[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-25 Thread Andrew A. Adams
Arthur Sale wrote: Hey, let's be realistic. For most purposes text plus pictures is adequate. Add videos if you must. Your average repository can cope with all that, integrated into a pdf. We've probably got 95% coverage. One cannot easily search pictures or video, but must rely on metadata

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-25 Thread Sally Morris
...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Andrew A. Adams Sent: 25 February 2013 08:18 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions Arthur Sale wrote: Hey, let's be realistic. For most purposes text plus pictures is adequate. Add

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-25 Thread Stevan Harnad
Andrew Adams is so right, on every single points he made. In a few moments (noon UK time) I will post an embargoed proposal from HEFCE REF that proposes to require exactly what Andrew Adams is urging, for very much the same reasons. SH On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Andrew A. Adams

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-25 Thread Danny Kingsley
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013 10:24 PM To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)' Subject: [GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions I seem to recall that, in various surveys, one of the features found most useful by readers was linking to other

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-24 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Andrew A. Adams a...@meiji.ac.jp wrote: The first is that the primary means of achieving Open Access should be by deposit in either an institutional repository (for those researchers with an institutiona such as a research lab or a university) or in a single

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-24 Thread Andrew A. Adams
Peter, Thank you for the correction. I mis-remembered the mandate from these (I think a bit confusingly named) systems. Too late to send a correction to an organisation like the White House. Hopefully if anyone who understand it well enough for it to be useful actually reads it, they will

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-24 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Andrew A. Adams a...@meiji.ac.jp wrote: Peter, Thank you for the correction. I mis-remembered the mandate from these (I think a bit confusingly named) systems. It's even more confusing with Medline, PubMed and PubMedCentral all from NIH. On your point

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-24 Thread Kiley, Robert
Message- From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Andrew A. Adams Sent: 24 February 2013 12:18 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci); Murray-Rust, Peter Subject: [GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions Peter

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-24 Thread Leslie Carr
A. Adams Sent: 24 February 2013 12:18 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci); Murray-Rust, Peter Subject: [GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions Peter, Thank you for the correction. I mis-remembered the mandate from these (I think a bit

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-24 Thread Andrew A. Adams
On your point on central deposit, I beg to differ, as you know. Deposit locally then harvest centrally is far more sensible than trying to mandate different deposit loci for the various authors in an institution. Peter Murray-Rust replied: This is not axiomatic. The protein community

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-24 Thread Andrew A. Adams
Peter, You're talking about a very narrow subset of science here. I'm talking about all of academic scholarship that is published in journals. Yes, the stuff you're talking about is a small minority of academic research. A quick search seems to show that much of Crystallography is open

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-24 Thread Arthur Sale
for specialized repositories. Arthur Sale -Original Message- From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Andrew A. Adams Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013 11:24 AM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access

[GOAL] Re: US Presidential Open Access Directive: 3 Cheers and 8 Suggestions

2013-02-23 Thread Andrew A. Adams
Here is a message I sent to the US White House about the OATP Presidential mandate. First I would like to express my support and thanks for the announcement of the policy on open access to scientific literature announced by Dr John Holdren. This is an important expansion of themove towards