Re: SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-20 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Fri 2016-03-18 03:21:30 -0400, Werner Koch wrote: > Most people are actually not able to check even the SHA-1 checksums > because they are missing a tool to do so (e.g. Windows) and have not the > knowledge to install or compile and audit a shaXsum tool. On any modern Windows installation (sinc

Re: SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-19 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/17/2016 01:00 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: so if the server was to be compromised in some way ... ... the checksum (that you are downloading from the same server) becomes useless. Doug ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org

Re: SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-19 Thread Fabian Santiago
> > What is your threat model? FWIW, pre-image attacks on SHA-1 are not > even on the horizon. > Pre-image attack? - Fabian s ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users

(slightly OT) SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-19 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 17/03/16 19:01, Daniel Villarreal wrote: > Clarifications and updates on APT + SHA1 > https://juliank.wordpress.com/2016/03/15/clarifications-and-updates-on-apt-sha1/ > "...note that SHA1 support is not dropped, we merely do not consider > it trustworthy." This page then continues: > This mea

Re: SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-19 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/17/2016 08:44 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > FWIW, the threat model of digest algorithms being published on an > HTTPS website that then links to the file to be downloaded is much > easier to work around than by compromising SHA-1's preima

Re: SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-19 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Friday 18 March 2016 at 2:45:28 PM, in , Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On any modern Windows installation (since Vista at > least, i think) there > is "certutil.exe" > https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc732443.aspx#BKMK_hashfile >

Re: SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 19:01, youcanli...@gmail.com said: > Any idea when you'll replace the SHA-1 checksums at the following page? What is your threat model? FWIW, pre-image attacks on SHA-1 are not even on the horizon. Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein B

Re: SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Thu 2016-03-17 15:34:08 -0400, Fabian Santiago wrote: >> >> What is your threat model? FWIW, pre-image attacks on SHA-1 are not >> even on the horizon. >> > > Pre-image attack? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preimage_attack FWIW, the threat model of digest algorithms being published on an HT

Re: SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 08:21, w...@gnupg.org said: > I'll look at how we can improve the description on the web page. Actually the current text does not look too bad: If you are not able to use an old version of GnuPG, you can still verify the file's SHA-1 checksum. This is less secure, beca

Re: SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:45, d...@fifthhorseman.net said: > On any modern Windows installation (since Vista at least, i think) there > is "certutil.exe" I know but I have also seen on the gpg4win mailing list that people have problems using it or any other tool. Also worse than checksums or real s

Re: SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:44, d...@fifthhorseman.net said: > FWIW, the threat model of digest algorithms being published on an HTTPS > website that then links to the file to be downloaded is much easier to > work around than by compromising SHA-1's preimage resistance (or even I fully agree and I vi

Re: SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-18 Thread Brian Minton
Windows has certutil built-in. On Fri, Mar 18, 2016, 3:27 AM Werner Koch wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:44, d...@fifthhorseman.net said: > > > FWIW, the threat model of digest algorithms being published on an HTTPS > > website that then links to the file to be downloaded is much easier to > > w

SHA-1 checksums to be replaced with something better at https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html ?

2016-03-18 Thread Daniel Villarreal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Any idea when you'll replace the SHA-1 checksums at the following page? https://gnupg.org/download/integrity_check.html List of SHA-1 check-sums For your convenience, all SHA-1 check-sums available for software that can be downloaded from our site,