Thank you, Valmiki, have enjoyed your writing too !
I have much regard for Yorrick and irmao, but am not kin.
Cardiology for me involves one's that have alas stopped beating - a registry
of diseased specimens in jars, of special infection interest.
Will try and get you a book on
Thank you, Teo, much appreciate. 'Last link' Rev. Apolinario Pinto was my
father's first cousin, and he may be linked to the School's loss of it's
accreditation: all 7000 of us will keep that a secret ! He was a Rachol
aluno, but had acquired english at some stage, unlike other priests
June 23rd is the anniversary of the first Mass said by Goan Blessed Joseph Vaz
on Sri Lankan soil
in 1687 and the 6th anniversary of the Joseph Naik Vaz Institute's Mass on June
23, 2000 in Rome
at the Oratorian church, Chiesa Nuova, presided by Cardinal Emeritus of Mumbai,
Cardinal Simon
Actually Kevin, it's fair play. Afterall, that's what
a democracy is. That's the reason, so many stalwart
Goans risked their life and limb, so we can could be
freed from the shackles of colonialism and become a
democratic state.
Felly/Francis/Frankie?Hankie/Pankie, is free to say
what he wants. I
Why? I am ashamed too. This is not a 'I Look at Goa through UV glasses'
forum. Here is a list du jour of I Am Ashamed Items and I am Proud Items.
I am Ashamed of:
1) The mindless sheep who flocked to the Inox theater not to view a mere
Hollywood movie and then critique it but to stop it from
The Gandhi Nobody Knows
Richard Grenier
[From the magazine, Commentary, March 1983,
published monthly by the American
Jewish Committee, New York, NY.]
I HAD the singular honor of attending an early private
screening of Gandhi with
an audience of invited guests from the National
Council of
I studied for one year in the 5th.Std. at the St.Theotonio Union High
School in 1943 when Fr.Pinto (brother of the well-known Prof.C.D.Pinto of the
St.Xavier's College, Bombay) was the Principal.
To the best of my knowledge, Fr. Jorda,S.J., who took over as Principal
when the school
I find it interesting that people from the extremist
religious right have no issue with enforcing their
hard line religious views, with no regard to the rule
of law. Contrary to the false subject line, there was
no legal ban on the movie as it had already passed the
requirements of the government
Dear all:
Many thanks to Gabe for initiating this World Cup Goan sweepstakes to benefit a
Goan charity for
seniors in Goa. This is Gabe's personal initiative; it is not an official
project of Goa Sudharop
although Gabe has kindly determined to donate the proceeds to Goa Sudharop
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.
*** GOA to publish Warhammer Online in Europe (Warcry)
The Press Release says:Mythic Entertainment, a leading
developer and publisher of massively-multiplayer online
role-playing games
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This admonition is totally uncalled for on a public
Goan forum. Elisabeth eloquently states what many
of us only have the courage to think (ie. those
of us who do THINK).
Mario observes:
Kevin,
Another one of your classic atheist/agnostic
pretenses.
--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not a practising Catholic but I do respect
those who sincerely believe in their Catholic
faith.
Mario observes:
Shown below is an example of the utmost respect that
Cornel has for Catholics who sincerely believe in
their Catholic faith, whom he
The Goa importing poverty thread evolved in a very enlightening and civil
manner into market economies. I thank both Elizabeth and Mario for keeping it
intellectual. Yet both (and the rest of us) would agree that anything good
(policies, regulations, laws) left to itself and taken to its
Livia/Jorge,
No big issue was made about continental Portugal. I had very briefly,
and
very politely asked, what it meant as I was genuinely quite unfamiliar with
the term as used in the post. Unfortunately, I received (addressed to me as
professor), an irate 'mini-lecture' instead, including
--- N Chandrasekharan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
HELLO,
This is to remind on the ROAD TO SAFETY ( ROAD
SAFETY) Even to-day I saw an accident at Miramar
near the Campal Inn. Accidents are more due to
negligence on the part of the two wheelers.
