[Goanet-news]GOANETREADER -- Radio rocks... with a live band aired
## # Don't just read the news... discuss it. Learn more about Goa via Goanet# # Goanet is a 10-year-old network launched by Herman Carneiro in 1994. # # See all archives http://news.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/ # # To join, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask to join GoanetDigest. # ## RADIO ROCKS: GOA CLAIMS TO SET A NATIONAL RECORD WITH A LIVE BAND AIRED From Frederick Noronha IT ONCE WAS a prominent radio station in India. In days when the rest of Indian broadcasting was turning puritanical, the Portuguese-run radio station at Altinho (Pangim, then) attracted listeners from far and wide. Radio Ceylon became a hit on the South Asian air-waves only later, and as one writer noted, it was the colonial Goa station that gave even top singers like Lata Mangueshkar her break and wider fame across the sub-continent. On Friday night, AIR FM Rainbow at Goa claimed to make radio history by becoming the first Indian radio station to host a live music band, rocking right out of its studios. AIR says once a fortnight, Goa's greatest bands will be invited to perform in their 'Nite of the Fortnight' shows in AIR's specially-designed (but so far inadequately-utilised) auditorium. FM radio has been growing in Goa. It first got a boost in the early 'nineties from Bombay-based private players with deep pockets (Times FM, Mid-Day, and even a local newspaper player that queued up to get a slot, and then handed it over to the bigger fish to actually manage). Younger talent and market-pressures (lavish government funding is drying up) has pushed AIR into being more conscious of local tastes, rather than being dogmatic about languages and style. Two private radio stations, which were supposed to be set up in Goa, didn't see the light of day. But the new attempts to marry commercial sponsors with local tastes might help to somewhat recoup part of the sheen lost by a station which has considerable gaps of silence between broadcasts, and has long been pendantic about what it airs. It was the local band named 'Alcatraaz' -- baptised after the high-security prison -- that kicked off the series. (Band-leader Jude Mascarenhas, who happens to be freedom-fighter and ex-editor's Lambert Mascarenhas' son, explained it thus: Music is like a prison. Once you're in there, you can't get out. I tried to leave the band twice or thrice myself.) This show kicked off at around 8.30 pm. By 9 pm the RJs (radio jockeys, in youth lingo) Savio Noronha and Bambino linked up to broadcast live to the state from out of Altinho. The 9-10 pm slot is kind of popular, inspite of having to compete with national TV and local cable TV Goa-news offerings that now come from three different commercial operators (including the English-run Goa-365). That FM caters to popular Western and/or Konkani tastes (with Marathi slots too, but always light music) helps. On Friday night, speeches were short. Station director B D Mazumdar praised Goans for knowing music, loving music, smelling music (did one hear right?) and creating music. Noted Indo-Latin fusion drummer Bondo was aptly the chief guest. (His sobriquet is a self-depreciating label that refers to a useless, half-formed coconut. But Joseph Ballarmio Fernandes can squeeze magical sounds out of his tubby fingers. He has a background of decades in music, began with his brother's band 'Sparks' in the 'seventies, and was then part of the Remo-and-Bondo team. Besides working in Europe, he has also performed in Indo-Jazz fusion and worked in Latino music. He's now back home in Goa, and has been here for some time now. He spent a decade in Portugal too, as one of the RJs pointed out.) This is the place where I started my (musical) life, said a grateful and nostalgic-sounding Bondo. He narrated how he got a chance to perform on radio while still in school, and how the influences of the tabla and harmonium had led him to experiment with Indian classical music too. Shifting back to the stage, the Alcatraaz comprises Jude Mascarenhas (guitarist and lead vocalist), Cassius Fernandes (keyboards), Patrick Silveira (percussions), Peter Faria (bass), Francis D'Souza (lead guitar) and Sandra Franco of Guirim on the vocals. One of the RJs pointed out that apart from Sandra, all the rest are from within 5 kms of Panjim. Some are from the Don Bosco's old boy's network. Jude was quick to recommend youngsters here to take to music. But persistence is a must, he cautioned, and don't expect to become an expert in three months. A prison it may be; but it's a pleasurable one at that. It was a kind of rewind, and anyway
[Goanet]At Club Vasco Da Gama, Panjim THE BLUES on Sunday, 17th October
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## -- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ --- --- At Club Vasco Da Gama, Panjim THE BLUES on 17th October Announcing the second of the seven part series titled THE BLUES executive produced by Martin Scorsese... THE BLUES is a set personal and impressionistic presentations by seven world-renowned directors who share a passion for the music. They capture the essence of blues music and delve into its global influence -- from its roots in Africa to its inspirational role in today's music... In the second of the series, WARMING BY THE DEVIL'S FIRE (106 minutes), director Charles Burnett explores his own past as a young boy who was shuttled back and forth between Los Angeles and Mississippi -- torn between an uncle who loved the blues and a mother who believed that the blues was the devil's music. Burnett boldly mixes fictional story-telling with documentary footage of a host of blues legends in a tale that dramatizes the tensions between the heavenly strains of gospel and the devilish moans of the blues... This event is organized and coordinated by PeeDee-DesNaz and the venue will be arranged by Ernesto at Club Vasco Da Gama, Panjim on Sunday, 17th October, 2004. It will start at 8:00 PM sharp. Contact: P. D. Mukherjee: 2456257 All are welcome. === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy ===
