[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Virginia Barbour, Executive Officer, AOASG
It's a fair point that academics do need to think more carefully about what boards and initiatives they join and the consequences of giving credibility to them - but to me again this (at least for more junior academics) comes down to the need to have good mentorship and advice in helping people

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
What about the idea : research published only non profit OA journals should be taken into account. Wouldn't this push the predatory OA journals by competition out of business ? I think that this again supports the conclusion that the idea of journals altogether should be discarded, as

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Richard Poynder
I don’t know whether predatory publishing is getting more attention than it deserves. What I do know is that OA advocates have been saying as much for as long as the phenomenon has existed. In that time the number of papers published in predatory journals has grown constantly. If my maths is

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Dear all, Excuse my question if it is the one of a not yet well informed person (me). I wonder if there is any concerned and organized activity to have the financing institutions (NIH, NSF, CNRS, and the like in every contry + the large private institutions, the Gates Foundation ...) be

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Dear Graham, You are right. We simply cannot accept any journal where anyone has to pay anything. There is no place for money exchange in knowledge published in scholarly journals. Any monetary exchange could lead, sooner or later, to malversations and corruptions or limit to access to the

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Graham Triggs
On 10/09/2015 11:37:02, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: What about the idea : research published only non profit OA journals should be taken into account. Wouldn't this push the predatory OA journals by competition out of business ? Well, first, try and define what your criteria for

[GOAL] Predatory publishing - 'non profit'

2015-09-10 Thread Gavin Moodie
At least in Anglo-USA law a for profit organisation is one which is authorised to distribute surpluses to its owners, whereas a 'non profit' organisation is not so authorised and must allocate any surplus to the purposes for which it was established. Thus a '(non) profit' organisation is not