Re: IDEA patent vs the recent USPTO memorandum

2009-09-16 Thread Joseph Oreste Bruni
On Wednesday, September 16, 2009, at 12:46PM, "Robert J. Hansen" wrote: >M.B.Jr. wrote: >> I've recently had access to this document, written by the "United >> States Patent and Trademark Office" (USPTO) which basically tries to >> ban software patents. > >The memorandum in question is eight p

Re: IDEA patent vs the recent USPTO memorandum

2009-09-16 Thread David Shaw
pp/opla/2009-08-25_interim_101_instructions.pdf the case is, I'm really interested in reading your opinions of what this could mean to optional OpenPGP ciphers like IDEA. Whether this means IDEA is okay or not patent-wise, I have a slightly different take on this: who cares about IDEA at t

Re: IDEA patent vs the recent USPTO memorandum

2009-09-16 Thread Robert J. Hansen
M.B.Jr. wrote: > I've recently had access to this document, written by the "United > States Patent and Trademark Office" (USPTO) which basically tries to > ban software patents. The memorandum in question is eight pages, twenty slides and two flowcharts. As a ballpark estimate that would mean it

IDEA patent vs the recent USPTO memorandum

2009-09-16 Thread M.B.Jr.
he case is, I'm really interested in reading your opinions of what this could mean to optional OpenPGP ciphers like IDEA. Regards, Marcio Barbado, Jr. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users

GPG2 - IDEA

2008-10-01 Thread Kevin Hilton
Ok, I've finally managed to compile the gpg2 package (the stable package, not svn) with cygwin. Is there a way to add idea support to gpg2 or is this feature not supported? Thanks -- Kevin Hilton ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnup

Re: Doe MediaCrypt (IDEA) exist anymore?

2008-09-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, unfortunately I have to decrypt some legacy apps files that does use IDEA. David Shaw wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 07:08:48AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I need to use GnuPG with older keys using IDEA. This is for commecial &g

Re: Doe MediaCrypt (IDEA) exist anymore?

2008-09-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I need to use GnuPG with older keys using IDEA. This is for commecial use. > I see that for commercial use, we need to purchase a license from It doesn't matter how you use it, that algorithm is patented in most countries and t

Re: Doe MediaCrypt (IDEA) exist anymore?

2008-09-18 Thread David Shaw
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 07:08:48AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > I need to use GnuPG with older keys using IDEA. This is for commecial use. > I see that for commercial use, we need to purchase a license from > MediaCrypt? But they do not seem to have a web sight any

Doe MediaCrypt (IDEA) exist anymore?

2008-09-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, I need to use GnuPG with older keys using IDEA. This is for commecial use. I see that for commercial use, we need to purchase a license from MediaCrypt? But they do not seem to have a web sight anymore. What do I do now? Where can I purchase the IDEA license? Thaks Rob -- View this

1.4.9 IDEA still works,// sorry, my mistake

2008-04-02 Thread vedaal
sorry, a silly oversight on my part, ;-(( IDEA loads fine on 1.4.9 vedaal any ads or links below this message are added by hushmail without -- Click to recieve credit card help and get out of debt fast. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/REAK6ZBOk4NIwhYiT5hHUXjgn2GYzFMx1ahERXmgLhbVQ6NHRxQfyn/ my

1.4.9 (IDEA not working?)

2008-04-02 Thread vedaal
have installed gnupg 1.4.9 using the windows binary, and IDEA no longer loads have tried this again on a usb drive, replacing all the gnupg 1.4.8 files with 1.4.9 files, but leaving the idea.dll, gpg.conf, keyrings and trust db the same as they were for 1.4.8 and even tested it before the

Re: IDEA?

2008-03-04 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Maury Markowitz wrote: > Didn't IDEA's patent expire last year? 2010, I think. Even once 2010 comes around, there's no point in using it. AES rules the roost for symmetric ciphers nowadays, and for fairly good reasons. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gn

Re: IDEA?

2008-03-04 Thread David Shaw
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 11:51:13AM -0500, Maury Markowitz wrote: > Didn't IDEA's patent expire last year? I notice it's still not in the > list unless I load it by hand. Is there something else preventing it > from being used? It's patented until 2010 (2011 in some

IDEA?