[Goanet]LPG Consumers Safety Camp at Nuvem on Sunday 17th Oct.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## -- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ --- - LPG Consumers Safety Camp at Nuvem on Sunday 17th Oct. - The Nuvem Civic and Consumer Forum in collaboration with M/ Goa Gas Service, Margao is organising a Safety Camp for the benefit of the LPG consumers of Bharat Petroleum on Sunday 17th October at 10am at Mae dos Pobres High School. The LPG Safety Camp is organised by the Distributor of Bharat Gas and the Consumer Forum to provide instructions to the consumers on the safe use of LPG cylinders. Demonstration and instructions on fitting the gas regulator, detection of gas leakages, change of rubber tube, insurance cover for consumers, mechanical check by authorized personnel of the company and emergency services by Bharat Petroleum will be provided at the Safety Camp. The resource persons for the program will be Mr. Jitendra Jiandani Senior Sales Officer, Bharat Gas. Consumers of Nuvem are invited to attend the LPG Safety Camp take benefit of the services provided. Press Release from Convenor - Olencio Fernandes Nuvem Civic and Consumer Forum. --- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- an initiative of GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE to promote civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goacan.org ---
[Goanet]NEWS FLASH ---Poinguinim - Bye elections BJP candidate wins
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## As widely predicted the Bharatiya Janata Party candidate Mr Isidore Fernandes won over the Indian National Congress Mr Jagdish Acharya as per the reports just recieved. Since the early hours of dawn, politicians supporters of respective candidates in the just concluded 40- Poinguinim Assembly Constituency began arriving at the scene of counting near the Multipurpose School at Gogal Fatorda Salcete Goa (on the Margao Curtorim road via Borda )to witness the suspense --- viz the outcome of the nearly 77.8% votes cast on 13th October,2004 There was a reasonable bandobust. Counting was scheduled to take place at 0800 hrs but as the ballot boxes were being taken out from 0730 hrs onwards the counting agents and the staff on Election duty set the pace a little later. The counting of the 21 booths was in two halfs besides the 22nd which constituted service votes. With this victory the ruling BJP combine has 23 MLAs 18 of BJP 01 UGDP convert to BJP Mr Antanasio (Babush) Monserrate 01 MGP convert to BJP Mr Pandurang Madkaikar duly supported by 01 UGDP MLA Mr Mathany Saldanha 01 MGP MLA Mr Sudhin Dhavlikar 01 Independent Mr Filipe Neri Rodrigues while the Opposition Indian National Congress combine remains at 17 15 INC 01 National Congress party Dr Wilfred De Souza 01 Francisco (Micky ) Pacheco UGDP (S) With this the stability of the BJP ruled government remains firm until the next hustings in May 2007. GODFREY J I GONSALVES Borda Margao Goa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony
[Goanet]Riabandar issue
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## This is in variance with what Aires has posted today. Who is speaking the truth here? The least Goanet admins should do is to verify the authenticity of characters who appear suspicious before allowing them to subscribe to Goanet. If not, they can keep sending false information to the world at large. regards, Samir Kelekar Bangalore Dear Gabe, and all you Goanetters. The mother of the girl, and the girl here self, did some weeks back withdraw their complaint against the Parish Priest. That there is still a dog barking on the road is nothing but normal. Specialy because the fuzz was initiated by a third party, who had a hidden agenda for the action taken. I would again request all of you to restraint your self for using Goanet as a forum for further more debate on this issue. Sincerely Yours. Maria Rodrigues God bless you ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Where have those golden songs gone? Where have those times gone?
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Remember: 1) The Young Ones by Cliff Richard (Weren't all of us in love then?) 2) Counting Colours in a Rainbow by Nina Frederick(Not Noronha) 3) Tell me Quando Quando, Quando (Pat Boone?) 4) Come September ( and musical chairs in sports?) 5) Baby Elephant Walk (Radio Ceylon?) 6) Things (Bobby Darren?) (Every night I'm sitting by my window, Staring at the lovely avenue,, Watching lovers, holding hands and laughing, Thinking of the things we used to do. 7)Socu, Socu 8) Underneath the Maango Tree 9) Wonder like you (Ricky Nelson). Today's version should have Taj Mahal) 11) Corina, Corina 12) Pearly Shell 13) One and two and I love you? (Anyone has this song's lyrics?) . So go ahead and add to the list and let's re-live those moments once again! Those were the good old days! And today's not so bad. Tomorrow, who knows? Forget your worries. Enjoy the songs. I think all those writers/composers of those popular hit songs should have been awarded Ph. D. or Nobel Prize. They really left a huge legacy in this world! In any language, a song is a song, a sheer thrill, pure magic, even though they are just words in music! It moves you, makes you feel good inside, makes you laugh and fall in love all over again.
