Re: Changing PINs of German bank card

2017-07-12 Thread Binarus
On 13.07.2017 01:19, MFPA wrote: > > > On Wednesday 12 July 2017 at 6:51:42 AM, in > , Binarus wrote:- > > >> and this means that such software would >> have to run on the >> card. > > Or The ATM. You are right. The ATM will get hold of the PIN in clear in case the user wants to change it, be

Re: Changing PINs of German bank card

2017-07-12 Thread Binarus
On 13.07.2017 01:23, MFPA wrote: > > > On Wednesday 12 July 2017 at 3:15:09 PM, in > , Binarus wrote:- > > > >> (if the >> PIN needs to be >> stored at all in some backend which I doubt). > > The Bank must know the PIN (or a hash). Otherwise they would not know > if you entered the correct PI

Re: Changing PINs of German bank card

2017-07-12 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wednesday 12 July 2017 at 3:15:09 PM, in , Binarus wrote:- > (if the > PIN needs to be > stored at all in some backend which I doubt). The Bank must know the PIN (or a hash). Otherwise they would not know if you entered the correct PIN for o

Re: Changing PINs of German bank card

2017-07-12 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wednesday 12 July 2017 at 6:51:42 AM, in , Binarus wrote:- >and this means that such software would > have to run on the > card. Or The ATM. But maybe chip and PIN cards have the capacity. - -- Best regards MFPA

Don't get the pinentry for passphrase in some contexts

2017-07-12 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi, I have the attached application below that just tries to decrypt a file with gpg2. When the gpg-agent has an empty cache (I temporarily set max-cache-ttl to 0 while testing), the application has different behavior when ran from a terminal or from a Firefox add-on: 1- in the terminal, I get th

Re: Changing PINs of German bank card

2017-07-12 Thread Binarus
On 12.07.2017 12:10, Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 12/07/17 07:51, Binarus wrote: >> Furthermore (not being sure, so read with care), I think that the bank >> does not know your pin > > When my bank card is replaced because its validity is about to end, the > new card has the same PIN as the old one.

OpenPGP Notations

2017-07-12 Thread Neal H. Walfield
Hi, I'm collection examples of notations. If you somehow use notations, I'd love to hear how you are using them. (If you prefer to remain anonymous, please feel free to reply privately.) Also, I'm curious if anyone has a good use for unsigned ("unhashed") notations. Thanks! :) Neal Key: 8F17

Re: Changing PINs of German bank card

2017-07-12 Thread Binarus
On 12.07.2017 12:27, NdK wrote: > Il 12/07/2017 12:01, Binarus ha scritto: > >> Not sure about that. Similar to serious websites which don't store your >> password in clear text, but do store the password's hash instead, I >> would expect that banks don't store your PIN in clear text as well. > Ev

Re: Changing PINs of German bank card

2017-07-12 Thread NdK
Il 12/07/2017 12:01, Binarus ha scritto: > Not sure about that. Similar to serious websites which don't store your > password in clear text, but do store the password's hash instead, I > would expect that banks don't store your PIN in clear text as well. Even with 6-digits PIN it would take *secon

Re: Changing PINs of German bank card

2017-07-12 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 12/07/17 07:51, Binarus wrote: > Furthermore (not being sure, so read with care), I think that the bank > does not know your pin When my bank card is replaced because its validity is about to end, the new card has the same PIN as the old one. I can't readily think of a way to do that without th

Re: Changing PINs of German bank card

2017-07-12 Thread Binarus
On 12.07.2017 11:42, Guan Xin wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Binarus > wrote: > > On 11.07.2017 20:38, MFPA wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday 11 July 2017 at 8:44:48 AM, in > > >

Re: Changing PINs of German bank card

2017-07-12 Thread Guan Xin
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Binarus wrote: > On 11.07.2017 20:38, MFPA wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday 11 July 2017 at 8:44:48 AM, in > > , Binarus wrote:- > > > > > >> I am not sure if this is an intentional limitation of > >> the cards (to > >> prevent users from choosing idiotic pins like 1

Re: Changing PINs of German bank card

2017-07-12 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> A little bit of statistics (your name sounds German): > http://www.sueddeutsche.de/wissen/unsichere-pin-codes-erwischt-1.1486312 I read the German, here's English): http://www.berklix.org/trans/ -> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2F