Are we aware of this evil? This is as bad as
--- Kaza Moyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Goanetters !
Just to say how much I enjoy this forum ! I'm
originally from Goa, but practised for quite a
while in the UK. I notice quite a few old friends
colleagues here. Hi Jose, hello Gilbert, viva
Santosh ! I've been away on holiday
What use is development (referring to tremendous
speedy development during the BJP coalition rule from
24.10.2000 to 2nd February, 2005 ) if a Hindu Catholic
and Muslim cannot walk hand in? --- this was the
view of Mr. Adolf Fernandes, a 65 year old toddy
tapper originally from Betul in Salcete
Mario,
Appeasement? I think you need to go whistle :-) The
Indian saying ...a mind closed like a steel-trap encased
in a wooden head reminds one of all the whistles the
'cabal' has given you, and you refuse to blow ! To wit:
We gave him a wooden whistle,
But he just wooden whistle,
We gave him
Dear Eric
Here follow some more details to add to my earlier posting on Fr. Jorda as
the first principal of Loyola High School, Margão.
Its earlier name St. Theotonio Union High School was derived from its
founder´s patron saint, namely of Patriarch-Archbishop of Goa, D. Theotonio
Vieira de
Jayant,
Do you have any recommendations on an Asian perspective on the freedom FROM
religion as it pertains to Goa?
There is a SecularGoa Yahoogroup which is concerned with interference of
politics into religion and vice versa but I was wondering if any of the
encouragingly successful
I have already posted my response in my reply to Mario
with the necessary archived links as well as specfic
quotes by Gilbert. It clearly shows Gilbert's refusal
to accept the crimes committed by the church against
the hindu majority during the inquisition - which
included the destruction of
Dear Felly/Frankie,
This admonition is totally uncalled for on a public Goan forum. Elisabeth
eloquently states what many of us only have the courage to think (ie. those
of us who do THINK).
I have publicly renounced the trappings of faith in a supernatural being
and have attracted my fair
I vaguely remember this thread back in March - April
2004. I think this is the post Marlon was referring
to? Marlon, please confirm
The post is titled Church built on temple?
http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2004-March/011273.html
Here is one of Marlon's replies:
Elisabeth,
Welcome back :-)) I guess you can take the Goan out
of Goa, but you cannot take Goa out of the Goan :-))
Now about that white picket fence...hurts me to even
think about it :-))
Mario
--- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Dear Francis,
Thank you for the advice. I maybe
Cornel,
I regard what you say with a some
deal of respect. But pray, why
do you think that Mario is not
one such insightful individual
(see below.)
Me, a simpleton for sure.
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 cornel wrote :
But there are insightful individuals who have not been near any
higher education
Hi Gilbert,
As you know, I have felt some scepticism about India's rapid growth to super
economic status in the imminent future but I dearly hope it is true and that
we will not be disappointed.
Cornel
- Original Message -
From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
--- Elisabeth Carvalho wrote:
Morality does not need the compass of religion to
guide it. It is inherent. Frazer in the Golden
Bough, wonderfully details how societies living in
isolation of each other invariably reach the same
conclusion. Pyramids for example are to be found
from
Hi Gilbert
In my asking you a simple question (about Catholic churches built on sites
where the Portugueuse destroyed Hindu temples), I couldn't possibly
misconstrue anything you might have said earlier and was not read by me. I
merely joined a discussion in mid-stream and therefore still
This is for those who like to read on immigration
crisis in US and related issues
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=E1_GRRNGQS
Brains and borders
Here's a book on immigrant women
Dreams, Questions, Struggles: South Asian Women in
Britain. Amrit Wilson. Pluto Press,
World Highest Railway Bridge in India Soon.
Indian Railways is undertaking construction of the worlds highest railway
bridge
over the Chenab River between Katra and Laol in Jammu and Kashmir.
- to be built at a hight of 359 metres over the river
- 35 metres higher than the Effel Tower of
http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=22369n_tit=Mangalore+Airp
ort+Status%3A+Who's+Playing+with+our+Sentiments%3F'
When the Mangalore airport started its flight operations in 1951, it was
one of the historic moments for the land of Dakshina Kannada and around.