[Goanet]RIBANDAR MOLESTATION CASE : POLICE SERVED LEGAL NOTICE
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Goa Police Crime Branch Police Inspector Ezilda D' Souza has today been served a legal notice by Mr. Anthony Frois uncle of the 13-year-old girl allegedly molested by the Ribandar Parish Priest Fr. Newton Rodrigues. In his notice it has been stated that if the charge sheet against the accused Priest is not filed within 48 hours a contempt of court petition will be filed against her for failure to comply with the undertaking given to the High Court on 16 September 2004. The notice copies of which have been sent to Director General of Police and Home Secretary states that Police Inspector Mrs Ezilda D' Souza had in a statement made on 16th September 2004 to the High Court stated that the investigation of this case is at the last stage and the charge sheet against the Priest was being filed shortly. The notice further states that although a month has elapsed since the said statement, there is no sign of any charge sheet being filed and apparently the Police Inspector does not desire to comply with the undertaking in her statement to the High Court. The notice also states that Mr. Frois has reasons to believe that since Police Inspector Mrs. Ezilda D'Souza is from Ribandar she is trying to delay the conclusion of this investigation to help the parish priest and that her failure to abide by the statement to the High Court is therefore deliberate and contumacious and interferes with the due administration of justice and that such deliberate failure to comply with her undertaking constitutes contempt of the High Court. The notice further states that there is intense pressure on the 13-year-old victim and her mother to withdraw their complaint, which was filed before the police on 18/8/2004 upon which an F.I.R. was registered against the Ribandar Parish Priest Fr. Newton Rodrigues. The notice states that Mr Frois is concerned that if prompt and deterrent action is not taken against such serious crimes, it will be a window of opportunity for such crimes to be perpetuated and that he is also concerned about the safety of children in sacred institutions like the church.
[Goanet]Caste... and all that
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Gilbert Lawrence responds: I would like to hear about a Chardo/ non-Brahmin Harvard MBA being turned down for marriage in exchange for a Brahmin school drop-out. Atam with soglem bhaile coming to Goa, and people settling in the village of their choice (economic ani leisure), the question and knowledge of where do you come from is redundant. Frankly only the petty-minded Goans link caste to which is your village? The reason: Most non-native (and native educated) Goans do not know Goa that well. I would request Fred to have thirty Goan villages and conduct a survey by asking the GoaNetters which of them are supposedly the Brahmin and non-Brahmin villages. Let's start with those who opine the loudest about caste.:=)) The rest of us will learn our Goan geography and a few things more. Regards. Frederick Noronha: Judging from the matrimonial ads in Goan newspapers Caste is still a major issue even among Catholics. True. Caste does come up strongest at the time of marriage. We've however been able to run the GOANET-CYBERMATRIMONIALS for a year or two now, without a single mention of caste!
[Goanet]London Goan DE'Souza flats for cash scandal
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## For full story and pics click on link below: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004472319,00.html Flats for cash scandal Wad ... De'Souza with rent money FULL NEWS INDEX By HARRY MACADAM AN OFFICIAL who helps give council homes to asylum seekers is secretly offering to rent flats to illegal immigrants for cash, The Sun can reveal. Crooked Aggie De'Souza, 65, drew up a tenancy agreement using a bogus name for The Sun's undercover reporter. He then offered advice on how to dodge immigration officials. Secret meeting ... our man with De'Souza Portuguese-born De'Souza, who earns around £20,000 a year, runs his scam from council offices in Sutton, Surrey. Last week he offered a flat to the Sun investigator - who posed as a Bulgarian illegal immigrant looking for accommodation. Our man, who jumped a queue of locals with housing problems, was handed a dingy one-bed flat for an up-front cash payment of £1,390. He was told the rent would be £695 a month. All bills would be paid by De' Souza. The official said: I'll pay the council tax. Any bills you bring to me in my office. Here's the key ... The Sutton home is ours De'Souza, who works as an assessment officer for Sutton Council's asylum seeker support service, warned that Home Office officials frequently checked for illegals in the town. He added: They're very hot in Sutton. No flat is safe but nobody will kick you out. They always come at nine at night or in the early morning. I can come quickly and get you out. He then gave our reporter a tour of the flat in a quiet street minutes from the town centre. Bogus letting ... the flat in Sutton He was told: For the time being we only take cash. I can't give you a contract because I work for the Home Office and you're illegal here. De'Souza told our man to sign an asylum seeker's tenancy agreement using the false name of Bledar Gashi. He then handed over the keys. Our dossier of evidence will be offered to Lib Dem-run Sutton Council. A spokesman said: The member of staff in question has been suspended and we have started a full investigation. Police have also been informed.
