Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-19 Thread Binarus
On 19.09.2019 12:31, Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users wrote: > Binarus wrote: > >> IMHO, this system lacks a mandatory unique token in the key ID. The >> natural choice for such a token would be the email address, because in >> the first place it is the only thing you know for sure when writing a >> p

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-19 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
Binarus wrote: > IMHO, this system lacks a mandatory unique token in the key ID. The > natural choice for such a token would be the email address, because in > the first place it is the only thing you know for sure when writing a > private message to somebody else who you haven't become acquainted

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-19 Thread Binarus
On 18.09.2019 17:30, Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users wrote: > Binarus wrote: > >> You have stated that my real name must be in the key ID if I would like >> to have the key certified by Governikus. Does the key ID need to have >> other personal data in it? After all, as an example, there for sure

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-18 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
Binarus wrote: > You have stated that my real name must be in the key ID if I would like > to have the key certified by Governikus. Does the key ID need to have > other personal data in it? After all, as an example, there for sure are > at least 1000 people in Germany whose name is "Peter Meier" (

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-18 Thread Binarus
On 17.09.2019 21:58, Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users wrote: > Binarus wrote: > >> Actually, I currently don't know anybody who I could ask to sign my >> keys, and furthermore, the problem is bigger the other way around. Can I >> trust the key which I found on the key server for the intended >> reci

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
Binarus wrote: > Actually, I currently don't know anybody who I could ask to sign my > keys, and furthermore, the problem is bigger the other way around. Can I > trust the key which I found on the key server for the intended > recipient's email address? Can I at least be sure that the key server >

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Binarus
On 17.09.2019 17:21, Werner Koch wrote: > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:08, gnupg-users@gnupg.org said: > >> See also dkg's thoughts on the matter on the openpgp-wg mailing list, to >> align >> the specification with reality: > > OpenPGP has never defined what goes into the User ID except for the >

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 17:35, look@my.amazin.horse said: > convention or otherwise. The spec is factually wrong and misleading for > implementors in this aspect, and should be updated to reflect reality. The specs are not wrong if you would read them: | the name and email address of the key holder

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Vincent Breitmoser via Gnupg-users
> Thus the current wording is sufficient and has served us well over the last 25 > years If your statement here includes the "by convention contains an rfc2822 name-addr" part of the wording, please bring this opinion up on the openpgp-wg thread. The argument is being made (and I agree) that it

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:08, gnupg-users@gnupg.org said: > See also dkg's thoughts on the matter on the openpgp-wg mailing list, to align > the specification with reality: OpenPGP has never defined what goes into the User ID except for the encoding which should be UTF-8. Anything else does not bel

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 14:57, li...@binarus.de said: > to use only key IDs consisting solely of the actual mail address > hereafter (with or without the angle brackets - I can live with both That is actually what I suggest for quite some time. The extra stuff is not required and may lead only to co

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Binarus
On 17.09.2019 15:08, Vincent Breitmoser wrote: > >> but as far as I have understood my communication with Vincent, it's such IDs >> which are a problem for keys.openpgp.org. > > Right, that's because we currently use an actual rfc2822 parser on > keys.openpgp.org. This works fine for *most* us

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Vincent Breitmoser via Gnupg-users
> but as far as I have understood my communication with Vincent, it's such IDs > which are a problem for keys.openpgp.org. Right, that's because we currently use an actual rfc2822 parser on keys.openpgp.org. This works fine for *most* users, but in the end causes more trouble than it's worth, so

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Binarus
At first, thank you very much for your explanations! On 17.09.2019 12:17, Werner Koch wrote: > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 09:12, li...@binarus.de said: > >> I am asking myself why Enigmail doesn't. I am not sure (and can't test >> at the moment) how GnuPG would behave if given a problematic name when >>

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 09:12, li...@binarus.de said: > I am asking myself why Enigmail doesn't. I am not sure (and can't test > at the moment) how GnuPG would behave if given a problematic name when > generating a key; I hope it would give a warning or would add the gpg generates such a key just fin

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Binarus
On 16.09.2019 12:58, Claus Assmann wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, Binarus wrote: > >> Surname, Forename | Company > >> Commas are not allowed as part of email addresses. While I knew that, I > > unless quoted, e.g., > "Surname, Forename | Company" Thanks, Claus, for the clarification / correc

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-16 Thread Claus Assmann
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, Binarus wrote: > Surname, Forename | Company > Commas are not allowed as part of email addresses. While I knew that, I unless quoted, e.g., "Surname, Forename | Company" ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http:

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-16 Thread Binarus
On 14.09.2019 13:15, Binarus wrote: > I have used the Thunderbird / Enigmail / Gpg4Win troika for quite a > while without any issue. Yesterday, I had to reinstall, and while doing > so, upgraded to the newest versions of that packages, and while I was at > it, revoked my old (1024-bit) keys and gen

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-14 Thread Binarus
Dear Vincent, On 14.09.2019 14:58, Vincent Breitmoser wrote: >> I got confirmation emails for three of that four keys, but it seems that >> the key server isn't in the mood to send a confirmation email for the >> fourth. I have uploaded that one multiple times since then (again via >> Enigmail's

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-14 Thread Vincent Breitmoser via Gnupg-users
Hi Binarus, > I got confirmation emails for three of that four keys, but it seems that > the key server isn't in the mood to send a confirmation email for the > fourth. I have uploaded that one multiple times since then (again via > Enigmail's key management), each time getting a success message

keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-14 Thread Binarus
Dear all, at first, thank you very much for providing privacy and safety for such a long time free of charge to us! Second, the following question could be slightly off-topic because it is partly about the behavior of a key server which clearly is not part of the GPG software. However, I think I