Re: On future of GnuPG

2021-01-05 Thread ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ via Gnupg-users
12021/00/04 08:01.47 ನಲ್ಲಿ, markus.ro...@neverbox.com ಬರೆದರು: > > On 2021-01-05 Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users - gnupg-users@gnupg.org wrote: > > ... but why are then SKS key servers > > still in operation, which allows third parties to look up who signed > > who's key and with what trust level

Re: On future of GnuPG

2021-01-05 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 12:09 AM Stefan Claas wrote: > What you say would fit more for a cross-platform OpenSource app > like Bitmessage, compared to PGP's or GnuPG's privacy philosophy. Regarding Bitmessage and OpenPGP. There was an announcement made last year about an Bitmessage OpenPGP chan, w

Re: On future of GnuPG

2021-01-05 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 9:05 PM wrote: > > On 2021-01-05 Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users - gnupg-users@gnupg.org wrote: > > ... but why are then SKS key servers > > still in operation, which allows third parties to look up who signed > > who's key and with what trust level and GnuPG's WoT support,

Re: On future of GnuPG

2021-01-05 Thread Robert J. Hansen via Gnupg-users
> The landscape has changed dramatically from the times when the > original PGP fundamentals were introduced. Today, for any secure > personal communication system to be of practical use, it must > be designed from the ground up observing the following simple > principle: *anonymity is the necessar

On future of GnuPG

2021-01-05 Thread markus . rosco
On 2021-01-05 Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users - gnupg-users@gnupg.org wrote: ... but why are then SKS key servers still in operation, which allows third parties to look up who signed who's key and with what trust level and GnuPG's WoT support, compared to sq and Hagrid? The landscape has chang

Re: Plan B - Who carries the torch?

2021-01-05 Thread Konstantin Ryabitsev via Gnupg-users
On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 09:46:01AM -0500, Robert J. Hansen via Gnupg-users wrote: > On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 15:38 +0100, Werner Koch via Gnupg-users wrote: > > Virtually nobody uses the WoT... > > Strangely, the Linux kernel folks still use it a decent amount. > They're the only large group I can

Re: Plan B - Who carries the torch?

2021-01-05 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 3:44 PM Werner Koch via Gnupg-users wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 07:27, Jean-David Beyer said: > > > Building a web of trust is so hopeless, from my point of view, that I > > have abandonned gnupg. I have made keys for myself, obtained enigmail > > Virtually nobody uses th

Re: Plan B - Who carries the torch?

2021-01-05 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:46, Robert J. Hansen said: > Strangely, the Linux kernel folks still use it a decent amount. There are indeed use cases for the WoT; in particular if you don't known your co-worker. However, in commerical or private settings the communication patterns are different from t

Re: Plan B - Who carries the torch?

2021-01-05 Thread Konstantin Ryabitsev via Gnupg-users
On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 07:27:14AM -0500, Jean-David Beyer via Gnupg-users wrote: > Building a web of trust is so hopeless, from my point of view, that I have > abandonned gnupg. I have made keys for myself, obtained enigmail for my > Firefox browser, etc. But those with whom I correspond by e-mai

Re: Plan B - Who carries the torch?

2021-01-05 Thread Robert J. Hansen via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 15:38 +0100, Werner Koch via Gnupg-users wrote: > Virtually nobody uses the WoT... Strangely, the Linux kernel folks still use it a decent amount. They're the only large group I can think of offhand, though. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message pa

Re: Plan B - Who carries the torch?

2021-01-05 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 07:27, Jean-David Beyer said: > Building a web of trust is so hopeless, from my point of view, that I > have abandonned gnupg. I have made keys for myself, obtained enigmail Virtually nobody uses the WoT. What people use are direct key signatures. That is you verify a key's

Re: Plan B - Who carries the torch?

2021-01-05 Thread Jean-David Beyer via Gnupg-users
On 1/5/21 8:24 AM, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 07:27:14AM -0500, Jean-David Beyer via Gnupg-users wrote: Building a web of trust is so hopeless, from my point of view, that I have abandonned gnupg. I have made keys for myself, obtained enigmail for my Firefox browser, et

Re: Plan B - Who carries the torch?

2021-01-05 Thread Jean-David Beyer via Gnupg-users
On 1/4/21 9:31 PM, ï¿œngel wrote: Finally, every user will need to discard their now-useless keys, generate new ones and rebuild the chain of turst from the ground up. Building a web of trust is so hopeless, from my point of view, that I have abandonned gnupg. I have made keys for myself, obta