [GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[Patrick James]

Tute Terner,

Will you please upload your sample data set.


> On 04/07/2023 11:46 AM Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> Do the splits *that match the open account register* have 'paid' in 
> their memos?
> 
> If the 'paid' text is in a memo assigned to some *other* account, you 
> will not get results. Memos are not for the open register, but only for 
> accounts matching *for that split*.
> 
> e.g.,
> 
> Dr. Expenses:Utilities100
>-(Memo = "paid")
>Cr. Assets:Checking100
>  -(Memo is blank)
> 
> And you do a search with the Checking account register in view, for 
> "paid" you will get no results, because there are no splits *assigned to 
> the Checking account* with that memo. The splits that have that memo, 
> are assigned (in this case) to Expenses:Utilities.
> 
> You can do the search from the Accounts page, and set additional 
> criteria as needed to refine the search.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 4/7/23 5:57 AM, Tute Terner wrote:
> > On 2023-04-05 07:18, Tute Terner wrote:
> >> /When I search in the Find dialog box using the Description field, 
> >> />/everything works. But when I search by the Memo field or the 
> >> />/'Description, Notes or Memo' field or the Action field the Search 
> >> />/Results always turn out empty, even though the search string is 
> >> present />/in the Memo or Action fields of some transactions.  I am 
> >> using Gnucash />/5.0 for Windows, but I have noticed this in some 
> >> previous versions too. />/Am I doing something incorrect or is this a 
> >> bug. I don't see that />/anybody has mentioned this behaviour in the 
> >> mailing list or in the bug />/list. Thank you. /
> > 
> > 
> > The specific search instance I had is this. I have a Gnucash file with 
> > accounts X, Y, and Z. X and Y have split Memo fields containing the 
> > search string 'paid'. I display account register X and search for 'paid' 
> > in the Memo field. Zero results. I then go to 'List of accounts' tree 
> > tab and search the same, using 'New Search' every time. I get results 
> > from both X and Y. So this works, but I don't want the result from Y.
> > 
> > So again I search from the accounts tree tab adding the 'and' condition 
> > of Account and set it to X. Again 0 results. I display account register 
> > Y and run the search on Memo field only. Again 0 results.
> > 
> > To make doubly sure I created a dummy gnucash file with accounts X, Y 
> > and Z as above. Same results. So looks like a bug to me.
> 
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Re: [GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[Adrien Monteleone]

Do the splits *that match the open account register* have 'paid' in 
their memos?


If the 'paid' text is in a memo assigned to some *other* account, you 
will not get results. Memos are not for the open register, but only for 
accounts matching *for that split*.


e.g.,

Dr. Expenses:Utilities100
  -(Memo = "paid")
  Cr. Assets:Checking100
-(Memo is blank)

And you do a search with the Checking account register in view, for 
"paid" you will get no results, because there are no splits *assigned to 
the Checking account* with that memo. The splits that have that memo, 
are assigned (in this case) to Expenses:Utilities.


You can do the search from the Accounts page, and set additional 
criteria as needed to refine the search.


Regards,
Adrien

On 4/7/23 5:57 AM, Tute Terner wrote:

On 2023-04-05 07:18, Tute Terner wrote:
/When I search in the Find dialog box using the Description field, 
/>/everything works. But when I search by the Memo field or the 
/>/'Description, Notes or Memo' field or the Action field the Search 
/>/Results always turn out empty, even though the search string is 
present />/in the Memo or Action fields of some transactions.  I am 
using Gnucash />/5.0 for Windows, but I have noticed this in some 
previous versions too. />/Am I doing something incorrect or is this a 
bug. I don't see that />/anybody has mentioned this behaviour in the 
mailing list or in the bug />/list. Thank you. /



The specific search instance I had is this. I have a Gnucash file with 
accounts X, Y, and Z. X and Y have split Memo fields containing the 
search string 'paid'. I display account register X and search for 'paid' 
in the Memo field. Zero results. I then go to 'List of accounts' tree 
tab and search the same, using 'New Search' every time. I get results 
from both X and Y. So this works, but I don't want the result from Y.


So again I search from the accounts tree tab adding the 'and' condition 
of Account and set it to X. Again 0 results. I display account register 
Y and run the search on Memo field only. Again 0 results.


To make doubly sure I created a dummy gnucash file with accounts X, Y 
and Z as above. Same results. So looks like a bug to me.


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Re: [GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[Patrick James]

I am not a programmer, but this has a similar behavior to the bug I reported, 
in that the selected tab makes a big difference.

Sure, I reported the bug as a "second search" as that is how I associated it at 
the time, but with this added information the bug might be more about the tab 
selected.