During that time, not
The Govt. Hospitals, the Nurses, the Patients and the Patients Attendants
Government Hospitals such as Hospicio Magao, GMC Bambolim etc
Hospicio is a world class hospital yet our Ministers, MPs MLAs will never
use it.
They and their family would use other private hospitals like Appolo,
Elizabeth
Mario's rock solid moral compass is based on a simpleton's religious
oriented commonsense. What would be better for him is to have rock-solid
reading and engagment with theoretical ideas about how and why men/women
developed morality from earliest times--well before organised
Jean Marcos Catao,
Thank you for an interesting view of education and its uses. But first, I
think your explanation for lack of business drive among the Catholic Goans
is pretty accurate. There have been posts on Goanet about this issue before.
However, while it is probably true that most
Hi Joe
I agree with you entirely. I should very much like the Goans in Goa to show
what stuff they are made of by fighting and overcoming corruption on their
doorsteps. If the events relating to the Da Vinci Code in Goa are indicative
that there is resistance in the Goan backbone, then
Fellow netters,
The dates of the Masses in Konkani celebrated by Fr Oliver Antao, Goan
Chaplain, this month will be as follows :
Sunday June 11th - 3.30pm, at The Holy Rood Church, Swindon
Sunday June 18th - 3pm, at St Thomas Canterbury School Hall, Mitcham (also
a good chance to see our new
Dear Francis,
Thank you for the advice. I maybe ashamed to be Goan
on account of the Da Vinci Code debacle but I am still
a Goan and there are still Goans in Goa and in
diaspora, that make me proud to call myself a Goan. No
doubt, the Da Vinci episode will soon be forgotten but
something very
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most people know that mere assertions can never
trump documented facts. That many moral teachings in
religious texts are now regarded as immoral is a
well-known fact. A rock solid moral compass cannot
have such gaping immoral holes in it.
Mario
Re-sent
06.06.06 today (and 07.07.07 tomorrow)
Tomorrow, next month, next year it would be ..
070707
or
070707070707 (read as hours/minutes/seconds/day/month/year)
I gues every year we will have the abv pattern , next year being 0808080808,
followed by 090909090909, 101010101010,
The Jesuits were banned a third time in Portugal from operating from the
Portuguese territories in 1910, when the Portuguese republic was proclaimed.
The Jesuits had to function from elsewhere in Europe or from the British
India! They operated in Goa from their base at St. Paul's, Belgaum.
Since when have eminent cardiologists turned
linguists? With such depth and humour, I've
noticed over some time? Or am I mixing Yorrick's
bro. for someone else? Whichever Eric, this IS
great. Gimme more!
Two bits on spoken Konkani in Goa (as I hear it.)
It differs from one of Goa's river
Konkani Proverbs consisting of only two words but with a lot of meaning...
Ujeant tel.Putting oil into the fire. Adding insult to injury.
Kallukant pettBlows received in the dark.
Purtugalacho khapurlo ..Portugese Negroes.
In order to annoy the Portugese who are fair in complexion they
So far we have 7 people, there are 32 teams, so need more people to
come in on this one, although it has already been underwritten by one
more than generous soul from Canada!
The teams can be found at :-
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/team/qualified.html
The charity has been chosen and
I believe there is more than meets the eye, in this instance. The
flexing of muscles and making a point to the Right Wing Hindus,
Fundamentalist Muslims, Believers and what have you, played a part.
I believe Churchill could not allow himself to be shown as being
gutless! Had the Catholic Goans
Dear Jorge / Constantino,
My error, and I apologise to Constantino. What I
meant to state was that Constantino was
Portuguese-educated. Constantino 'Tino' Xavier is the
son of a Goan as you say, hailing from Fontainhas in
Panjim, if I am not mistaken. The last I heard, he was
pursuing a PhD at
Why do some people enjoy propagating fictitious (and/or imaginary) accounts
of happenings in Goa, while taking potshots from far away places? Dont
Goans in Goa know whats good or bad for them, and dont they have the right
to decide whats good in their interest? Let people (in Goa)
Mario,
I know it does not matter whether Portugual recognizes
the liberation of Goa or not. The post was to
clarify the situation.
