Re: [GNC] Gnucash,org url is now working

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 at 16:53, Fred Bone  wrote:

>
> What appears to be up is the loss of an automatic redirect from
>  http://www.gnucash.org
> to
>  https://www.gnucash.org
> which, as this is clearly an Apache webserver, is a matter of one line in
> a .htaccess file.


That’s not the best way to do it, although it will work.  It puts less load
on the server to have it in the server configuration file which is read
once when the server starts. Reading the .htaccess every time a site is
accessed adds unnecessary load. You will find that documented in the Apache
docs somewhere.

Dave

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash,org url is now working

[Linas Vepstas]

Hi Brad,
Sorry for the late response; I am going over old emails right now.

gnucash.org was down earlier this month because a simple hardware failure
(bad power supply) revealed that my internet provider, Grande
Communications, has several internal divisions at civil war with each
other. Lots of finger-pointing and accusations. I got service back some
weeks ago, but at least one support person said "this will keep happening
again".

-- Linas

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 1:38 AM Brad Morrison  wrote:

> Thanks to John, Fred, Derek, Geert, & Ken for clarifying the situation
> with the website & mailing lists.
>
> Are there any plans to upgrade the GnuCash mailing lists (
> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo) from Mailman2 to Mailman3 (
> https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html)? I mentioned before that
> I am on the board of the North Bay Linux Users Group (NBLUG -
> https://nblug.org/) and we recently upgraded from Mailman2 to Mailman3 (
> https://nblug.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/), with plenty of hiccups
> along the way...
>
> I am not sure what version the majority of GnuCash users have on their
> various machines, but the version I have on my Dell E7440 laptop is
> "Version: 3.8, Build ID: 3.8b+(2019-12-29), Finance::Quote: 1.49" as that
> is the most current version available in the Linux Mint software manager.
> Linux Mint also has a FlatHub version that appears to be listed as "4.10+"
> available in the Software Manager. I am running Linux Mint 20.3, but the
> current version is 21.1 (https://linuxmint.com/), so maybe that is the
> reason I have an older version available via the Software Manager...?
>
> Does GnuCash recommend using the FlatHub version when it is newer than the
> version offered in the various Linux distro repositories?
>
> https://code.gnucash.org/website/download.phtml lists the stable release
> version as 4.13 and the unstable release version as the 4.901 one that John
> mentioned below.
>
> Has Grande Communication Networks (https://www.astound.com/texas/ &
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande_Communications) been able to get
> Linas & the host machine back online yet since the February 11 storms in
> Austin, TX?
>
> Brad
>
> On 3/3/23 09:03, john wrote:
>
> That's been broken since Linas upgraded the host machine in January along 
> with updates so it's still missing the 4.901 release from last month and I 
> expect the 4.902 coming on Sunday won't work either. Keep using 
> https://code.gnucash.org/website.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2023, at 8:53 AM, Fred Bone   
> wrote:
>
> On 03 March 2023 at 7:31, Derek Atkins said:
>
>
> Hi.
> Indeed, it does appear that www.gnucash.org lost its brain and, although
> responding, is not the gnucash website.  I will notify Linas to ask what's
> up.
>
> What appears to be up is the loss of an automatic redirect 
> fromhttp://www.gnucash.org
> tohttps://www.gnucash.org
> which, as this is clearly an Apache webserver, is a matter of one line in
> a .htaccess file.
>
> The corresponding redirect for gnucash.org (without the www. prefix) is
> working.
>
> ___
>
> On 3/3/23 05:08, Geert Janssens wrote:
>
> It looks like an http vs https thing.
>
> https://www.gnucash.org works fine, plain http doesn't. Probably the
> redirect is not working as it should.
>
> Regards,
>
> Geert
>
> Op vrijdag 3 maart 2023 13:31:14 CET schreef Derek Atkins:
>
> > Hi.
>
> > Indeed, it does appear that www.gnucash.org lost its brain and, although
>
> > responding, is not the gnucash website.  I will notify Linas to ask
> what's
>
> > up.
>
> > As for # subscribers, we have a dozen lists with some overlapping
>
> > subscriptions, but there are over 2000 subscribers to gnucash-user.
>
> >
>
> > -derek
>
> >
>
> > On Fri, March 3, 2023 7:13 am, Brad Morrison wrote:
>
> > > Hi Ken, John, & all,
>
> > >
>
> > > I just tried the link that Ken provided and it took me to some "Apache2
>
> > > Ubuntu Default Page," but not the GnuCash homepage...?
>
> > >
>
> > > I also tried the link that John provided and that seems to work fine
> for
>
> > > the GnuCash homepage for me.
>
> > >
>
> > > Is anyone else having similar results?
>
> > >
>
> > > I would attach screenshots, but I don't know if the Mailman2 mailing
>
> > > list software allows for that - ? I am on the board of the North Bay
>
> > > Linux Users Group (NBLUG - https://nblug.org/) and we have gone
> through
>
> > > some transition difficulties in our recent upgrade from MailMan2 to
>
> > > MailMan3 (https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html), so when I
>
> > > saw that these GnuCash mailing lists are still using MailMan2
>
> > > (https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo) I made a mental note of
>
> > > that. Although with the amount of email traffic /volume that I have
> seen
>
> > > on this list, I am willing to bet that this list has far more
>
> > > subscribers than all of our NBLUG lists combined (we have about 250 on
>
> > > the 

