[GOAL] Support the OAButton Thunderclap

2013-11-18 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
The OpenAccess Button Thunderclap ( https://www.thunderclap.it/en/projects/5675-open-access-button-launch ) will happen in about 5 hours from now. This comes from two students Joe and David who are angry that paywalls still exist. The Thunderclap will push 800,000+ tweets onto the web expressing

[GOAL] Re: [Open-access] Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Thomas Krichel
brent...@ulg.ac.be writes The only way researchers can be convinced is through mandatory pressure from the funders and/or the Academic authorities. And the only way mandates can be imposed is through the research assessment procedures. Everything else lingers or fails. I beg to differ.

[GOAL] Re: [Open-access] Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Heather Morrison
Rentier makes some good points here. May I add that if deposit in the IR becomes THE way to report to the tenure and promotion committee and funding agencies, this could actually save researchers a lot of time? Currently we do need to report our publications, often to multiple venues with

[GOAL] Re: [Open-access] Re: Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Bjoern Brembs
On Monday, November 18, 2013, 6:52:04 AM, you wrote: Libraries are definitely places where awareness occurs. They are the sentinels. However, they don't have enough power (generally) to impose Open Access as a permanent reflex with researchers. You are perfectly correct: this needs to

[GOAL] Re: [Open-access] Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Eric F. Van de Velde
Stevan, Bernard: My main concern is not with mandates, but with the repositories themselves. If memory serves me right, there was at least one unsuccessful attempt to defund the NIH-run Pubmed repository. ArXiv also had an existential crisis when run from a government lab. The weakness of

[GOAL] Re: [Open-access] Re: Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Bjoern Brembs
Dear Eric, I am so completely and utterly on your page. This is precisely the way we need to go and every library meeting I speak at confirms this view: everyone I meet there gives me the feedback that they're ready to go for it. Thanks for making this important point! Bjoern On Monday,

[GOAL] Re: [Open-access] Re: Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-18 Thread brentier
Dear Bjoern, Eric and Heather, I fully agree that it is good practice to duplicate deposits. Actually, there is nothing wrong with that. And on these lines, I would recommend public repositories. I feel much less at ease with private ones. We have had terrible experiences with commercial

[GOAL] Re: [Open-access] Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-18 Thread brentier
Indeed Heather, in Belgium, we are now achieving total compatibility between universities IRs as well as with the FRS-FNRS (the major Research Funder). Authors have to file in their papers only once. However, if absolutely needed, various formattings can be provided by the software. I should

[GOAL] Re: [Open-access] Re: Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Bjoern Brembs b.bre...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Eric, I am so completely and utterly on your page. This is precisely the way we need to go and every library meeting I speak at confirms this view: everyone I meet there gives me the feedback that they're ready to

[GOAL] Finch Report Review

2013-11-18 Thread Friend, Fred
As a taxpayer I read the 74-page Review of progress in implementing the recommendations of the Finch Report with interest, looking for evidence that those who recommend policy to HM Government are making their recommendations in a logical fashion and on the basis of available evidence. What I

[GOAL] Ideology, Archives, and Management

2013-11-18 Thread Eric F. Van de Velde
As Stevan mentioned, the previous thread [GOAL] Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc. is getting a bit unwieldy. So, I am starting this new one to reply to Stevan. I am cross-posting, because the original thread was. Scholarly communication is a

[GOAL] Re: Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Hélène . Bosc
I fully agree that library policies need to evolve. This was already my idea in 2004, when I presented my librarian's view on the necessary forthcoming changes in libraries, at the ESOF symposium, in Stockholm. The library's new role, new tools (for the present) for preservation, and the need

[GOAL] Fwd: [sparc-oaforum] Digest for sparc-oafo...@arl.org - 2 Messages in 2 Topics

2013-11-18 Thread Stevan Harnad
Forwarding from Paul Royster. I of course agree with Paul's points of criticism, but I am not quite sure why he is directing it SPARC rather than Finch! Perhaps Heather Joseph or Alma Swan can reply on behalf of SPARC. I don't think SPARC rejects the post-BOAI distinction between Gratis OA

[GOAL] Articles, Books, OA OA Mandates

2013-11-18 Thread Stevan Harnad
On 2013-11-18, at 7:06 PM, LIBLICENSE liblice...@gmail.com wrote: From: Colin Steele colin.ste...@anu.edu.au Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:25:23 + Stevan perhaps doesn't realise that the horse has bolted over the alleged hurdles in some parts of the world. Open access monographs are