I added this to my bug report here:

https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798803


> On 04/07/2023 3:57 AM Tute Terner  wrote:
> 
>  
> On 2023-04-05 07:18, Tute Terner wrote:
> >/When I search in the Find dialog box using the Description field, 
> >/>/everything works. But when I search by the Memo field or the 
> >/>/'Description, Notes or Memo' field or the Action field the Search 
> >/>/Results always turn out empty, even though the search string is present 
> >/>/in the Memo or Action fields of some transactions.  I am using Gnucash 
> >/>/5.0 for Windows, but I have noticed this in some previous versions too. 
> >/>/Am I doing something incorrect or is this a bug. I don't see that 
> >/>/anybody has mentioned this behaviour in the mailing list or in the bug 
> >/>/list. Thank you. /
> 
> 
> The specific search instance I had is this. I have a Gnucash file with 
> accounts X, Y, and Z. X and Y have split Memo fields containing the 
> search string 'paid'. I display account register X and search for 'paid' 
> in the Memo field. Zero results. I then go to 'List of accounts' tree 
> tab and search the same, using 'New Search' every time. I get results 
> from both X and Y. So this works, but I don't want the result from Y.
> 
> So again I search from the accounts tree tab adding the 'and' condition 
> of Account and set it to X. Again 0 results. I display account register 
> Y and run the search on Memo field only. Again 0 results.
> 
> To make doubly sure I created a dummy gnucash file with accounts X, Y 
> and Z as above. Same results. So looks like a bug to me.
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[GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[Tute Terner]

On 2023-04-05 07:18, Tute Terner wrote:

/When I search in the Find dialog box using the Description field, />/everything works. But when I 
search by the Memo field or the />/'Description, Notes or Memo' field or the Action field the Search 
/>/Results always turn out empty, even though the search string is present />/in the Memo or 
Action fields of some transactions.  I am using Gnucash />/5.0 for Windows, but I have noticed this 
in some previous versions too. />/Am I doing something incorrect or is this a bug. I don't see that 
/>/anybody has mentioned this behaviour in the mailing list or in the bug />/list. Thank you. /



The specific search instance I had is this. I have a Gnucash file with 
accounts X, Y, and Z. X and Y have split Memo fields containing the 
search string 'paid'. I display account register X and search for 'paid' 
in the Memo field. Zero results. I then go to 'List of accounts' tree 
tab and search the same, using 'New Search' every time. I get results 
from both X and Y. So this works, but I don't want the result from Y.


So again I search from the accounts tree tab adding the 'and' condition 
of Account and set it to X. Again 0 results. I display account register 
Y and run the search on Memo field only. Again 0 results.


To make doubly sure I created a dummy gnucash file with accounts X, Y 
and Z as above. Same results. So looks like a bug to me.

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Re: [GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[R Losey]

Both of your insights are great, but if you'll pardon my jumping in, I
would point out that (in some earlier versions; not sure about the current
version), selecting Find would contain an option that was set (by default,
I think) to "Find within results" instead of "new search"... this caught me
several times.


On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 3:27 AM Geert Janssens 
wrote:

> Op donderdag 6 april 2023 08:07:12 CEST schreef Stan Brown:
> > On 2023-04-05 07:18, Tute Terner wrote:
> > > When I search in the Find dialog box using the Description field,
> > > everything works. But when I search by the Memo field or the
> > > 'Description, Notes or Memo' field or the Action field the Search
> > > Results always turn out empty, even though the search string is present
> > > in the Memo or Action fields of some transactions.  I am using Gnucash
> > > 5.0 for Windows, but I have noticed this in some previous versions too.
> > > Am I doing something incorrect or is this a bug. I don't see that
> > > anybody has mentioned this behaviour in the mailing list or in the bug
> > > list. Thank you.
> >
> > Probably you already know this, but ...
> >
> > Gnucash will only find transactions that are in the window that is on
> > top when you initiate the Find.
> >
>
> To expand on this: the description is a transaction property, while action
> and memo are split
> properties.
>
> If you initiate a search from an account register on any split property,
> it will only search the
> splits that belong to that account and not the other splits for all
> transactions shown.
> Searching for transaction properties will always work as they are shared
> by all splits in the
> split register.
>
> Regards,
>
> Geert
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Re: [GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[Patrick James]

Fair enough. My experience with the "Find..." is that it's buggy, and so you're 
right, I didn't spend a tremendous amount of effort sorting out the differences.