Re: [GNC] Gnucash,org url is now working

[Ken Pyzik]

Yes -- just realized that when I entered into my browser it automatically went 
with the https://

You are correct -- the http:// goes to the generic/default apache page.  

Ken 

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On 
Behalf Of Fred Bone
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 8:53 AM
To: Derek Atkins 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash,org url is now working

On 03 March 2023 at 7:31, Derek Atkins said:

> Hi.
> Indeed, it does appear that www.gnucash.org lost its brain and, 
> although responding, is not the gnucash website.  I will notify Linas 
> to ask what's up.

What appears to be up is the loss of an automatic redirect from  
http://www.gnucash.org to  https://www.gnucash.org which, as this is clearly an 
Apache webserver, is a matter of one line in a .htaccess file.

The corresponding redirect for gnucash.org (without the www. prefix) is working.

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash,org url is now working

[Brad Morrison]

Thanks to John, Fred, Derek, Geert, & Ken for clarifying the situation 
with the website & mailing lists.


Are there any plans to upgrade the GnuCash mailing lists 
(https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo) from Mailman2 to Mailman3 
(https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html)? I mentioned before 
that I am on the board of the North Bay Linux Users Group (NBLUG - 
https://nblug.org/) and we recently upgraded from Mailman2 to Mailman3 
(https://nblug.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/), with plenty of hiccups 
along the way...


I am not sure what version the majority of GnuCash users have on their 
various machines, but the version I have on my Dell E7440 laptop is 
"Version: 3.8, Build ID: 3.8b+(2019-12-29), Finance::Quote: 1.49" as 
that is the most current version available in the Linux Mint software 
manager. Linux Mint also has a FlatHub version that appears to be listed 
as "4.10+" available in the Software Manager. I am running Linux Mint 
20.3, but the current version is 21.1 (https://linuxmint.com/), so maybe 
that is the reason I have an older version available via the Software 
Manager...?


Does GnuCash recommend using the FlatHub version when it is newer than 
the version offered in the various Linux distro repositories?


https://code.gnucash.org/website/download.phtml lists the stable release 
version as 4.13 and the unstable release version as the 4.901 one that 
John mentioned below.


Has Grande Communication Networks (https://www.astound.com/texas/ & 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande_Communications) been able to get 
Linas & the host machine back online yet since the February 11 storms in 
Austin, TX?


Brad

On 3/3/23 09:03, john wrote:

That's been broken since Linas upgraded the host machine in January along with 
updates so it's still missing the 4.901 release from last month and I expect 
the 4.902 coming on Sunday won't work either. Keep 
usinghttps://code.gnucash.org/website.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Mar 3, 2023, at 8:53 AM, Fred Bone  wrote:

On 03 March 2023 at 7:31, Derek Atkins said:


Hi.
Indeed, it does appear thatwww.gnucash.org  lost its brain and, although
responding, is not the gnucash website.  I will notify Linas to ask what's
up.

What appears to be up is the loss of an automatic redirect from
http://www.gnucash.org
to
https://www.gnucash.org
which, as this is clearly an Apache webserver, is a matter of one line in
a .htaccess file.

The corresponding redirect for gnucash.org (without the www. prefix) is
working.

___

On 3/3/23 05:08, Geert Janssens wrote:


It looks like an http vs https thing.


https://www.gnucash.org works fine, plain http doesn't. Probably the 
redirect is not working as it should.



Regards,


Geert


Op vrijdag 3 maart 2023 13:31:14 CET schreef Derek Atkins:

> Hi.

> Indeed, it does appear that www.gnucash.org lost its brain and, 
although


> responding, is not the gnucash website.  I will notify Linas to ask 
what's


> up.

