tserver.sigmaxi.org]On Behalf
> Of Fytton
> Rowland
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:06
> To: american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org
> Subject: Re: Book on future of STM publishers
>
>
> This is an interesting point. In some disciplines, there is a
>
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Fytton Rowland wrote:
> It has always been quite easy (if you have the money) to get a book printed.
> Publishers are not printers. The business of getting a book printed is only
> one (and not the most important) of a publishing company's functions.
By the same to
This may be a poor deal, but we should not blame the author in
particular , as it is
apparently standard practice in some European countries--
they seem to have a more archaic procedure than in North America.
Fyttton, as you, Steven, and others have pointed out, much better ways
are available.
I
I quite agree with Bernard Lang. There are better ways.
And, as a scholar, you might consider the loss in visibility (and hence
potantial authority) you will suffer for a mere 400 dollars.
Have you looked at the NDLTD site (http://www.ndltd.org)? I assume Stevan
pointed it out in his answer. He
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Fytton Rowland wrote:
> It has always been quite easy (if you have the money) to get a book printed.
> Publishers are not printers. The business of getting a book printed is only
> one (and not the most important) of a publishing company's functions. Editing
> to improve the
publishers are reluctant to publish the specialist texts on paper.
apologies for intrusion
muir gray
- Original Message -
From: "Stevan Harnad"
To:
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Book on future of STM publishers
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, muir gray wrote:
>
Fytton Rowland writes
> Thomas, are you suggesting that PhD students should not have to pay the
> printing and binding costs of their theses?
Yes.
> That the University should print and bind the thesis for the student
> free of charge?
Theses have been bound and printed to make them acces
arehouses. the printing revolution isas important as the
> pagemaking revolution
>
> muir gray
> www.resourcefulpatient.org
> - Original Message -
> From: "Oldroyd, Bill"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Book on future of STM publis
One question and one comment.
Thomas, are you suggesting that PhD students should not have to pay the
printing and binding costs of their theses? That the University should print
and bind the thesis for the student free of charge? Or, more sensibly, that
the University should stop requiring prin
On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, muir gray wrote:
> I think the debate is too focussed on the future of the journal and am
> pleased to see that it now addresses the monograph. a colleague and I have
> just made a monograph by working directly with a printer and making
> simulataneous paper and electronic for
warehouses. the printing revolution isas important as the
pagemaking revolution
muir gray
www.resourcefulpatient.org
- Original Message -
From: "Oldroyd, Bill"
To:
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Book on future of STM publishers
> Just for the
e: Book on future of STM publishers
> As many of you wonder about the "outdated" media in which the dissertation
> is published, I will give you the obvious explanation: The University of
> Munich requires that all Ph.D manuscripts have to be handed in in print
form, no
> onli
Fytton Rowland writes
> But here the students usually just groan and bear it!
Getting the money for the printing cost back sounds like a flimsy
excuse to me.
If someone does a doctorate to become a member of the academic profession,
then toll-gating the PhD does not seem to me to be a
Even in Information Systems many details of how a field trial or a
controlled experiment was conducted never appear in the professional
journal, also the instruments used in the study.
The New Jersey Institute of Technology started putting all Ph.D. thesis
on the Web two years ago.
We currently h
; It would seem, therefore, that research dissertations may be a potentially
> valuable resource after all - one that for too long has been accessible
> only from library archives.
>
> All the best,
> Tim Brody
> (PhD Research Student)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "
This is quite interesting -- how many copies do you have to get printed,
Michael? And is there a requirement for proper print, as opposed to word-
processing/photocopying?
In UK universities the student typically has to provide three or four copies of
their thesis, which nowadays they usually wor
universities may be silly.
but you have to be joking, there are thousand of more effective ways
to make $400 than fighting to be published.
Bernard
On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 10:42:11AM +0200, M. Meier wrote:
> As many of you wonder about the "outdated" media in which the dissertation
> is publish
Just for the record, Bill
-Original Message-
From: Tim Brody [mailto:tdb...@ecs.soton.ac.uk]
Sent: 19 July 2002 13:02
To: american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org
Subject: Re: Book on future of STM publishers
>It would seem, therefore, that research dissertations
m: "Albert Henderson"
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Book on future of STM publishers
> The fundamental flaw in Stevan's position is
> that it discounts the receipt of value --
> recognition and targeted dissemination --
As many of you wonder about the "outdated" media in which the dissertation
is published, I will give you the obvious explanation: The University of
Munich requires that all Ph.D manuscripts have to be handed in in print form, no
online or CD-ROM version allowed. To recover the printing costs (appr.
on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 Fytton Rowland wrote:
> This is an interesting point. In some disciplines, there is a tradition of
> writing journal articles based on one's PhD research -- some of them perhaps
> published before the thesis is written -- while in other fields the practice
> is
> to turn on
> Fytton Rowland, Dept Information Science, Loughborough Univ, UK wrote:
> ...In some disciplines, there is a tradition
> of writing journal articles based on one's PhD research -- some of them
> perhaps published before the thesis is written -- while in other fields
> the practice is to turn one'
This is an interesting point. In some disciplines, there is a tradition of
writing journal articles based on one's PhD research -- some of them perhaps
published before the thesis is written -- while in other fields the practice is
to turn one's thesis into a book. However, the thesis itself, in
M. Meier writes
> An exposé is availabel under http://www.ep.uni-muenchen.de/themen.htm. The
> book as a whole will unfortunately not be available online for free.
I understand that the book is Michael's PhD thesis. I think that
it would be interesting to understand the reasons why it is no
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- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Krichel"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: Book on fut
Michael Meier writes
> I would like to inform you about a new book [in German] published in
> mid-june about the future of the publishing trade facing mounting
> opposition by libraries and other pressure groups. The title of
> the book is "Returning Science to the Scientists. Der Umbruch im
>
I would like to inform you about a new book [in German] published in
mid-june about the future of the publishing trade facing mounting
opposition by libraries and other pressure groups. The title of
the book is "Returning Science to the Scientists. Der Umbruch im
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