[Goanet]GOANETREADER -- Radio rocks ...with a live band aired
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## RADIO ROCKS: GOA CLAIMS TO SET A NATIONAL RECORD WITH A LIVE BAND AIRED From Frederick Noronha IT ONCE WAS a prominent radio station in India. In days when the rest of Indian broadcasting was turning puritanical, the Portuguese-run radio station at Altinho (Pangim, then) attracted listeners from far and wide. Radio Ceylon became a hit on the South Asian air-waves only later, and as one writer noted, it was the colonial Goa station that gave even top singers like Lata Mangueshkar her break and wider fame across the sub-continent. On Friday night, AIR FM Rainbow at Goa claimed to make radio history by becoming the first Indian radio station to host a live music band, rocking right out of its studios. AIR says once a fortnight, Goa's greatest bands will be invited to perform in their 'Nite of the Fortnight' shows in AIR's specially-designed (but so far inadequately-utilised) auditorium. FM radio has been growing in Goa. It first got a boost in the early 'nineties from Bombay-based private players with deep pockets (Times FM, Mid-Day, and even a local newspaper player that queued up to get a slot, and then handed it over to the bigger fish to actually manage). Younger talent and market-pressures (lavish government funding is drying up) has pushed AIR into being more conscious of local tastes, rather than being dogmatic about languages and style. Two private radio stations, which were supposed to be set up in Goa, didn't see the light of day. But the new attempts to marry commercial sponsors with local tastes might help to somewhat recoup part of the sheen lost by a station which has considerable gaps of silence between broadcasts, and has long been pendantic about what it airs. It was the local band named 'Alcatraaz' -- baptised after the high-security prison -- that kicked off the series. (Band-leader Jude Mascarenhas, who happens to be freedom-fighter and ex-editor's Lambert Mascarenhas' son, explained it thus: Music is like a prison. Once you're in there, you can't get out. I tried to leave the band twice or thrice myself.) This show kicked off at around 8.30 pm. By 9 pm the RJs (radio jockeys, in youth lingo) Savio Noronha and Bambino linked up to broadcast live to the state from out of Altinho. The 9-10 pm slot is kind of popular, inspite of having to compete with national TV and local cable TV Goa-news offerings that now come from three different commercial operators (including the English-run Goa-365). That FM caters to popular Western and/or Konkani tastes (with Marathi slots too, but always light music) helps. On Friday night, speeches were short. Station director B D Mazumdar praised Goans for knowing music, loving music, smelling music (did one hear right?) and creating music. Noted Indo-Latin fusion drummer Bondo was aptly the chief guest. (His sobriquet is a self-depreciating label that refers to a useless, half-formed coconut. But Joseph Ballarmio Fernandes can squeeze magical sounds out of his tubby fingers. He has a background of decades in music, began with his brother's band 'Sparks' in the 'seventies, and was then part of the Remo-and-Bondo team. Besides working in Europe, he has also performed in Indo-Jazz fusion and worked in Latino music. He's now back home in Goa, and has been here for some time now. He spent a decade in Portugal too, as one of the RJs pointed out.) This is the place where I started my (musical) life, said a grateful and nostalgic-sounding Bondo. He narrated how he got a chance to perform on radio while still in school, and how the influences of the tabla and harmonium had led him to experiment with Indian classical music too. Shifting back to the stage, the Alcatraaz comprises Jude Mascarenhas (guitarist and lead vocalist), Cassius Fernandes (keyboards), Patrick Silveira (percussions), Peter Faria (bass), Francis D'Souza (lead guitar) and Sandra Franco of Guirim on the vocals. One of the RJs pointed out that apart from Sandra, all the rest are from within 5 kms of Panjim. Some are from the Don Bosco's old boy's network. Jude was quick to recommend youngsters here to take to music. But persistence is a must, he cautioned, and don't expect to become an expert in three months. A prison it may be; but it's a pleasurable one at that. It was a kind of rewind, and anyway slow-changing (why not?) Goa is known for its taste for the music of the
[Goanet]'Francis, the man in a hurry....... a musical -dance -drama
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## 00 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Society of Pilar Dear Goans, I am assisiting the Pilar priests to stage a musical -dance -drama on St. Francis Xavier..titled \'Francis, the man in a hurry\'. Can the Society of Pilar get any assistance to stage this play during the exposisition? It is being produced to international standards will be staged 4 shows a day for 10 days. It has the approval of the ArchBishop who will be inaugurating the first show. Please inform all Goan associations in the World. I will be happy to provide all info required. Thank you all. Boromor Dias
[Goanet]Today's news... related to Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## 35TH IFFI in Goa from November 29 to December 9: http://athens-olympics-2004.newkerala.com/?action=fullnewsid=36766 http://news.google.com/news?ie=utf8oe=utf8persist=1num=30hl=enclient=googlencl=http://athens-olympics-2004.newkerala.com/%3Faction%3Dfullnews%26id%3D36766 THE Clubber's Dictionary: Goa Trance Belfast Telegraph (subscription) - Belfast,Northern Ireland,United Kingdom The genre of Goa trance developed around European industrial, trance, ambient sounds and British dance-pop. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/music/story.jsp?story=572206 ERIK Davis: Hedonic Tantra: Golden Goa's Trance Transmission DisInfo.com - USA 'A big think remix of an earlier article about the Goan trance scene, circa 1994. http://www.disinfo.com/site/displayarticle6378.html CONG leaders created terror in Poinguinim, alleges BJP Navhind Times - Panjim,India http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=10155
[Goanet]India to use FX to improve infrastructure.FT.Com
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## http://news.ft.com/cms/s/096fc2d8-1ed9-11d9-9015-0e2511c8.html India in precedent setting infrastructure move By Edward Luce in New Delhi Published: October 15 2004 19:37 | Last updated: October 15 2004 19:37 India is drawing up plans to use some of its almost $120bn of foreign exchange reserves to fund domestic infrastructure projects in a step that has no precedent elsewhere. The plan, which is likely to prove controversial, would help raise badly needed capital to upgrade India's ailing roads, railway and power sectors. India spends just $2bn a year on its road network, compared to $30bn spent in neighbouring China. The new Congress-led coalition, which unexpectedly came to power in May, has made expensive commitments to raise spending on health, education and other social priorities, none of which will provide a direct return to the government unlike infrastructure. Critics of the plan say it would be an inappropriate use of India's foreign exchange reserves and would add to India's already high fiscal deficit, which is roughly 10 per cent of gross domestic product if both central and state deficits are included. But senior officials say India's reserves, which have almost tripled in the past three years, are more than enough to cover any exchange rate shock, amounting to almost 20 months worth of imports. In addition, India's record foreign exchange reserves represent a large opportunity cost, they say, since most of the money is invested in low-yielding US Treasury bonds. We are subsidising the American economy, said one official. These are scarce resources that can be put to better use. Under the plan, India's central bank would issue a bond of between $10bn and $15bn, the proceeds of which would go to a public infrastructure fund, which, in turn, would attract private capital. The resulting inflationary impact would be offset by a reduction in import duties, which is what New Delhi has pledged to do anyway. Montek Singh Ahluwalia, head of India's Planning Commission, said it would be more effective than simply monetising the proceeds of a normal government bond and assuming the resulting fall in interest rates would stimulate higher private sector investment in infrastructure. Infrastructure investment generates a much higher yield than other investments but requires a large public sector component to stimulate activity, Mr Singh said. Ultimately it depends on whether you think India needs its foreign reserves to be as high as this. Critics say it would risk creating white elephant projects since the funds would be controlled by the public sector, which has a poor record in India. But Montek Singh, who is the closest adviser to Manmohan Singh, the prime minister, says India's infrastructure needs cannot be fully met by public spending. It is a question of thinking pragmatically, says one official. At just over $4bn last year, India attracts a fraction of the foreign direct investment of China. Economists say India needs to drastically upgrade its infrastructure if it is to raise annual growth from 6 per cent to 8 per cent.