> As for # subscribers, we have a dozen lists with some overlapping

> subscriptions, but there are over 2000 subscribers to gnucash-user.

>

> -derek

>

> On Fri, March 3, 2023 7:13 am, Brad Morrison wrote:

> > Hi Ken, John, & all,

> >

> > I just tried the link that Ken provided and it took me to some 
"Apache2


> > Ubuntu Default Page," but not the GnuCash homepage...?

> >

> > I also tried the link that John provided and that seems to work 
fine for


> > the GnuCash homepage for me.

> >

> > Is anyone else having similar results?

> >

> > I would attach screenshots, but I don't know if the Mailman2 mailing

> > list software allows for that - ? I am on the board of the North Bay

> > Linux Users Group (NBLUG - https://nblug.org/) and we have gone 
through


> > some transition difficulties in our recent upgrade from MailMan2 to

> > MailMan3 (https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html), so when I

> > saw that these GnuCash mailing lists are still using MailMan2

> > (https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo) I made a mental note of

> > that. Although with the amount of email traffic /volume that I 
have seen


> > on this list, I am willing to bet that this list has far more

> > subscribers than all of our NBLUG lists combined (we have about 
250 on


> > the 'talk' list and about 450 on the 'announce' list).

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Brad

> >

> > On 2/21/23 21:00, Ken Pyzik wrote:

> >> Tested it this evening - 9:00PM PST in the

> >> US.www.gnucash.org  now appears to be 
working.


> >> FYI.

> >>

> >> Ken

> >>

> >>

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash,org url is now working

[john]

That's been broken since Linas upgraded the host machine in January along with 
updates so it's still missing the 4.901 release from last month and I expect 
the 4.902 coming on Sunday won't work either. Keep using 
https://code.gnucash.org/website.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Mar 3, 2023, at 8:53 AM, Fred Bone  wrote:
> 
> On 03 March 2023 at 7:31, Derek Atkins said:
> 
>> Hi.
>> Indeed, it does appear that www.gnucash.org lost its brain and, although
>> responding, is not the gnucash website.  I will notify Linas to ask what's
>> up. 
> 
> What appears to be up is the loss of an automatic redirect from
> http://www.gnucash.org
> to
> https://www.gnucash.org
> which, as this is clearly an Apache webserver, is a matter of one line in 
> a .htaccess file.
> 
> The corresponding redirect for gnucash.org (without the www. prefix) is 
> working.
> 
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash,org url is now working

[Fred Bone]

On 03 March 2023 at 7:31, Derek Atkins said:

> Hi.
> Indeed, it does appear that www.gnucash.org lost its brain and, although
> responding, is not the gnucash website.  I will notify Linas to ask what's
> up. 

What appears to be up is the loss of an automatic redirect from
 http://www.gnucash.org
to
 https://www.gnucash.org
which, as this is clearly an Apache webserver, is a matter of one line in 
a .htaccess file.

The corresponding redirect for gnucash.org (without the www. prefix) is 
working.

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash,org url is now working

[Geert Janssens]

It looks like an http vs https thing.

https://www.gnucash.org works fine, plain http doesn't. Probably the redirect 
is not working 
as it should.

Regards,

Geert

Op vrijdag 3 maart 2023 13:31:14 CET schreef Derek Atkins:
> Hi.
> Indeed, it does appear that www.gnucash.org lost its brain and, although
> responding, is not the gnucash website.  I will notify Linas to ask what's
> up.
> As for # subscribers, we have a dozen lists with some overlapping
> subscriptions, but there are over 2000 subscribers to gnucash-user.
> 
> -derek
> 
> On Fri, March 3, 2023 7:13 am, Brad Morrison wrote:
> > Hi Ken, John, & all,
> > 
> > I just tried the link that Ken provided and it took me to some "Apache2
> > Ubuntu Default Page," but not the GnuCash homepage...?
> > 
> > I also tried the link that John provided and that seems to work fine for
> > the GnuCash homepage for me.
> > 
> > Is anyone else having similar results?
> > 
> > I would attach screenshots, but I don't know if the Mailman2 mailing
> > list software allows for that - ? I am on the board of the North Bay
> > Linux Users Group (NBLUG - https://nblug.org/) and we have gone through
> > some transition difficulties in our recent upgrade from MailMan2 to
> > MailMan3 (https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html), so when I
> > saw that these GnuCash mailing lists are still using MailMan2
> > (https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo) I made a mental note of
> > that. Although with the amount of email traffic /volume that I have seen
> > on this list, I am willing to bet that this list has far more
> > subscribers than all of our NBLUG lists combined (we have about 250 on
> > the 'talk' list and about 450 on the 'announce' list).
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Brad
> > 
> > On 2/21/23 21:00, Ken Pyzik wrote:
> >> Tested it this evening - 9:00PM PST in the
> >> US.www.gnucash.org  now appears to be working.
> >> FYI.
> >> 
> >> Ken
> >> 
> >> 
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> > On 2/19/23 15:40, John Ralls wrote:
> >> As most everyone already knowswww.gnucash.org  has been offline since 11
> >> February because Linas Vepstas lost internet access and his ISP, Grande
> >> Networks in Austin, TX, has not fixed it.
> >> 
> >> To provide replacement service until Linas gets back online we've set up
> >> an alternate site,https://code.gnucash.org/website/.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash,org url is now working

