[GOAL] Re: Nice blog post on OA

2012-02-12 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Hans Falk Hoffmann Hans.Falk.Hoffmann at cern.ch wrote: What about privately funded research results? They are not so different. If patented they move into the public domain only after about 20 years of privileged use. Society could debate different (shorter)

[GOAL] Re: Nice blog post on OA

2012-02-12 Thread Hans Falk Hoffmann
  . Hans F. Hoffmann From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of R. Stephen Berry Sent: 11 February 2012 12:31 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci); Paul Uhlir Subject: [GOAL] Re: Nice blog post on OA   Dear Paul,             Â

[GOAL] Re: Nice blog post on OA

2012-02-12 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Hans Falk Hoffmann hans.falk.hoffm...@cern.ch wrote: What about privately funded research results? They are not so different. If patented they move into the public domain only after about 20 years of privileged use. Society could debate

[GOAL] Re: Nice blog post on OA

2012-02-11 Thread R. Stephen Berry
Dear Paul, Scientific information is a very special kind of public good. In general, the value of public goods does not decrease as the goods are used. With scientific information, the value increases with use, so there is a very strong positive feedback that makes open distribution

[GOAL] Re: Nice blog post on OA

2012-02-11 Thread Stevan Harnad
A HAPPIER ENDING: UNBUNDLING QUALITY CONTROL Mike Taylor's allegory is brilliant. But its pessimistic ending is not inevitable. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2012/feb/10/parable-farmers-teleporting-duplicator?CMP=twt_gu The distributors (journals) performed two functions in the

[GOAL] Re: Nice blog post on OA

2012-02-11 Thread R . Stephen Berry
Dear Paul, Scientific information is a very special kind of public good.  In general, the value of public goods does not decrease as the goods are used.  With scientific information, the value increases with use, so there is a very strong positive feedback that makes open distribution of

[GOAL] Re: Nice blog post on OA

2012-02-11 Thread Stevan Harnad
A HAPPIER ENDING: UNBUNDLING QUALITY CONTROL Mike Taylor's allegory is brilliant. But its pessimistic ending is not inevitable. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2012/feb/10/parable-farmers-teleporting-duplicator?CMP=twt_gu The distributors (journals) performed two functions in the

[GOAL] Re: Nice blog post on OA

2012-02-11 Thread David Prosser
Hi Stevan While it is nice to be agreed with, perhaps you are thinking of somebody else in your third paragraph? I don't recall being part of the debate recently. Best wishes David On 11 Feb 2012, at 14:31, Stevan Harnad wrote: A HAPPIER ENDING: UNBUNDLING QUALITY CONTROL Mike

[GOAL] Re: Nice blog post on OA

2012-02-11 Thread Stevan Harnad
Apologies, David (and Steven): I meant Steven Pinfield, not David. -- SH On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 10:34 AM, David Prosser david.pros...@rluk.ac.uk wrote: Hi Stevan While it is nice to be agreed with, perhaps you are thinking of somebody else in your third paragraph?  I don't recall being

[GOAL] Re: Nice blog post on OA

2012-02-10 Thread Uhlir, Paul
Not bad, except in economic terms, food is a private good (it is rivalrous and can be excluded, and can only be consumed only once), whereas publicly-funded research results (articles, data) on digital networks are public goods (they are non-rival and difficult or inefficient to exclude, since