> On 04/06/2023 9:46 AM john  wrote:
> 
>  
> You're leaping to conclusions. The OP didn't say anything about it being a 
> second search.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
> > On Apr 6, 2023, at 9:34 AM, Patrick James  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > This is a bug, and I reported it as Bug ID 798803.
> > 
> > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798803
> > 
> > Selecting the "New Search" radio button should search as new, but alas, it 
> > does not.
> >
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Re: [GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[john]

You're leaping to conclusions. The OP didn't say anything about it being a 
second search.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Apr 6, 2023, at 9:34 AM, Patrick James  wrote:
> 
> This is a bug, and I reported it as Bug ID 798803.
> 
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798803
> 
> Selecting the "New Search" radio button should search as new, but alas, it 
> does not.
> 
> 
>> On 04/05/2023 11:07 PM Stan Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 2023-04-05 07:18, Tute Terner wrote:
>>> When I search in the Find dialog box using the Description field,
>>> everything works. But when I search by the Memo field or the
>>> 'Description, Notes or Memo' field or the Action field the Search
>>> Results always turn out empty, even though the search string is present
>>> in the Memo or Action fields of some transactions.  I am using Gnucash
>>> 5.0 for Windows, but I have noticed this in some previous versions too.
>>> Am I doing something incorrect or is this a bug. I don't see that
>>> anybody has mentioned this behaviour in the mailing list or in the bug
>>> list. Thank you.
>> 
>> Probably you already know this, but ...
>> 
>> Gnucash will only find transactions that are in the window that is on
>> top when you initiate the Find.
>> 
>> Therefore, if you want to make sure of getting all matching transactions
>> in all accounts rather than just one, you need to start your Find while
>> the Accounts window (lost of accounts) is on top.
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Re: [GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[Patrick James]

This is a bug, and I reported it as Bug ID 798803.

https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798803

Selecting the "New Search" radio button should search as new, but alas, it does 
not.


> On 04/05/2023 11:07 PM Stan Brown  wrote:
> 
>  
> On 2023-04-05 07:18, Tute Terner wrote:
> > When I search in the Find dialog box using the Description field,
> > everything works. But when I search by the Memo field or the
> > 'Description, Notes or Memo' field or the Action field the Search
> > Results always turn out empty, even though the search string is present
> > in the Memo or Action fields of some transactions.  I am using Gnucash
> > 5.0 for Windows, but I have noticed this in some previous versions too.
> > Am I doing something incorrect or is this a bug. I don't see that
> > anybody has mentioned this behaviour in the mailing list or in the bug
> > list. Thank you.
> 
> Probably you already know this, but ...
> 
> Gnucash will only find transactions that are in the window that is on
> top when you initiate the Find.
> 
> Therefore, if you want to make sure of getting all matching transactions
> in all accounts rather than just one, you need to start your Find while
> the Accounts window (lost of accounts) is on top.
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Re: [GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[Geert Janssens]

Op donderdag 6 april 2023 08:07:12 CEST schreef Stan Brown:
> On 2023-04-05 07:18, Tute Terner wrote:
> > When I search in the Find dialog box using the Description field,
> > everything works. But when I search by the Memo field or the
> > 'Description, Notes or Memo' field or the Action field the Search
> > Results always turn out empty, even though the search string is present
> > in the Memo or Action fields of some transactions.  I am using Gnucash
> > 5.0 for Windows, but I have noticed this in some previous versions too.
> > Am I doing something incorrect or is this a bug. I don't see that
> > anybody has mentioned this behaviour in the mailing list or in the bug
> > list. Thank you.
> 
> Probably you already know this, but ...
> 
> Gnucash will only find transactions that are in the window that is on
> top when you initiate the Find.
> 

To expand on this: the description is a transaction property, while action and 
memo are split 
properties.

If you initiate a search from an account register on any split property, it 
will only search the 
splits that belong to that account and not the other splits for all 
transactions shown. 
Searching for transaction properties will always work as they are shared by all 
splits in the 
split register.

Regards,

Geert
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Re: [GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[Stan Brown]

On 2023-04-05 07:18, Tute Terner wrote:
> When I search in the Find dialog box using the Description field,
> everything works. But when I search by the Memo field or the
> 'Description, Notes or Memo' field or the Action field the Search
> Results always turn out empty, even though the search string is present
> in the Memo or Action fields of some transactions.  I am using Gnucash
> 5.0 for Windows, but I have noticed this in some previous versions too.
> Am I doing something incorrect or is this a bug. I don't see that
> anybody has mentioned this behaviour in the mailing list or in the bug
> list. Thank you.

Probably you already know this, but ...

Gnucash will only find transactions that are in the window that is on
top when you initiate the Find.

Therefore, if you want to make sure of getting all matching transactions
in all accounts rather than just one, you need to start your Find while
the Accounts window (lost of accounts) is on top.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
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[GNC] Find not working in Gnucash for Windows 5.0

[Tute Terner]

When I search in the Find dialog box using the Description field, 
everything works. But when I search by the Memo field or the 
'Description, Notes or Memo' field or the Action field the Search 
Results always turn out empty, even though the search string is present 
in the Memo or Action fields of some transactions.  I am using Gnucash 
5.0 for Windows, but I have noticed this in some previous versions too. 
Am I doing something incorrect or is this a bug. I don't see that 
anybody has mentioned this behaviour in the mailing list or in the bug 
list. Thank you.


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