[Derek Atkins]

Hi.
Indeed, it does appear that www.gnucash.org lost its brain and, although
responding, is not the gnucash website.  I will notify Linas to ask what's
up.
As for # subscribers, we have a dozen lists with some overlapping
subscriptions, but there are over 2000 subscribers to gnucash-user.

-derek

On Fri, March 3, 2023 7:13 am, Brad Morrison wrote:
> Hi Ken, John, & all,
>
> I just tried the link that Ken provided and it took me to some "Apache2
> Ubuntu Default Page," but not the GnuCash homepage...?
>
> I also tried the link that John provided and that seems to work fine for
> the GnuCash homepage for me.
>
> Is anyone else having similar results?
>
> I would attach screenshots, but I don't know if the Mailman2 mailing
> list software allows for that - ? I am on the board of the North Bay
> Linux Users Group (NBLUG - https://nblug.org/) and we have gone through
> some transition difficulties in our recent upgrade from MailMan2 to
> MailMan3 (https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html), so when I
> saw that these GnuCash mailing lists are still using MailMan2
> (https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo) I made a mental note of
> that. Although with the amount of email traffic /volume that I have seen
> on this list, I am willing to bet that this list has far more
> subscribers than all of our NBLUG lists combined (we have about 250 on
> the 'talk' list and about 450 on the 'announce' list).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brad
>
> On 2/21/23 21:00, Ken Pyzik wrote:
>> Tested it this evening - 9:00PM PST in the
>> US.www.gnucash.org  now appears to be working.
>> FYI.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
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> On 2/19/23 15:40, John Ralls wrote:
>> As most everyone already knowswww.gnucash.org  has been offline since 11
>> February because Linas Vepstas lost internet access and his ISP, Grande
>> Networks in Austin, TX, has not fixed it.
>>
>> To provide replacement service until Linas gets back online we've set up
>> an alternate site,https://code.gnucash.org/website/.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash,org url is now working

[Brad Morrison]

Hi Ken, John, & all,

I just tried the link that Ken provided and it took me to some "Apache2 
Ubuntu Default Page," but not the GnuCash homepage...?


I also tried the link that John provided and that seems to work fine for 
the GnuCash homepage for me.


Is anyone else having similar results?

I would attach screenshots, but I don't know if the Mailman2 mailing 
list software allows for that - ? I am on the board of the North Bay 
Linux Users Group (NBLUG - https://nblug.org/) and we have gone through 
some transition difficulties in our recent upgrade from MailMan2 to 
MailMan3 (https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html), so when I 
saw that these GnuCash mailing lists are still using MailMan2 
(https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo) I made a mental note of 
that. Although with the amount of email traffic /volume that I have seen 
on this list, I am willing to bet that this list has far more 
subscribers than all of our NBLUG lists combined (we have about 250 on 
the 'talk' list and about 450 on the 'announce' list).


Thanks,

Brad

On 2/21/23 21:00, Ken Pyzik wrote:

Tested it this evening - 9:00PM PST in the 
US.www.gnucash.org  now appears to be working.  FYI.

Ken


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On 2/19/23 15:40, John Ralls wrote:

As most everyone already knowswww.gnucash.org  has been offline since 11 
February because Linas Vepstas lost internet access and his ISP, Grande 
Networks in Austin, TX, has not fixed it.

To provide replacement service until Linas gets back online we've set up an 
alternate site,https://code.gnucash.org/website/.

Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] Gnucash,org url is now working

[Ken Pyzik]

Tested it this evening - 9:00PM PST in the US.  
www.gnucash.org now appears to be working.  FYI.

Ken


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