[GOAL] Re: Further Fallout From Finch Folly

2012-12-19 Thread Jan Velterop
...they [start-up subscription journals, or as Stevan calls them bottom-rung journals] were not subscribed to by institutions if there was no empty subject niche they were filling, nor before they had established their track-records for quality. Where has Stevan been the last 4 decades? The

[GOAL] Re: Further Fallout From Finch Folly

2012-12-19 Thread Stevan Harnad
a. I agree with Jan Velterop that the Fools-Gold Junk-Journal start-ups are not a major problem and will be weeded out with time. b. I even agree that authors (and referees) that fall for journal scam get what they deserve, and perhaps learn a useful lesson from it. c. I also agree that the

[GOAL] Re: Further Fallout From Finch Folly

2012-12-19 Thread Dana Roth
Velterop Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:21 AM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Cc: LibLicense-L Discussion Forum Subject: [GOAL] Re: Further Fallout From Finch Folly ...they [start-up subscription journals, or as Stevan calls them bottom-rung journals] were not subscribed

[GOAL] Re: Further Fallout From Finch Folly

2012-12-19 Thread Andrew A. Adams
Are many of the new commercial journals actually �subscribed to� or are they added to existing packages in hopes they will capture sufficient market share to continue? � my assumption is that the concept of loss leaders is NOT operable for society published journals. While I don't think

[GOAL] Re: Further Fallout From Finch Folly

2012-12-18 Thread Stevan Harnad
On 2012-12-18, at 8:26 PM, Roddy Macleod macleod.ro...@gmail.com wrote: *Editors with publishing and library experience, available to do the background work, and backed up with scholarly reviewers - sounds OK to me. * Please support us in our efforts. We need submissions and we need