[GOAL] Re: Can time-stamped PDF's qualify as OA?

2016-02-10 Thread Walker,Thomas J
Peter Murray-Rust’s posting about $400 study packs based on articles published with CC-BY rights statements opened my eyes to a part of OUP/ESA’s business plan I had missed—the use of time-stamped PDFs to make money from students of the teachers who use study packs that include articles by ESA

[GOAL] Re: Can time-stamped PDF's qualify as OA?

2016-02-10 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Pippa Smart wrote: > There are a few issues here and I think it is important to separate them > out. > > *$400 for course packs* > OUP allows authors who want open access to select whether they want to > restrict reuse of their article - to

[GOAL] Re: Can time-stamped PDF's qualify as OA?

2016-02-10 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Walker,Thomas J wrote: > Peter Murray-Rust’s posting about $400 study packs based on articles > published with CC-BY rights statements opened my eyes to a part of > OUP/ESA’s business plan I had missed—the use of time-stamped PDFs to make > money

[GOAL] Re: Can time-stamped PDF's qualify as OA?

2016-02-10 Thread Pippa Smart
There are a few issues here and I think it is important to separate them out. *Date stamping articles* The rationale for this is to ensure that the article is properly cited - and because digital content can be updated it ensures that the users can justify their use/citation of content by the

[GOAL] Re: Can time-stamped PDF's qualify as OA?

2016-02-10 Thread Couture Marc
Pippa Smart wrote: “I agree that the licence wording is not as clear as it could be - but the requirement for "exclusive" publication refers to "first" publication - usually journals do not want to publish something that has already been published elsewhere (they want original content), and

[GOAL] Do libraries fight to preserve the public domain?

2016-02-10 Thread Lucie Burgess
Dear Peter, I wanted to respond to the point you made that: 'So the moral is that University libraries do not fight to preserve the public domain or CC-BY*. In a sad extension of this many libraries (including the British Library - whom I FOI'ed) will take the easy way and apply charges for

[GOAL] Re: Can time-stamped PDF's qualify as OA?

2016-02-10 Thread Lucie Burgess
Dear Peter and GOAL readers, At Oxford we work closely with Oxford University Press (OUP) on open access issues, as OUP is part of the University. Andy Redman, Editorial Director at OUP is a member of our Open Access Oxford Project Group, so I contacted him to respond to Peter and others’

[GOAL] Re: Can time-stamped PDF's qualify as OA?

2016-02-10 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
Thank you both for replying. On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Lucie Burgess < lucie.burg...@bodleian.ox.ac.uk> wrote: > Dear Peter and GOAL readers, > > At Oxford we work closely with Oxford University Press (OUP) on open > access issues, as OUP is part of the University. Andy Redman, Editorial

[GOAL] Re: Do libraries fight to preserve the public domain?

2016-02-10 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:55 PM, Lucie Burgess < lucie.burg...@bodleian.ox.ac.uk> wrote: > Dear Peter, > > I wanted to respond to the point you made that: > > *'So the moral is that University libraries do not fight to preserve the > public domain or CC-BY*. In a sad extension of this many

[GOAL] Re: Do libraries fight to preserve the public domain?

2016-02-10 Thread Lucie Burgess
Dear Peter, Ah, that wasn't clear. Thanks. But for humanities researchers this is a very relevant issue, and I should imagine there are some of them on the GOAL list too. For those who are interested the public domain EEBO-TCP transcriptions are freely available as TEI-XML files in the Oxford