Re: Rotating encryption keys

2016-01-21 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 21/01/16 16:17, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > Not following this thread too closely, but I expect --show-session-key > and --override-session-key has been discussed. No, not in this thread. I hadn't mentioned it since I focussed on the archival and rotation aspect, not access to a specific ses

Re: Rotating encryption keys

2016-01-21 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 01/21/2016 01:09 PM, Peter Lebbing wrote: > (oops, accidentally forgot copy to list, sorry for thread breaks) > > On 2016-01-21 11:29, Lachlan Gunn wrote: >> Speaking of which, is there any solution around for session key >> archiving? > > Not

Re: Rotating encryption keys

2016-01-21 Thread Lachlan Gunn
> > I don't understand, what are the session keys encrypted with? I thought > they > were encrypted to the original smartcard subkey, which is dead. With two > smartcards, you might be able to get by if you get all your correspondents > to > use the new subkey before the second smartcard dies. It s

Re: Rotating encryption keys

2016-01-21 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 21/01/16 13:34, Lachlan Gunn wrote: > Then you rotate to the new key with little or no data loss because all of > the session keys are logged. You can generate the key on-chip so that it is > unable to ever leave the smartcard, which is obviously desirable from a > security point of view. I do

On-card key generation (was: Rotating encryption keys)

2016-01-21 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 21/01/16 13:34, Lachlan Gunn wrote: > You can generate the key on-chip so that it is unable to ever leave the > smartcard, which is obviously desirable from a security point of view. I think I prefer off-card generation, with GnuPG's random number generator, rather than some low-power, propriet

Re: Rotating encryption keys

2016-01-21 Thread Lachlan Gunn
> > I'd say that's a bad idea anyway. What if the smartcard breaks? > Then you rotate to the new key with little or no data loss because all of the session keys are logged. You can generate the key on-chip so that it is unable to ever leave the smartcard, which is obviously desirable from a secur

Rotating encryption keys (was: problem signing with a smart card)

2016-01-21 Thread Peter Lebbing
(oops, accidentally forgot copy to list, sorry for thread breaks) On 2016-01-21 11:29, Lachlan Gunn wrote: > Speaking of which, is there any solution around for session key > archiving? Not that I'm aware of. > Key transition would be a bit more convenient if there > were some way to automatical

Re: Rotating encryption keys

2016-01-21 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 21/01/16 12:32, Lachlan Gunn wrote: > The first reason is that you can't do it if the key only exists on a > smart card. I'd say that's a bad idea anyway. What if the smartcard breaks? > The second is that you now have to do one decryption per > message, so if the key is on a smartcard then it

Re: Rotating encryption keys (was: problem signing with a smart card)

2016-01-21 Thread Lachlan Gunn
> Not that I'm aware of. Ok, thanks, might make an interesting project then if I get some more free time. > Without any rigorous thought having yet gone into it, it seems they have the same /effective/ properties. The first reason is that you can't do it if the key only exists on a smart card.