Re: [Goanet]Caste... and all that
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Did the caste among Catholics in Goa truly correspond with their pre-colonial lineage? Neal Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pintomusic.com
[Goanet]Adeus...Mary Vaz of Konkani Stage
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Like her great comedian husband Jacint Vaz, Mary Vaz too has acted in many Tiatrs. She may have not claimed awards but she was seen in many dramas under different directors. A devoted artist who would do more and more for the stage. Even if she was just given a part to act in the main plot, she would request for a song to sing.(Of course with no extra share). Professionally that I've acted in a few Tiarts under Late Fr. Freddy J. Da Costa and late Dr. Rosario Rodrigues, I had the opportunity to act with Mrs. Mary Vaz. She would humbly call me 'Puta'. which I presume was because Jacint Vaz acted as my father in most of the Tiatrs. A simple and humble a seniormost konkani artist is no more. As I write this in honour of her, I wish to sympathies with her sons Tony Peter and their families. May her soul rest in Peace. -Alfonso Bond Braganza Mrs. Mary Vaz, one of the seniormost konkani stage artist and wife of late Jacinto Vaz (Goa's Charlie Chaplin) passed away peacefully early this morning at her residence in Azossim, Mandur. Her funeral will take place today evening. Daniel F. de Souza.
[Goanet]Trade between India and Portugal
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## TRADE BETWEEN INDIA AND PORTUGAL - A Blueprint for the Future An article with the above title, authored by the Ambassador of India in Portugal Ms. Latha Reddy, was published in the last number (for July / September 2004) of the Boletim da Casa de Goa, Lisbon. The article is reproduced below. - Jorge - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - In spite of our close and friendly historical and cultural links, Indo-Portuguese trade remains relatively low. Indo-Portuguese trade was only USD 180 million in the year 2003-04. While the EU is India's major trading partner with a bilateral trade total of Euro 28 billion in 2003-04, the trade between India and Portugal is less than 1% of this total which can certainly be improved. There is, therefore, a huge opportunity that exists for businessmen in various sectors in Portugal and in India as the markets remain relatively unexplored. Both markets are highly developed and there are, as well, competitive cost differentials of goods and services based on specialisations in each country, and exchange-rate differentials could also be exploited. More importantly, today India is one of the fastest growing economies of the world. India has had an extraordinary GDP growth of 10.4% in the quarter ending in December 2003. Analysts all over the world have predicted that India could become one of the world's three largest economies in less than 30 years. India is certainly on the brink of a major breakthrough and is now considered one of the best markets globally. The sectors of trade importance include traditional sectors like agricultural products, precious and semi precious stones, gems and jewellery, leather goods, handicrafts and cotton textiles and garments. The sectors having high potential for growth are information technology, pharmaceuticals, biotechnology, auto components and scientific research. Also there are untapped opportunities in areas like tourism. The Indian outbound tourist market is one of the fastest growing tourist markets in the world. Growing incomes have meant that more Indians are travelling to various parts of the world. Similarly, Portuguese tourism to India can surely also expand from its present low total of 4000 tourists per year. Some of the measures which are being actively examined by the Embassy of India in Portugal to encourage trade between Portugal and India are as follows: (examine the Rules and Regulations that govern trade between India and Portugal. Efforts would be made to remove the barriers/disincentives and make the terms of trade more conducive to conducting business. (the Mission is also engaged in securing participation of Portuguese companies in the forthcoming India-EU business summit in October 2004. (assisting in establishing and building relations between businessmen from India and Portugal and mediating in trade disputes. (extensive publicity to India's economic achievements and generation of interest in Portugal towards deepening and intensifying trade and investment with India. (creation of a computerized database of Indian and Portuguese Businessmen / Companies / Industry Associations / Government and Non-Government Trade Promotion bodies for trade promotion. Efforts would be made towards harnessing ICTs towards trade promotion. (assisting and promoting trade by building up a knowledge-base of business environment in Portugal. (focus attention, including market surveys, on priority areas in which India has existing powers like ICTs, pharmaceuticals, gems and jewelllery, automobile parts and infrastructure. (efforts would also be made to secure Portuguese investment into Indian economy by highlighting India's potential to emerge as one of the world's largest economy in coming decades. (market research of prospects of Trade between India and Portugal to be conducted by experts in Portugal. This would be undertaken following budgetary approval by Ministry of Commerce. (promotion, facilitation and coordination of visits of Indian Businessmen/Companies to Portugal and vice-versa. Indian businessmen participated in the International Handicrafts Exhibition in July/August, 2004. Also the participation of Indian businessmen is being coordinated for the International leather exhibition in November 2004. (continuous engagement of local government and industrial and trade bodies towards exploring trade potential with India. The comparative advantages of trade are emphasized in all forms of our engagement. (promotion of direct air links between India and Portugal. Establishing,
Re: [Goanet]Caste... and all that
