Re: Mail-Followup-To (was Re: IDEA License)

2013-03-29 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 27/03/13 14:40, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > I created it, as far as I recall, from my copy direct from Ulrich, > > which had no Mail-Followup-To > > Correct, the problem originated when you replied[1] to Werner's mail[2]. > Werner's mail had the following header: > > Ma

Mail-Followup-To (was Re: IDEA License)

2013-03-27 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 27/03/13 14:40, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > I created it, as far as I recall, from my copy direct from Ulrich, > which had no Mail-Followup-To Correct, the problem originated when you replied[1] to Werner's mail[2]. Werner's mail had the following header: Mail-Followup-To: "Julian H. Stacey" ,

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-27 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 27/03/13 12:41, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Thanks Ulrich for your email below, > > It didn't make it to gnupg-users@gnupg.org & to > > http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2013-March/date.html#end > > Posts by non-subscribers are moderated (held for approval by

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-27 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 27/03/13 12:41, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Thanks Ulrich for your email below, > It didn't make it to gnupg-users@gnupg.org & to > http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2013-March/date.html#end Posts by non-subscribers are moderated (held for approval by a moderator). That's why it took

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-27 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Thanks Ulrich for your email below, It didn't make it to gnupg-users@gnupg.org & to http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2013-March/date.html#end so I'm appending it & will point to it from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Data_Encryption_Algorithm#Availability

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-27 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, Julian H Stacey wrote: > OK I added Ulrich M to cc > He can add URL to wikipedia of expiry date of Japan IDEA paent > if he wants, or I will if he mails it me. > A dead patent is a good patent ;-) IANAL, TINLA, but the term of patent in Japan seems to be 20 years and it

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-26 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Data_Encryption_Algorithm#Availability > From: Werner Koch Werner Koch wrote: > On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 01:38, j...@berklix.com said: > > > So to wikipedia, after "Japan" I appended "expired 2011-05-16" > > I could edit in an href'd citation

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-26 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 01:38, j...@berklix.com said: > So to wikipedia, after "Japan" I appended "expired 2011-05-16" > I could edit in an href'd citation to wikipedia, if URL known ? I don't know; the dates are by Ulrich Müller Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen re

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-26 Thread David Smith
On 03/26/13 10:30, Jan Chaloupecky wrote: > Sorry, I sent the last mail only to Hubert. > > > I was saying that Squeeze does not have in any of its repositories the > versions that support IDEA: > > Max version of GnuPG is 1.4.12 > http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gnupg&searchon=names

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-26 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:30, chal...@gmail.com said: > Compiling and shipping IDEA means that I have to provide the sources of my > software, correct? You always have to provide the source of GPG software (or a written offer). Simply linking to Debian is not sufficient if you distribute a binary f

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-26 Thread David Smith
On 03/25/13 20:05, Jan Chaloupecky wrote: > On Monday, March 25, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Werner Koch wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:00, chal...@gmail.com >>> so the question is .. can I ship the idea shared object with my software? >>> The idea.c contains the following comments. So if I understand it >>

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-26 Thread Jan Chaloupecky
Sorry, I sent the last mail only to Hubert. I was saying that Squeeze does not have in any of its repositories the versions that support IDEA: Max version of GnuPG is 1.4.12 http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gnupg&searchon=names&exact=1&suite=all§ion=all Max version of libgcrypt is 1.5

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi gnupg-users@gnupg.org cc Werner K. I wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Data_Encryption_Algorithm#Availability Werner posted: > Meanwhile the patent expired: > * Patents on IDEA have expired: > * Europe: EP0482154 on 2011-05-16, > * Japan: JP3225440 on 2011-05-16,

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Hubert Kario
On Monday 25 of March 2013 21:05:02 Jan Chaloupecky wrote: > On Monday, March 25, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Werner Koch wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:00, chal...@gmail.com (mailto:chal...@gmail.com) said: > > > I have to use GnuPG 1.4.10 and a self compiled idea.c from here > > > > You better use 1.4.

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Jan Chaloupecky
On Monday, March 25, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Werner Koch wrote: > On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:00, chal...@gmail.com (mailto:chal...@gmail.com) said: > > > I have to use GnuPG 1.4.10 and a self compiled idea.c from here > > You better use 1.4.13. I have to stick to the version provided by Debian Squeeze a

(OT) Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 25/03/13 20:49, Doug Barton wrote: > Thus endeth the lesson, Yeah, after I wrote my reply, I wondered if it was even wise to fight fire with fire. So the lesson didn't come entirely unexpected. I respectfully disagree that the mail didn't warrant a reply at all. One could also simply point out

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/25/2013 12:38 PM, Peter Lebbing wrote: On 25/03/13 20:06, Doug Barton wrote: He clarified that in a subsequent post. The usual netiquette is to read the entire thread before responding to any individual post. I see only one post by Julian H Stacey, I should have been more explicit. The

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:00, chal...@gmail.com said: > I have to use GnuPG 1.4.10 and a self compiled idea.c from here You better use 1.4.13. > ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/gentoo/distfiles/idea.c.gz > > so the question is .. can I ship the idea shared object with my software? > The idea.c co

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 25/03/13 20:06, Doug Barton wrote: > He clarified that in a subsequent post. The usual netiquette is to read the > entire thread before responding to any individual post. I see only one post by Julian H Stacey, and the web archive[1] agrees, so maybe you got a private mail? (But why?) Anyway,

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/25/2013 12:01 PM, Peter Lebbing wrote: On 25/03/13 14:22, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, is the IDEA algorithm licensed? Wrong question ! Try: copyright? patented? Copyright on an algorithm? Don't you mean a particular implementation of the algorithm? IOW: Wrong question, nex

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 25/03/13 14:22, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> Hi, >> is the IDEA algorithm licensed? > > Wrong question ! Try: copyright? patented? Copyright on an algorithm? Don't you mean a particular implementation of the algorithm? IOW: Wrong question, next try? Peter. -- I use the GNU Privacy

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Jan Chaloupecky
It is clear to me that the patent expired but it is not clear how I'm allowed to use the sourced of idea.c I have to use GnuPG 1.4.10 and a self compiled idea.c from here ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/gentoo/distfiles/idea.c.gz so the question is .. can I ship the idea shared object with my s

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread David Shaw
On Mar 25, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Jan Chaloupecky wrote: > Hi, > is the IDEA algorithm licensed? Under which conditions am I allowed to use > the idea extension in a commercial product? It was a patented algorithm which required a license. The patent has since expired (and in fact it was difficult

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> Hi, > is the IDEA algorithm licensed? Wrong question ! Try: copyright? patented? > Under which conditions am I allowed to use > the idea extension in a commercial product? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Data_Encryption_Algorithm#Availability Cheers, Julian -- Julia

Re: IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:46, chal...@gmail.com said: > is the IDEA algorithm licensed? Under which conditions am I allowed to use > the idea extension in a commercial product? I assume your question is: Is the IDEA algorithm patented? It was patented and this was one or the main reasons to develop

IDEA License

2013-03-25 Thread Jan Chaloupecky
Hi, is the IDEA algorithm licensed? Under which conditions am I allowed to use the idea extension in a commercial product? cheers -- Jan ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users