[GOAL] Re: Fool's Gold vs. Fair Gold

2013-10-09 Thread Graham Triggs
On 7 October 2013 21:31, Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com wrote: *SH:* But with post-Green Fair Gold, the production and distribution and their costs are gone -- offloaded onto the global network of Green OA IRs. And the peer review costs are paid for as a service (most sensibly, a

[GOAL] Re: Fool's Gold vs. Fair Gold

2013-10-09 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Graham Triggs grahamtri...@gmail.comwrote: *GT:* [Major] Publishers are not in the habit of incurring costs unnecessarily. If there was no desire for type-setting, print edition, online edition, PDFs - then they would cut the costs of providing them, and make

[GOAL] Re: Fool's Gold vs. Fair Gold

2013-10-08 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Graham Triggs grahamtri...@gmail.comwrote: *SH:* But with post-Green Fair Gold, the production and distribution and their costs are gone -- offloaded onto the global network of Green OA IRs. And the peer review costs are paid for as a service (most sensibly,

[GOAL] Re: Fool's Gold vs. Fair Gold

2013-10-08 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Jan Velterop velte...@gmail.com wrote: Instead of taking responsibility for the technical aspects of publishing, the academic community should take responsibility for the whole process of peer review – an academic competency, after all – including its

[GOAL] Re: Fool's Gold vs. Fair Gold

2013-10-06 Thread Graham Triggs
On 5 October 2013 23:31, Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Graham Triggs grahamtri...@gmail.comwrote: In an author-pays model, the author is paying in part for the peer-review, editing, production, distribution - which are all replicable and