Re: Smart card

2017-04-03 Thread Jan Koppe
Hello Will, somewhat off-topic, but.. On 04.04.2017 01:18, Will Senn wrote: > If this has been addressed recently, my apologies, I couldn't find a > search interface for gnupg-users... You can use a google query like this: "site:https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/ " This restricts t

Re: Smart card

2017-04-03 Thread Will Senn
On 4/3/17 11:48 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 04/03/2017 08:33 PM, Will Senn wrote: >> I didn't ask if I should get one. I asked if there were resources to >> help a newb make decisions regarding them. While I sense a certain >> disdain in your response, I'll make some clarifying comments in the hop

Re: Smart card

2017-04-03 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/03/2017 08:33 PM, Will Senn wrote: I didn't ask if I should get one. I asked if there were resources to help a newb make decisions regarding them. While I sense a certain disdain in your response, I'll make some clarifying comments in the hope that its worth the effort... Robert's answer

Re: Smart card

2017-04-03 Thread Will Senn
On 4/3/17 9:27 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> What do you mean by "will be better served by avoiding them"? What's the >> reservation? > Imagine we're in a restaurant and you ask me, "Should I order the > pizza?" Well, beats heck out of me. I don't know you from Adam, I > don't know your persona

Re: Smart card

2017-04-03 Thread alaricd
If you ask me... people don't want to learn anything, they are happy being ignorant and clueless about security. Sent from my android device. -Original Message- From: "Robert J. Hansen" To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org Sent: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 20:39 Subject: Re: Smart card > Are smartcards o

Re: Smart card

2017-04-03 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> What do you mean by "will be better served by avoiding them"? What's the > reservation? Imagine we're in a restaurant and you ask me, "Should I order the pizza?" Well, beats heck out of me. I don't know you from Adam, I don't know your personal tastes, I don't even know if you're hungry. So I

Re: Smart card

2017-04-03 Thread Will Senn
On 4/3/17 8:37 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> Are smartcards out of vogue? If not, can you suggest resources that will >> help a newb make decisions regarding them? > Smartcards are not out of vogue for people who need them. Those who > don't will be better served by avoiding them. Do you have a

Re: Complexities on faking one signature

2017-04-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Apr 02, 2017 at 07:12:38PM -0400, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > > 2. Enumerating the possible signature of that certain message and > > using the target's public key to verify if one of the signatures is > > correct. > > I'm not sure what you mean here; that's not how signatures work. > Signat

Re: Smart card

2017-04-03 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Are smartcards out of vogue? If not, can you suggest resources that will > help a newb make decisions regarding them? Smartcards are not out of vogue for people who need them. Those who don't will be better served by avoiding them. Do you have a need for one? If so, the kernelconcepts card wo

Re: Complexities on faking one signature

2017-04-03 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> I believe the OP is asking whether it'd be easier to brute-force a > signature than it is to brute-force a private key. Unimaginably harder to brute-force a sig. Since RSA is deterministic (at least, naïve RSA is), a sig is done on a digest (of let's say size 256 bits) and there are 2**256 diff

Smart card

2017-04-03 Thread Will Senn
In my PGP research, I have been looking for a smart card that supports openpgp. I found the OpenPGP Card Version 2.1 over at kernelconcepts, but I'm wondering if they are still operational. I also saw something called a Yubi Key on Amazon. I found this howto that is pretty dated: https://www.gnupg.

Re: some beginner questions

2017-04-03 Thread Will Senn
On 4/3/17 1:25 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > > > but > > I'm not having much luck signing with subkeys, so I'm not convinced this > > is worth the headache and increased complexity of key management. > > It's not really that hard to do, what kind of problems are you having? > The instructions at https:

A new bugtracker for GnuPG

2017-04-03 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi! Here is a plain text copy of Marcus' recent blog entry. The permanent URL is: <https://gnupg.org/blog/20170403-a-new-bugtracker-for-gnupg.html>. If you like to comment, please follow up on this mail. _ 201

[Announce] GnuPG 2.1.20 released

2017-04-03 Thread Werner Koch
Hello! The GnuPG team is pleased to announce the availability of a new release of GnuPG: version 2.1.20. See below for a list of new features and bug fixes. About GnuPG = The GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) is a complete and free implementation of the OpenPGP standard which is commonly a

That which we call a rose

2017-04-03 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 03/04/17 15:30, Doug Barton wrote: > We really need to stop referring to this as signing. I agree. But it might be too late. I used it as a means of explaining what I meant with "Certify capability". Next time I'll somehow work into my formulation that this should be called certification, not

Re: some beginner questions

2017-04-03 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/03/2017 04:20 AM, Peter Lebbing wrote: On 02/04/17 21:00, Neal H. Walfield wrote: In short, the main key acts as a level of indirection, which separates your identity from your encryption/signing keys. I'd like to extend this short description a bit :-). There is one important somewhat-c

Re: some beginner questions

2017-04-03 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/03/2017 04:16 AM, Peter Lebbing wrote: On 03/04/17 08:25, Doug Barton wrote: That said, as long as you have a suitable passphrase your risk of key compromise is really, really minimal, even if they did get total control over your device. Barring coercion, the chances of someone guessing yo

Re: some beginner questions

2017-04-03 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 02/04/17 21:00, Neal H. Walfield wrote: > In short, the main key acts as a level of indirection, which separates > your identity from your encryption/signing keys. I'd like to extend this short description a bit :-). There is one important somewhat-caveat, which is that you can't delegate the C

Re: some beginner questions

2017-04-03 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 03/04/17 08:25, Doug Barton wrote: > That said, as long as you have a suitable passphrase your risk of key > compromise is really, really minimal, even if they did get total control > over your device. Barring coercion, the chances of someone guessing your > passphrase is near zero. And currentl

Re: some beginner questions

2017-04-03 Thread Neal H. Walfield
Hi, At Sun, 2 Apr 2017 18:23:14 -0500, Will Senn wrote: > but at the end of > the day, I don't seem to be able to sign anything with the signing > subkey if the master key is not present (with sec instead of sec#). Do > you know how I get it to use the subkey (the manual says it will default > to