[GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-17 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Kiley, Robert wrote: > I keep hearing this claim that “60% of journals allow immediate, > unembargoed, self-archiving” and wonder how accurate this. > > Although I’m aware of the original source of this > dat

[GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-16 Thread Arthur Sale
t: Tuesday, 17 September 2013 2:15 AM To: David Solomon Cc: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci); Friend, Fred; LibLicense-L Discussion Forum; SPARC Open Access Forum Subject: [GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection Would you really consider dropping a journal with say 7

[GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-16 Thread Dana Roth
Access List (Successor of AmSci); Friend, Fred; LibLicense-L Discussion Forum; SPARC Open Access Forum Subject: [GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection Would you really consider dropping a journal with say 70% percent of the content available after a year? I'm not a librar

[GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-16 Thread Rick Anderson
Would you really consider dropping a journal with say 70% percent of the content available after a year? I'm not a librarian but I just wonder how much of a difference allowing immediate archiving of the accepted version really makes in subscription decisions. It depends. Obviously, a subscrip

[GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-16 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Rick Anderson wrote: > if I know that a publisher allows green deposit of all articles without > embargo, then the likelihood that we'll maintain a paid subscription drops > dramatically > Rick Anderson has made a public announcement that he may think serves the

[GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-16 Thread David Solomon
Rick, in terms of subscription cancellations is that really true with big deals? Doesn't Elsevier allow immediate deposit with most of their journals except if your institution has a mandate. Also I believe Björk and his colleagues found faculty often take awhile getting around to archiving their

[GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-16 Thread Rick Anderson
I don't know if there is a way of getting a list, but I think you are conflating two things. I assume you are saying you would cancel if all of the content of the journal was available without embargo. Sherpa/Romeo doesn't tell you that - it just tells you whether or not the publisher allows

[GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-16 Thread Graham Steel
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[GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-16 Thread David Prosser
Rick I don't know if there is a way of getting a list, but I think you are conflating two things. I assume you are saying you would cancel if all of the content of the journal was available without embargo. Sherpa/Romeo doesn't tell you that - it just tells you whether or not the publisher al

[GOAL] Re: [sparc-oaforum] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-16 Thread Rick Anderson
Is there an easy way (easier than searching title-by-title through SHERPA/RoMEO) to get a complete list of journals offering Green access with no embargo? I can't speak for the marketplace as a whole, but my library will cancel most if not all of our subscriptions to any such journals — my inst