Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/25/2015 12:50 PM, Ingo Klöcker wrote: > On Thursday 24 December 2015 17:02:54 Matthias Apitz wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I do not fully understand why some 4 random words like >> >> Correct, horse! Battery staple! >> >> is a better passphrase

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

Quoting Peter Lebbing (2015-12-26 09:53:38) > On 26/12/15 01:39, ma...@wk3.org wrote: > > do you have an estimate on the number of unique sentences published on > > the Internet? > > What is your purpose by the way? Look for an estimated amount of entropy > contained in picking one of those

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

On 26/12/15 01:39, ma...@wk3.org wrote: > do you have an estimate on the number of unique sentences published on > the Internet? Hm how many of those would have been generated by a Markov chain generator that a spammer used to generate some filler text in a spam mail? I bet you've seen

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

On 24 December 2015 at 17:02, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I do not fully understand why some 4 random words like > > Correct, horse! Battery staple! > > is a better passphrase like, for example > > Und allein dieser Mangel und nichts anderes führte zum

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

On 25/12/15 06:19, Ineiev wrote: > I assume the amount of entropy is what really matters. for instance, > if on every next step you are free to choose any of 4 random words > taken from 6-word dictionary, you may put it in a grammatically > correct form[*], then you must get a certain entropy

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

It's about the randomness/unpredictability/entropy of the passphrase. There are less grammatically correct sentences with 4 words than there are combinations of 4 words in total. So, yes, you can take a sentence that makes sense, but then the whole passphrase has to be longer. There is an

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

On 24-12-2015 17:02, Matthias Apitz wrote: > I do not fully understand why some 4 random words like > > Correct, horse! Battery staple! > > is a better passphrase like, for example > > Und allein dieser Mangel und nichts anderes führte zum Tod. I do know that using accented

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

I'm a big fan of that list, and for some time I've been meaning to generate a tweaked version that uses binary numbering, having recently needed to generate a passphrase without a dice to hand. Using a coin and rejection sampling isn't too hard, but it's rather annoying to have to throw away 20%

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

On Thursday 24 December 2015 17:02:54 Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > I do not fully understand why some 4 random words like > > Correct, horse! Battery staple! > > is a better passphrase like, for example > > Und allein dieser Mangel und nichts anderes führte zum Tod. > > i.e.

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 10:57:06AM +0100, Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 25/12/15 06:19, Ineiev wrote: > Let's assume one in four words in the dictionary fits the grammar. I > hope this concurs broadly with what you assumed. Rather than pick four > random words of the full list, and then pick one of

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

El día Friday, December 25, 2015 a las 06:50:07PM +0100, Ingo Klöcker escribió: > > Und allein dieser Mangel und nichts anderes führte zum Tod. > > > > i.e. some phrasing which could be memorized better? > > The second sentence is found by search engines (2 hits in DuckDuckGo). Don't > use

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

If you want a simple random list, look at diceware: http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.html Both the page and the diceware lists are available in many languages, including German vedaal ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Friday, December 25, 2015 a las 06:50:07PM +0100, Ingo Klöcker > escribió: > > > > Und allein dieser Mangel und nichts anderes führte zum Tod. > > > > > > i.e. some phrasing which could be memorized better? > > > > The second sentence is found by search

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

Hi, do you have an estimate on the number of unique sentences published on the Internet? Sincerely, Malte ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

Hello, On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 05:50:47PM +0100, Peter Lebbing wrote: > > > Und allein dieser Mangel und nichts anderes führte zum Tod. > > This is grammatical. There is a subject (or two), a verb, an.. well > whatever those things are like "zum Tod", I don't often discuss grammar > in any

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

Hello, > Correct, horse! Battery staple! My understanding is that these words in such a passphrase are chosen by a random number generator in a computer. I use such a passphrase; I've let my computer pick words out of a word list based on reading /dev/random; or actually, I'm fairly sure I

Re: about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

My boss told me to pick an 8 word sentence and use the initials. I chose the my favorite line from my fan fiction: "Put All Star Ships Where Only Romulans Dwell" and he fired me. On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I do not fully

about cartoon in FAQ 10.1. 'Correct, horse! Battery staple!'

Hello, I do not fully understand why some 4 random words like Correct, horse! Battery staple! is a better passphrase like, for example Und allein dieser Mangel und nichts anderes führte zum Tod. i.e. some phrasing which could be memorized better? matthias --