2008-03-04 Thread Maury Markowitz
Didn't IDEA's patent expire last year? I notice it's still not in the list unless I load it by hand. Is there something else preventing it from being used? Maury ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/

IDEA not always working in GNUPG

2008-03-04 Thread Anonymous Remailer (austria)
Hi, I occasionally receive messages encrypted by older PGP versions that are not being decrypted by GNUPG 1.4.7 [scrubbed] gpg filename gpg: assuming IDEA encrypted data Enter passphrase: [scrubbed] gpg: [don't know]: invalid packet (ctb=67) gpg: WARNING: message was not integrity prot

Re: IDEA

2008-01-30 Thread Laurent Jumet
Hello Werner ! Werner Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...about IDEA.DLL and GnuPG 1.4.8 : I still have LoadExtension c:\lib\gnupg\idea.dll in my config. Is this obsolete? -- Laurent Jumet KeyID: 0xCFAF704C ___ Gnupg-users mailing lis

Re: IDEA

2008-01-30 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Changed to: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Data_Encryption_Algorithm#Security Thanks, RMS should be proud of you ;-). Salam-Shalom, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Auschnahme regelt ein Bundeschgesetz. ___

Re: IDEA

2008-01-30 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Hope I don't get in trouble for posting this, however the idea module Noproblem, that information is anyway available at gnupg.org: http://www.gnupg.org/faq/why-not-idea.html Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken s

Re: IDEA

2008-01-30 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > It would be correct to say that Gentoo does not distribute GnuPG > binaries, with or without IDEA. The package management system > (portage) gathers tarballs, patches, etc., constructs a source tree, > and compiles it on the t

Re: IDEA

2008-01-29 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:33:59PM +0200, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > On 1/29/08, Werner Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > > > Gentoo is providing this only if a user specify build from source and > > >

Re: IDEA

2008-01-29 Thread Robert J. Hansen
rnment regulations for some kinds of transactions. Pitch it as "we should look into migrating to AES now, rather than do a rushed job of it at the last minute" and you may find things easier. While IDEA is for time being a safe choice, it is not a government standard and is unlikely to ever play

RE: IDEA

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Olsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Koch >I also consider helping an idea patenter by linking to his web site a bad >idea. > That company has several times tried to force me to advertise that the

IDEA

2008-01-29 Thread Kevin Hilton
Hope I don't get in trouble for posting this, however the idea module can be found here: wget ftp://ftp.gnupg.dk/pub/contrib-dk/idea.c.gz -- Kevin Hilton ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: IDEA

2008-01-29 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On 1/29/08, Alon Bar-Lev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I also consider helping an idea patenter by linking to his web site a > > bad idea. That company has several times tried to force me to advertise > > that the gnupg docs should mention that idea can be bought from t

Re: IDEA

2008-01-29 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On 1/29/08, Werner Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > Gentoo is providing this only if a user specify build from source and > > ask idea explicitly. > > Also Gentoo enforces dropping idea when binary redist

Re: IDEA

2008-01-29 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Werner Koch schrieb: > [... IDEA/GPL woes ...] Though I recently had a valid reason; I was in posession of a very old legacy RSA-keypair which I created quite a long time ago with PGP 2.something. I just wanted to revoke that key, but in order

Re: IDEA

2008-01-29 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Gentoo is providing this only if a user specify build from source and > ask idea explicitly. > Also Gentoo enforces dropping idea when binary redistribution is made. This has nothing to do with binary vs. source distribution. The GP

Re: IDEA

2008-01-25 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
oo is violating the GPL (section 7) by providing a > IDEA riddled GnuPG. No. Gentoo is providing this only if a user specify build from source and ask idea explicitly. Also Gentoo enforces dropping idea when binary redistribution is made. Please refer to: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/ge

Re: IDEA

2008-01-25 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > For gnupg-2: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-crypt/gnupg/files/gnupg-2.0.4-idea.patch?rev=1.1&view=markup It seems that Gentoo is violating the GPL (section 7) by providing a IDEA riddled GnuPG. Shalom-Salam,

RE: IDEA

2008-01-24 Thread McDougall, Marshall (STEM)
Thanks to all who responded. It looks like we are making the decision to dump IDEA as it's not an officially supported cipher in our environment. Regards, Marshall >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Zullinger &g

Re: IDEA

2008-01-23 Thread Todd Zullinger
McDougall, Marshall (STEM) wrote: > Hi All. > > First postbe gentle :-} > > I have a RHEL server and I am having difficulty decrypting a pgp > encrypted file. Near as I can tell, I need the IDEA cipher. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg --decrypt myfile.txt > gpg: p

