Re: UK Guardian newspaper publishes USA NSA papers

2013-12-07 Thread dan
You don't need to be talking to a terror suspect to have your communications data analysed by the NSA. The agency is allowed to travel three hops from its targets. Barnett, Facebook Cuts Six Degrees of Separation to Four, 22 November 2011

Re: UK Guardian newspaper publishes USA NSA papers

2013-11-04 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Monday 4 November 2013 at 8:07:01 PM, in mid:201311042007.ra4k71qh085...@fire.js.berklix.net, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Talking about an alien loathed three letter agency ... See 4 top secret papers from it published by UK's Guardian

UK Guardian newspaper publishes USA NSA papers

2013-11-04 Thread Julian H. Stacey
information which could be of importance for a three letter agency. In Talking about an alien loathed three letter agency ... See 4 top secret papers from it published by UK's Guardian newspaper today :-) at the bottom of this link

Re: UK Guardian newspaper publishes USA NSA papers

2013-11-04 Thread Jean-David Beyer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/04/2013 04:29 PM, MFPA wrote: That's phenomenal: isn't everybody in the world separated by an average of just six hops? I tried to check that out, and I have never needed more than about three hops. Three hops to former president Richard

Re: UK Guardian newspaper publishes USA NSA papers

2013-11-04 Thread Richard Ibbotson
On Monday 04 Nov 2013 21:07:01 Julian H. Stacey wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/snowden-nsa -files-surveillance-revelations-decoded And in other news... http://slashdot.org/topic/datacenter/google-chief-eric-schmidt-slams-nsa-for-tapping-datacenters/ Google

Re: UK Guardian newspaper publishes USA NSA papers

2013-11-04 Thread Robert J. Hansen
That's phenomenal: isn't everybody in the world separated by an average of just six hops? That's more urban myth than reality. Reality is hard to model. An isolated village in a remote area of Africa might have a very hard time connecting to London in six hops, but the instant one

Re: UK Guardian newspaper publishes USA NSA papers

2013-11-04 Thread Robert J. Hansen
I tried to check that out, and I have never needed more than about three hops. Sure, but then again you're trying to hit people with *extremely* large networks, and whose first-order networks are themselves *extremely* well-connected. Even the exotic ones like Ronald Coase -- he

Re: UK Guardian newspaper publishes USA NSA papers

2013-11-04 Thread Richard Ibbotson
On Monday 04 Nov 2013 21:07:01 Julian H. Stacey wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/snowden-nsa -files-surveillance-revelations-decoded And in other news... http://slashdot.org/topic/datacenter/google-chief-eric-schmidt-slams-nsa-for-tapping-datacenters/ Google

Re: UK Guardian newspaper publishes USA NSA papers

2013-11-04 Thread Jean-David Beyer
On 11/04/2013 05:40 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: I tried to check that out, and I have never needed more than about three hops. Sure, but then again you're trying to hit people with *extremely* large networks, and whose first-order networks are themselves *extremely* well-connected. Even