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hi Gilbert, I haven't yet had time to respond to Fred's excellent suggestions regarding a debate on caste. However, I can't go along with your suggestion that caste is a topic for those who have nothing better to do or discuss. Your words clearly echo segregationist views in the USA in the 1950s at the height of the movement to desegregate schools in the USA and to desegregate bus transport. I suggest that your life in the USA has benefitted hugely (among other things) through the hard struggle towards equality of that period when you were not yet there. No, no, no, my dear Gilbert, the persistence of caste in Catholic Goa has survived too long with all its destructiveness to Goan society as identified by Fred. It hasn't adequately been countered/opposed intellectually. And although, perhaps, casteists may now find themselves between a rock and a hard place, time has run out well beyond the sell by date and caste needs to be dealt with as such. Therefore, please do not be unhelpful and stop this important debate even before it has started. On something else you might wish to reflect, in most organisations, to get anything done it has to be passed on to a busy person. Delivery and productivity from such people is infinitely greater than from layabouts who have nothing to do. Please believe me when I say that Goanet is probably kept alive and ticking by people with their own very busy professional lives. Cordially, Cornel - Original Message - From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:45 PM Subject: [Goanet]Caste... and all that
[Goanet]US Navy enjoys the unique culture of Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Headline: Sailors Enjoy Visit to India During Malabar 04 Source: Navy News Stand. 14 Oct 2004 at: http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=15513 By Journalist 1st Class Todd Macdonald, Exercise Malabar 04 Public Affairs Full text: GOA, India (NNS) -- Sailors from USS Cowpens (CG 63), USS Gary (FFG 51), and USS Alexandria (SSN 757) took some time before and after the second phase of Exercise Malabar 04, Oct. 3-9, to enjoy the unique culture of Goa, India. Malabar, a bilateral exercise between the U.S. and Indian navies, was designed to increase interoperability between the two navies while enhancing the cooperative security relationship between India and the United States. The at-sea training included maritime interdiction, surface events, sub-surface and air events, as well as personnel exchanges. Wandering the streets and market places, the numerous street-side vendors and the wide variety of food choices were not lost on Sailors. I had things in my mind that I wanted to buy before I got here, said Religious Programs Specialist 1st Class (SW) Rose Jordan, a Sailor assigned to Cowpens, and a Pittsburgh native. So far, I have seen everything I wanted. I am not leaving here without a sari, the traditional dress for Indian women. Goa is a former Portuguese colony, so its cuisine and architecture are different than other parts of India. I love Indian food, said Chief Operations Specialist (SW/AW) John Yancy, a Kerrville, Texas, native, also assigned to Cowpens. With the Portuguese influence, it is different than the traditional Indian food, he said. I was surprised when I saw the buildings here, said Cowpens crew member and Brooklyn native, Operations Specialist 2nd Class Eric Guenther. They remind me of the buildings in Spain. Many Sailors shopped in Panji, the capital city of Goa, as they walked through the sounds of honking horns and anxious street vendors. I really enjoyed the shopping, said Master at Arms 1st Class Carlos Ramirez, a crew member aboard Gary and a Queens, N.Y., native. There are so many cool things to buy, and I love to bargain for prices. Nobody is going to out-haggle me. Besides the shopping and eating, Sailors also had a chance to interact with their Indian navy counterparts on the sports fields, playing soccer, volleyball, basketball and golf. It was good sportsmanship. Everyone had fun, said Lt. Cmdr. Brad Alaniz, operations officer aboard Cowpens. These events were a welcome break from the exercises of the past week. All the Sailors experienced the gentle and kind nature of the Indian people. I was surprised at how friendly the people in India are, said Boatswain's Mate 1st Class (SW) Ross Zahara, a crew member aboard Gary and a Fulton, Mo., native. They really went out of their way to make us feel as comfortable as possible. The U.S. ships left Goa Oct. 11, having gained very positive impressions of the area. It's kind of cool here, I'm really digging it. It's always good to see other countries and experience new things, said Gunner's Mate 3rd Class Daniel LeBrun from New Orleans, a Cowpens Sailor. Cowpens is a multi-mission platform capable of supporting anti-air, anti-surface, and anti-submarine warfare. The 9,600-ton warship can support carrier strike groups, amphibious forces or can operate independently. Commanded by Capt. John J. Sorce, a Tennessee native, Cowpens is permanently forward deployed to the Western Pacific and operates from Yokosuka, Japan. Gary, commanded by Cmdr. Rob Marin of Los Angeles, is a 4,100-ton warship that supports carrier and expeditionary strike groups by providing a platform for anti-submarine and anti-air warfare. The ship is permanently forward deployed to Yokosuka, Japan. Alexandria, commanded by Cmdr. Thomas. J. Kearney, is a 6,900-ton Los Angeles-class attack submarine homeported in Groton, Conn. Attack submarine mission areas include anti-submarine warfare, anti-surface warfare, special warfare and strike warfare. For more information, visit the U.S. 7th Fleet Web site at www.c7f.navy.mil. For related news, visit the Commander, U.S. 7th Fleet Navy NewsStand page at www.news.navy.mil/local/c7f = See also Malabar Sailors Pitch in at Community Service Project Excerpt: MARGAO. Sailors put smiles on the faces of the students of The Trust of Nanu Nagle School for the Poor here, when they donated medical supplies, sewing machines and books, and painted two classrooms and playground equipment for a community service project Oct. 10. Full text at:
[Goanet]Goan achievers in Easf Africa Portugal