Re: IDEA

2008-01-23 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi All. > > First postbe gentle :-} > > I have a RHEL server and I am having difficulty decrypting a pgp encrypted > file. Near as I can tell, I need the IDEA cipher. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg --decrypt myfile.txt > gpg: protec

IDEA

2008-01-23 Thread McDougall, Marshall (STEM)
Hi All. First postbe gentle :-} I have a RHEL server and I am having difficulty decrypting a pgp encrypted file. Near as I can tell, I need the IDEA cipher. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg --decrypt myfile.txt gpg: protection algorithm 1 (IDEA) is not supported gpg: the IDEA cipher plugin is not

Re: IDEA licensing issues

2008-01-22 Thread David Shaw
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 05:23:21PM -0600, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Alan Olsen wrote: >> I have been trying to find what it takes to get a license for using >> IDEA with gpg. > > The first question is why you need IDEA in the first place. It's a usable > cipher,

Re: IDEA licensing issues

2008-01-21 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Alan Olsen wrote: I have been trying to find what it takes to get a license for using IDEA with gpg. The first question is why you need IDEA in the first place. It's a usable cipher, but it's hardly a paragon of modern design. Better than brute force attacks exist against at le

IDEA licensing issues

2008-01-21 Thread Alan Olsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I have been trying to find what it takes to get a license for using IDEA with gpg. All attempts to connect to www.mediacrypt.com have been unsuccesful. Anyone know what is going on with this company? Thanks. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: [HELP NEEDED] GnuPG-1.4 IDEA migration to GnuPG-2.0

2007-01-28 Thread David Shaw
It's the one the gnupg team recommend! > > > gpg2 should be backward compatible... I would like to make it work > > too... :) > > I understand that IDEA isn't OpenPGP compatible and, besides, the 1.4.x > branch will continue to be maintained and developed. It'

Re: [HELP NEEDED] GnuPG-1.4 IDEA migration to GnuPG-2.0

2007-01-28 Thread Werner Koch
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > This is the easy way out :) > gpg2 should be backward compatible... I would like to make it work too... :) IDEA is not even supported by 1.4 - it is kind of coincidence that there is a way to plugin the IDEA module ;-) Thus there will

Re: [HELP NEEDED] GnuPG-1.4 IDEA migration to GnuPG-2.0

2007-01-28 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
make it work > too... :) I understand that IDEA isn't OpenPGP compatible and, besides, the 1.4.x branch will continue to be maintained and developed. Perhaps someone from the devel team would like to comment? Ben ___ Gnupg-users mai

Re: [HELP NEEDED] GnuPG-1.4 IDEA migration to GnuPG-2.0

2007-01-28 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On 1/28/07, Benjamin Donnachie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do they /absolutely/ need to use GPG v2? If not, it's probably going to > be easier if they go back to using v1.4.x... This is the easy way out :) gpg2 should be backward compatible... I would like to make it work too... :) Best Regards

Re: [HELP NEEDED] GnuPG-1.4 IDEA migration to GnuPG-2.0

2007-01-28 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > The users used IDEA algorithm in GnuPG-1.4, and are unable to use > their keys in GnuPG-2.0. Do they /absolutely/ need to use GPG v2? If not, it's probably going to be easier if they go back to using v1.4.x... Ben __

[HELP NEEDED] GnuPG-1.4 IDEA migration to GnuPG-2.0

2007-01-21 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
Hello, Can anyone help some of our (Gentoo) users solving a migration issue they have? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159870 The users used IDEA algorithm in GnuPG-1.4, and are unable to use their keys in GnuPG-2.0. The libgcrypt was patched to enable IDEA algorithm. Any help will be

Re: Use of IDEA in GnuPG 2

2006-11-15 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
Original Message Subject: [Enigmail] IDEA Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:18:44 +0100 From: Kristian Fiskerstrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Enigmail user discussion list Organisation: The Mozdev Foundation - news server To: enigmail@mozdev.org Newsgroups: public.mozdev.en

Re: Use of IDEA in GnuPG 2

2006-11-14 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > The 1.x methods of using IDEA in GnuPG don't work anymore with 2.0. You are still not giving upon this :-) IIRC, you need to wait only 4 more years for official support. Salam-Shalom,

Use of IDEA in GnuPG 2

2006-11-14 Thread Johan Wevers
Hello, The 1.x methods of using IDEA in GnuPG don't work anymore with 2.0. I assume I have to add IDEA to libgcrypt. Does anyone know how to do that? Is there an easy way or does it require changing the idea.c source and/or some makefiles to work? -- ir. J.C.A. Wevers // Physic

Re: pgp keys in gnupg: IDEA need for all recipients?

