[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Virginia Barbour, Executive Officer, AOASG
gt; > > > > > *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] *On > Behalf Of *Virginia Barbour, Executive Officer, AOASG > *Sent:* 10 September 2015 09:28 > *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal@eprints.org> > *Subject:* [GOAL] Re:

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
What about the idea : research published only non profit OA journals should be taken into account. Wouldn't this push the predatory OA journals by competition out of business ? I think that this again supports the conclusion that the idea of journals altogether should be discarded, as

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Richard Poynder
[mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Virginia Barbour, Executive Officer, AOASG Sent: 10 September 2015 09:28 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal@eprints.org> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal Hallo all - I'm interested in thi

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Dear all, Excuse my question if it is the one of a not yet well informed person (me). I wonder if there is any concerned and organized activity to have the financing institutions (NIH, NSF, CNRS, and the like in every contry + the large private institutions, the Gates Foundation ...) be

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Dear Graham, You are right. We simply cannot accept any journal where anyone has to pay anything. There is no place for money exchange in knowledge published in scholarly journals. Any monetary exchange could lead, sooner or later, to malversations and corruptions or limit to access to the

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-10 Thread Graham Triggs
On 10/09/2015 11:37:02, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: What about the idea : research published only non profit OA journals should be taken into account. Wouldn't this push the predatory OA journals by competition out of business ? Well, first, try and define what your criteria for

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-09 Thread David Prosser
To get an idea of the size of the problem of ‘predatory' publishers, does anybody know: a) the proportion of papers published each year in ‘predatory’ publishers compared to the total number of papers published worldwide; or even b) the proportion of papers published each year in ‘predatory’

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-09 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:24 AM, David Prosser wrote: > To get an idea of the size of the problem of ‘predatory' publishers, does > anybody know: > > a) the proportion of papers published each year in ‘predatory’ publishers > compared to the total number of papers

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-09 Thread David Prosser
ailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org> [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of David Prosser Sent: 09 September 2015 11:25 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal@eprints.org<mailto:goal@eprints.org>> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal To get an i

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-09 Thread David Prosser
Nobody said he was inventing the problem. I just want to know the size of it. So what’s your definition of ‘tiny’ Stevan? I would say if articles in ‘predatory’ journals make up less than 5% of total number of paper published, or of papers published in Gold OA, or even of papers published in

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-09 Thread Richard Poynder
September 2015 11:25 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal@eprints.org> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal To get an idea of the size of the problem of 'predatory' publishers, does anybody know: a) the proportion of papers published each ye

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-09 Thread Lars Bjørnshauge
goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org > <goal-boun...@eprints.org>] *On Behalf Of *David Prosser > *Sent:* 09 September 2015 11:25 > *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal@eprints.org> > *Subject:* [GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-09 Thread Richard Poynder
Of course being trapped by a predatory publisher is a terrible thing for an individual. Just as sending your bank details to a Nigerian oil scammer and ending up being ripped off is a terrible thing. And some of these 'publishers' are behaving reprehensibly. But I think we have the right

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-09 Thread Stevan Harnad
go far enough. >> >> >> >> For more on this see: http://goo.gl/gybP9G >> >> >> >> If the above link does not take you directly to the comments I am >> referring to, they are the last 5 comments below the interview. >> >

[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-09 Thread Reckling, Falk
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[GOAL] Re: Predatory Publishing: A Modest Proposal

2015-09-09 Thread Heather Morrison
Thank you for taking this on, Richard. One thought is whether it would be in the best interests of OA to welcome and encourage internal critique. Perhaps if we were quicker to denounce predatory practices, we would have more credibility when we support true friends of OA (to me, this of