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Viv n Rui ! Goans were treated differently in Portugal and probably in Spain too for a number of reasons - including the fact that we had same last names and are easily adaptable. The Iberians are less inclined to be discriminatory as opposed to other Europeans. My older brother- Steve who lives in Spain has attested to that fact. Hence you cannot make a comparison with France which was then very prejudiced- even though it has a large Roman Catholic population- and is probably still very prejudiced today. So I am certain that Dr. Paes -who did not have a French last name- did not receive the same treatment as the White French. Coupled with the fact that during the period he worked there, there must have been few colored workers - let alone porfessionals. Similarly Viv strikes a very important chord when he talks of how highly regarded goans were in East Africa, and I can assure you that in many cases we were given preference in jobs by certain British bosses because of our easy adaptability, better command of English- spoken and written, honesty and dedicated to our jobs.( One issue that got the Brits mad with other Indians was when they started speaking among themselves- in front of other non-Indians- in their Indian languages. They felt that should speak a language commonly understood by everyone which would have been Englsh or Swahili). The admittance and treatment at hospitals which were solely for whites or Europeans as they were classified then, is a glaring example; and Viv , you could add the Queensway Nursing Home in Oyster Bay where my wife-Edna was born and where many goans were born. It was also classified as a Europeans only , although Asians were permitted.( After independence , it was converted to the ever popular Oyster Bay Hotel). But the hospital where I was born in Iringa will probably tell you a different story if not the reality. The maternity wing at the government hospital where I was born had a seperate area designated for Europeans and Asians only. One of the rigid conditions placed by the management was that no patient could bring their own food, and hence had to eat the food given by the hospital which included pork sausages, bacon and ham for breakfast, and possibly a beef dish for either lunch or dinner. As a result , many other Indian women - notably Hindus and Muslims -opted to have their babies delivered else-where. But 11 days before I was born in the late forties, a Khoja Ismaili (Shiite muslim) woman decided otherwise and ate pork when served. Well as you can expect, it was the talk among the Asian and African women workers who constantly told my mother that the woman ate pork. She delivered female twins. On a lighter note, after transferring from Dar es Salaam to Iringa to complete my high school education, I happened to have studied in the same school with these two girls who were four classes below me. By strange coincidence, one of them hated my guts , while the other was head over heels crazy after me. I never consulted anybody for advice and felt that avoiding them- since they were closely bonded - was my best bet. It turned out to be the right decision. Tony Barros. Union, New Jersey. ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
[Goanet]re: Dabolim, Churchill and Alemao
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Philip Thomas Oct 14 22:36:02 2004 (1) I dont know why I get the feelng that both sides have little or no grounds for their respective stands and are simply falling back on playing a shouting match that too in perpetuity! Philip Thomas Oct 13 06:33:07 2004 (2)Even if Goa succeeds through the highly acclaimed efforts of Churchill (Alemao, that is, and not Winston) to get the Navy to move out of Dabolim, will one then object to control by the Airport Authority of India, a central government undertaking, which runs most airports in the country? Dear Mr. Phillip Thomas, wrt (1) once again, I believe that you might need to acquaint yourself with Dabolim. The airport and its environs have been taken over by the Indian Navy. They are NOT leaving FULL STOP... They will listen to pleadings as much as Squatters who come and squat in your property. FYI, I doubt any shouting is going on. There has been (until recently) NO avenue for anyone to make a case or hold a discussion. This is why Mr. Alemao was prevailed upon - to make the case to the Centre. wrt (2) please note the contents of the Alemao letter. I repeat my belief that your question (quoted above) is prejudicial. Either that, or you are arguing from a position of being quite unaware. So that ALL of us are on the same page, I am reproducing (with permission) the Churchill Alemao letter of Sept 13, 2004 Please note that Mr. Alemao is NOT my idea of a good statesman. However, in this case, I applaud his actions wrt this matter. good wishes jc I have exhausted my information on this matter. = A letter from Mr. Churchill Alemao, MP to Mr. Balasaheb Patil, MP and Chairman of the Defence Standing Committee 13th September 2004 Dear Chairman, There have been problems faced by the Airport Authority of India in the civil operations of aircrafts at Dabolim Airport. The main problem is that the Dabolim Civil Airport has been taken over by the Indian Naval Authority. Very often restrictions are imposed by our Navy on the landing slots of foreign chartered aircrafts carrying foreign tourists. I would like to emphasise the importance of Goa as number one on the tourist map of India. There are nearly 300 to 400 hotels and resorts from Deluxe, 5-stars to 2-3 stars and almost 6-7 lakhs Goans depend on tourist trade for their livelihood. Revenues from tourist trade benefit directly or indirectly both the Goa State and our country as a whole. The question of shifting the Naval Base from the Dabolim Airport to Sea Bird Naval Base, Karwar, has already been taken up separately with the Ministry of Defence, Government of India in the right earnest. I would request the Committee to deliberate on this issue of national importance and lend their weight to the proposal of shifting the Naval Base from Dabolim Airport so that it functions as a full fledged Civil Airport without any hindrances. The example of Red Fort in Delhi is there to follow in the interest of Tourism. I am enclosing the following documentary evidence to prove that the Dabolim Airport is actually a Civil Airport: 1. In 1955 a decree was passed to build an airport for civil aviation. (Portuguese Government). 