On Tuesday 05 November 2013 at 08:39:42, rw...@countermail.com wrote:
> can BitMail.sf.net as a p2p email tool for encrypted Email (and hybrid with
> IMAP-Email) be regarded as a reference model for research to create a
> secure Email Client? as it uses both, gnupg and openssl!
>
> http://bitmail.s
> I don't think that's possible at the moment. There are no
> deterministically built operating systems yet.
This is rather sad. I think FreeBSD has
a project somewhere trying to move that way.
Hopefully all of the unix-likes are at least aware of
the concept, if not having an actual project for i
On 11/18/2013 1:52 AM, Johan Wevers wrote:
> Dijkstra's goal of formally prooving entire programs more complicated
> than hello world seems further away than ever. Don't loose any sleep
> over it, noone even tried that in practice anyway.
Well, yes and no. Provably-correct software is still a ver
On 18-11-2013 6:21, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> So even if
> you're running two binaries that are completely identical, the CPU may
> process them quite differently depending on the state of the system.
> This has some extraordinary implications for those who are trying to
> guarantee their CPU is o
On 11/17/2013 11:44 AM, d...@geer.org wrote:
> Well said. Two binaries can be execution identical except for their
> use of registers -- their use of registers being an artefact of the
> compiler.
In fact, it goes even deeper than that: many architectures allow their
processor to dynamically reor
| ... Further, getting two
| computers to generate the exact same binary code from the exact same
| source code is a surprisingly difficult challenge. It requires a
| perfect match of everything from compiler versions to C library
| versions right down to identical *clocks* -- becau
I am not in contact with bitmail in any way, I wouldn't use it myself
because I find the communication about bitmail very poor, namely no
responses to points raised by others. Anyway, I like to comment on a few
things raised here.
Ulex Europae:
> Robert'
> should upload his binaries to Github.
No
On 11/15/2013 12:06 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> getting two
> computers to generate the exact same binary code from the exact same
> source code is a surprisingly difficult challenge. It requires a
> perfect match of everything from compiler versions to C library versions
> right down to identic
I'm replying because, Sourceforge? They fell out of vogue...
For a service that's "out of vogue" they still host an awful lot of
Free Software, and for that I think perhaps we should be a bit
thankful. Their bundling is distasteful, yes, but it's hardly the end
of the world given they've
So... 'Robert', who do you work for? NSA? Financial crime?
FBI, actually, in counterintelligence. No, wait, whoops, wrong Robert
Hanssen. Sorry, I get confused about myself sometimes.
All kidding aside, we don't need to cast aspersions on the motives of
people who post here. It is far,
At 09:04 PM 11/13/2013, grarpamp wrote:
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:38 AM, wrote:
> Hello,
>
> can BitMail.sf.net as a p2p email tool for encrypted Email (and
hybrid with IMAP-Email) be regarded as a reference model for
research to create a secure Email Client? as it uses both, gnupg and openssl
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:38 AM, wrote:
> Hello,
>
> can BitMail.sf.net as a p2p email tool for encrypted Email (and hybrid with
> IMAP-Email) be regarded as a reference model for research to create a secure
> Email Client? as it uses both, gnupg and openssl!
>
> http://bitmail.sourceforge.net/
can BitMail.sf.net as a p2p email tool for encrypted Email (and
hybrid with IMAP-Email) be regarded as a reference model for
research to create a secure Email Client? as it uses both, gnupg and
openssl!
I would suggest figuring out very precisely what you intend by
"secure." Once you hav
Hello,
can BitMail.sf.net as a p2p email tool for encrypted Email (and hybrid with
IMAP-Email) be regarded as a reference model for research to create a secure
Email Client? as it uses both, gnupg and openssl!
http://bitmail.sourceforge.net/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/bitmail/files/BitMa
Hello,
can BitMail.sf.net as a p2p email tool for encrypted Email (and hybrid with
IMAP-Email) be regarded as a reference model for research to create a secure
Email Client? as it uses both, gnupg and openssl!
http://bitmail.sourceforge.net/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/bitmail/files/BitMa
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