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open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org] On Behalf Of Dana Roth
Sent: 31 October 2011 22:24
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Subject: Re: Fool's Gold Journal Spam
Reme brings up an excellent, if unstated, point ... commercially
From: American Scientist Open Access Forum
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Sent: 01 November 2011 18:45
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Subject: Re: Fool's Gold Journal Spam
Surely authors have exactly the same freedom under the subscription model?
Sally
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: Fool's Gold Journal Spam
Reme brings up an excellent, if unstated, point ... commercially
published OA journals like commercially published subscription
journals are the problem ... not the society/non-commercial OA and
subscription journals.
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Michael Eisen mbei...@gmail.com wrote:
M.E.:
But if you're going to use the standard of email inboxes being filled
with
nonstop entreaties to pursue a path to open access, surely it is green
OA
that would suffer the most :-).
S.H.:
Mike, do you
El 30/10/2011 17:03, Stevan Harnad escribió:
Not only is it regrettable that OA is so unthinkingly identified in
most people's minds exclusively with gold OA publishing, but this
growing spate of relentless fool's-gold junk-OA spamming is now
coalescing with that misconception -- and at the
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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: Fool's Gold Journal Spam
Richard,
You are right about the abuse and the taint, and about the way even
wrong-headed ideas can
1:28 AM
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Subject: Re: Fool's Gold Journal Spam
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El 30/10/2011 17:03, Stevan Harnad escribió:
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Not only is it regrettable that OA is so unthinkingly identified in
most people's minds exclusively with gold OA publishing
Dear colleagues,
They just keep coming, almost daily, pre-emptively spamming all the
people we had been hoping to win over to Open Access.
Not only is it regrettable that OA is so unthinkingly identified in
most people's minds exclusively with gold OA publishing, but this
growing spate of
Stevan-
Saying that people should shun gold OA because there are spammers pushing
journals is like saying people should never take prescription drugs because
there are spammers trying to sell cheap prescription drugs, or that nobody
should ever do business with Nigeria.
But if you're going to use
This is a nettle that OA organisations like SPARC, OASPA and COPE should be
grasping.
There are things they could be doing, and things they could be saying. And for
so long as
the OA movement continues to ignore the problem, Open Access is in danger of
being discredited.
People are beginning to
Richard,
You are right about the abuse and the taint, and about the way even
wrong-headed ideas can  become entrenched and grow, just because of
their number of believers, not their validity.
And, yes, some thought OA would solve both the accessibility and the
affordability problem (esp.
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Michael Eisen mbei...@gmail.com wrote:
Stevan-
Saying that people should shun gold OA because there are spammers pushing
journals is like saying people should never take prescription drugs because
there are spammers trying to sell cheap prescription drugs, or
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