Portuguese leaders who have visited India and
everything is fine and dandy now between the two
countries. See how Portugal send Aby Salem back to
India to face trial?
The Indian who revived Catholicism in Sri Lanka
COLOMBO DIARY | PK Balachandran
June 5, 2006
In the second half of the 17th century, two important developments took
place in Ceylon as Sri Lanka was then called. In 1658, the Dutch
replaced the Portuguese as the European military, political and
Hi Goanetters !
Just to say how much I enjoy this forum ! I'm originally from
Goa, but practised for quite a while in the UK. I notice quite
a few old friends colleagues here. Hi Jose, hello Gilbert,
viva Santosh ! I've been away on holiday for a while at the
Aguada, but am back
Goa-Mumbai bus bursts into flames; two dead
BY HERALD REPORTER
MARGAO, JUNE 5 - Tragedy struck a Mumbai-bound Goa bus late Sunday night
when it hit a tree and minutes later burst into flames near
Kankavali-Maharashtra leaving two dead and some injured. The accident
occurred at around 10.10 pm,
HELLO,
This is to remind on the ROAD TO SAFETY ( ROAD SAFETY) Even to-day I saw an
accident at Miramar near the Campal Inn. Accidents are more due to
negligence on the part of the two wheelers.
Are we aware of this evil? This is as bad as Davinci Code. Why there is no
response to this? Are we
Dear Gabe, Merwyn, Jose, Aurelius, Tony and others:
Thank you for using a fun event like the World Cup to raise money for a worthy
Goan cause. The
money donated to Goa Sudharop will be sent to one or two Goan charities in Goa
who work with
Seniors. It is most kind and generous of you. Donations
--
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your
family members, relatives, neighbours and friends.
Help others be BETTER INFORMED,
The time is come for the people of Goa
to ORGANISE not AGONISE !!
A Barcelona Jesuit, Pe. Jorda, published a Konkanni-English in the 40's,
perhaps a first for the language. He was transferred to Brazil in the 50's,
where he served out his teaching career. I want to believe that he conducted
Konkanni classes for children there, and he likely did !
On this matter- I would highly recommend Amartya Sen's book
The Argumentative Indian that gives an excellent account of how
India is steeped in a tradition of tolerence and heterodoxy (as opposed to
orthodoxy).
Jayant S Vaidya
On 04/06/06, Goanet Reader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
WANTED: AN
Today, I hang my head in shame as we have proved to
the rest of India that we are as intolerant as the RSS
and that we are as capable of stoking religious
sentiment for political gain as the BJP. I am truly
ashamed of being a Goan. I am ashamed of belonging to
that last bastion of the
Chhotebhai Noronha,
How do you expect us to believe you are saying truth everyone can cook up a
soup very easily but digesting it is difficult.
On 6/5/06, thomas azaredo wrote:
DON'T FEAR DAN BROWN OR DA VINCI. BE AFRAID OF OUR OWN IGNORANCE
By Chhotebhai Noronha
Dan Brown's fictional
HI this is anne from england , have read your report on goa , we
have been coming to goa for six years as tourists we enjoy goa very
much . we all have to progress building new homes lots of building
going on in england for people to have houses , but
I for one beg to differ with Pushpa Mam' when she mentions that Foreigners who
helped make Goa what it is today are no longer welcome to stay It's not a one
sided traffic, but who ever and whereever an expat . invests in any part of
the world he pumps in finance for his investments and if the
Would not like to Postmortem the above title. In short Let Positive minded ,
vibrant , aggressive, honest , trustworthy , hardworking , God fearing young
blood take the entire administration of Goa and then we watch the
developments. I have read a lot , written a lot (including myself) on the
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