2005-06-30 Thread Mark Kirchner
Werner Koch wrote: >>Yes, as long as your key requires the use of IDEA-encryption, >>everybody who's trying to encrypt to you has to use an IDEA-enabled > > Nope. IDEA is an optional algorithm in OpenPGP. All OpenPGP > compliant applications will use 3DES as the defaul

Re: pgp keys in gnupg: IDEA need for all recipients?

2005-06-30 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:23:17 +0200, Mark Kirchner said: > Yes, as long as your key requires the use of IDEA-encryption, > everybody who's trying to encrypt to you has to use an IDEA-enabled Nope. IDEA is an optional algorithm in OpenPGP. All OpenPGP compliant applications will use

Re: pgp keys in gnupg: IDEA need for all recipients?

2005-06-30 Thread Mark Kirchner
Ugh, apologies for the direct reply to Uwe Brauer instead of the list. Uwe Brauer wrote: > [pgp2.6.3 key & IDEA]. As I understand it I have to compile idea.c > (and maybe rsa.c or rsaref.c) in order to use my key. > > However does this mean that _every_ user who will use

pgp keys in gnupg: IDEA need for all recipients?

2005-06-30 Thread Uwe Brauer
/pgp2x.html and followed the steps indicated. One thing remains unclear to me: it concerns IDEA. As I understand it I have to compile idea.c (and maybe rsa.c or rsaref.c) in order to use my key. However does this mean that _every_ user who will use my public key, should do the *same*? I tried

Encrypting for a user who has a IDEA public key

2005-05-03 Thread vedaal
mconahan at zixtestott.com wrote: >I created a PGP keypair using a PGPCorp desktop client, where the > key used the IDEA cipher. I then exported the public cert, and > successfully imported it into GnuPG. I then was able to encrypt a > message for the PGPCorp user, and the

RE: Encrypting for a user who has a IDEA public key

2005-05-03 Thread Ryan Malayter
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is this expected behaviour of > GnuPG? I thought GnuPG does not support the IDEA algorithm in any > form. Could someone please shed some light on this? The default fallback algorithm is 3DES... All OpenPGP-compliant programs must support it. If GnuPG can

Re: Encrypting for a user who has a IDEA public key

2005-05-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I created a PGP keypair using a PGPCorp desktop client, where the key used the IDEA cipher. I then exported the public cert, and successfully imported it into GnuPG. I then was able to encrypt a message for the PGPCorp user, and the PGPCorp user was

Encrypting for a user who has a IDEA public key

2005-05-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi everyone, I created a PGP keypair using a PGPCorp desktop client, where the key used the IDEA cipher. I then exported the public cert, and successfully imported it into GnuPG. I then was able to encrypt a message for the PGPCorp user, and the PGPCorp user was able to decrypt the

Lib\idea could not be found error - Follow-up

2005-03-24 Thread Servie Platon
ms: > > > Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA > > > gpg: LoadLibrary failed: The system cannot find > > the > > > file specified. > > > > > > gpg: invalid module `Lib\idea': The specified > > module > > > could not be found. > >

Re: Lib\idea could not be found error

2005-03-15 Thread Servie Platon
t; the > > file specified. > > > > gpg: invalid module `Lib\idea': The specified > module > > could not be found. As what Mr. Clizbe suggested, if idea.dll is not really needed, I might as well remove this feature due to patent and other issues. After removing the idea.

Re: Lib\idea could not be found error

2005-03-15 Thread venona
Hello Servie, > Home: C:/Documents and Settings/servie/Application > Data/GnuPG > Supported algorithms: > Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA > gpg: LoadLibrary failed: The system cannot find the > file specified. > > gpg: invalid module `Lib\idea': The specifie

Re: [Enigmail] Lib\idea could not be found error

2005-03-14 Thread John Clizbe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Servie Platon wrote: > Hi folks, > > I got this error message after I issued the command > shown below: > > > gpg: invalid module `Lib\idea': The specified module > could not be found. > > Cipher: 3DES, C

Lib\idea could not be found error

2005-03-14 Thread Servie Platon
The system cannot find the file specified. gpg: invalid module `Lib\idea': The specified module could not be found. Cipher: 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512 Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB, BZIP2 Would you guys know w

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