Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-10-10 Thread Ben McGinnes
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 08:40:38AM +, ankostis wrote: > But it doesn't have to be XML! > Besides ETSI, the european organization implementing eIDAS has 3 "standards" > (e.g. [1]): > XADES(XML), PADES (pdf), CADES - the last one doubting if it has any > modern use. > > Why not push them for a n

Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-10-10 Thread ankostis
But it doesn't have to be XML! Besides ETSI, the european organization implementing eIDAS has 3 "standards" (e.g. [1]): XADES(XML), PADES (pdf), CADES - the last one doubting if it has any modern use. Why not push them for a new PGPADES standard? Best, Kostis [1] https://blogs.adobe.com/securi

Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-06-02 Thread Ben McGinnes
On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 09:39:51PM +0200, Werner Koch wrote: > On Wed, 31 May 2017 19:34, ankos...@gmail.com said: > > | >>I have some questions related to XML-Dsig: > | > > | >Argghh!! Run away! > | > | A near-universal reaction. > > XML crypto can be summarized as > we-repeat-all-bugs-the-

Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-06-02 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 31 May 2017 19:34, ankos...@gmail.com said: > More detailed, from the three standards supported, only the last one, > XML-sig, supports PGP: https://www.w3.org/TR/xmldsig-core/#sec-PGPData That looks pretty much like a re-specification of PKCS#15 which also has provisions for PGP and SPKI

Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-05-31 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 31/05/17 19:34, ankostis wrote: > On 31 May 2017 at 15:14, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> >> Are the CMS, PDF or XML standards flexible enough that a PGP signature >> could be used within any of them and thereby satisfy the legislation? > > IANAL, but I would agree with Reiner that the implementing

Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-05-31 Thread ankostis
On 31 May 2017 at 15:14, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Are the CMS, PDF or XML standards flexible enough that a PGP signature > could be used within any of them and thereby satisfy the legislation? IANAL, but I would agree with Reiner that the implementing acts are not technology-neutral. More detaile

Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-05-31 Thread Rainer Hoerbe
> Am 31.05.2017 um 15:14 schrieb Daniel Pocock : > > Are the CMS, PDF or XML standards flexible enough that a PGP signature > could be used within any of them and thereby satisfy the legislation? > Or could any of those standards potentially be amended/extended to allow > use of PGP signatures?

Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-05-31 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 31/05/17 13:54, Rainer Hoerbe wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > The eIDAS regulation is replacing the national e-signature laws to make > signatures (besides other other things) interoperable across borders. > While the law is fairly technology-neutral, the implementation acts have > to reference speci

Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-05-31 Thread Rainer Hoerbe
Hi Daniel, The eIDAS regulation is replacing the national e-signature laws to make signatures (besides other other things) interoperable across borders. While the law is fairly technology-neutral, the implementation acts have to reference specific technologies, which are CMS, PDF- and XML signa

Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-05-31 Thread Stefan Claas
Am 31.05.2017 um 12:18 schrieb Daniel Pocock: Hi Stefan, Thanks for sharing these. Unfortunately my German skills are not great, could you make any comment about those companies? In particular, - does a signature from either of these comply with eIDAS (and therefore ZertES)? - what effort

Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-05-31 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 30/05/17 22:17, Stefan Claas wrote: > > > On 30.05.17 08:05, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> >> Does anybody know of certificate authorities who are willing to sign PGP >> keys or has anybody ever looked into making that happen? > Hi Daniel, > > please check those two links: > > https://pgp.govern

Re: PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-05-30 Thread Stefan Claas
On 30.05.17 08:05, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Does anybody know of certificate authorities who are willing to sign PGP > keys or has anybody ever looked into making that happen? Hi Daniel, please check those two links: https://pgp.governikus-eid.de/pgp/ https://www.heise.de/security/dienste/PGP-S

PGP for official documents / eIDAS and ZertES

2017-05-30 Thread Daniel Pocock
Hi all, Can PGP / GnuPG be used in a way that makes signatures compliant with the European eIDAS[1] or Switzerland's ZertES[2]? Do those standards explicitly require X.509 based solutions? Or could a certificate authority sign people's PGP keys and their PGP key could then be used for signing o