2. Document showing that after 'Operation Vijay', the Civilian Airport was taken over by Defence forces only for its maintenance. 3. Documents enlists all airports in India and are classified at Civil, Defence and Private. But Goa (Dabolim Airport) does not figure at all because, conveniently they hid its actual owner so that they could manipulate the Goa Government. 4. Official Gazette of former Colonial Government proves that Dabolim was a Civilian Airport. 5. For background purpose:- Goa being a very small state, it cannot afford to misuse, waste or part with its land resources. Defence and Central Government agencies occupy the major part of Vasco and Dabolim. 6. Some press cuttings to show why Dabolim Airport should be restored to its civilian status and the Naval Training enclave should move to the biggest Naval Base at Sea Bird at Karwar. It must be noted that the Defence forces took over the Anjedive Island for expansion of Sea Bird Base without any compensation or benefit for Goa. I am at your disposal for any further clarification required in this behalf. With regards, Yours sincerely, Churchill Alemao M.P. (Lok Sabha) Ex-Chief Minister - Goa. Reproduced courtesy Gaspar Almeida Carmo Santos of the Goa Welfare Society, Kuwait with expressed permission to reproduce this letter given them by Mr. Churchill Alemao, MP (Lok Sabha) TGF October 14, 2004
[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #1548 - 18 msgs
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Somebody remarked I have no Caste, I am a Catholic. Sadly that somebody would be better served if he said I have no Caste, I am Egalitarian. Caste is not a religious construct but a social one in our present social organisation.Although its origins is in the Vedic system of appropriation of division of labour and hence has a religious sanction, it did not place impediments for upward mobility. The Caste system was entrenched in Goa by the sanction of the Catholic Church. Evidence of this is found in the appointment to senior positions in the Church hierarchy which was entirely reserved for the sons of Brahmin families. Evidence of this was in the appointment of Parish priests and promotion afforded to the hierarchy of the Administration of the Church including the appointment of the Archbishops and Bishops in Goa in the 17/18th century which was not very different from what happened in recent years. To this day there are Church Fraternities in some villages which were formed on their respective Caste affiliations and who religiously celebrate particular feasts allocated to each caste. To those interested in folklore it might assist them to look up at the remark of the lady who was dying in Sangolda and remarked in her last words something that represented a caste distinction. It seems to me people only fall back on their privileges when they lack something more substantial like Education and Corporate success. Among educated people there is seldom evidence of distinction based on caste. It is rather based on the quality of their knowledge and understanding of their place in the world. Those who depend entirely on caste will soon find themselves relegated to the lowest rung in the social hierarchy. Like in the appointments to the church hierarchy in Goa there will be levelling out sooner than later. Like the British, Goan caste distinction is embedded in the choice of vocabulary and linguistic differences. Hence, in many expatriate communities abroad people rather speak in English then in Konkani lest they be found out. When people treat others for what they are, then for what they were, we might be making some progress. Albert Da Cruz. 6. Re: Goans in East Africa (Bernado Colaco) 7. Caste... and all that (Gilbert Lawrence) 8. Re: Caste... and all that (cornel) 9. Xavier's Principal bereaved. (Miguel Braganza) 10. PLANT UTSAV 2004 (Miguel Braganza) 11. VANILLA (Miguel Braganza) 12. PLUS tabloids (Miguel Braganza) 13. Rui Collaco's posting on Goan achievers in Portugal (Vivian D'Souza) 14. Re: Goan Cardinal in Fatima (Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha) 15. Caste... and all that ! (Vivian D'Souza) 16. Star-Ledger article on Goans in NJ (BAIRD, CHRISTINE) 17. caste ..and all that (A.C. Menezes) 18. Re: Caste... and all that (Frederick Noronha(FN)) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Goans in East Africa Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:27:55 +0100 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to agree with Rui Collaco's post that the attitude to 'coloured' people or to 'visible professional minorities', has been different between Anglo-Saxons and those of Iberian people, especially in the case of the educated Portuguese. When on holiday in Portugal and especially when attending conferences there, I have been struck by the warm reception I have inevitably received from the indigenous Portuguese as an Irmao or brother. This is clearly, because of my Portuguese name and knowledge of my Goan origins. In four decades, a welcome as a brother has never happened to me in the UK and is unlikely ever to happen. I put this to a significant cultural difference between the way Anglo-Saxons invariably see me as the eternal foreigner, however educated, sophisticated or long resident in the UK., even though there is a growing awareness of the unsupportable former colonial position on race with the advent of simple contact, cuisine and even anti-racist education. In contrast, the educated indigenous Portuguese have invariably seen me as Portuguese, regardless of my cordial insistence that I am Indian! One just can't win!! The above situation is also to be found historically in the way the Portuguese saw their black slaves compared to the way Anglo-Saxons saw such black slaves in mainland America. The process of manumission, for example, was significantly different between the two peoples. I have no firm knowledge about racism, prejudice and discrimination in Portugal today but I feel certain that some must
[Goanet]EVENT -- The Blues, screening at Clube Vasco da Gama Oct 17
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## THE BLUES --- 2nd get-together --- Announcing the second of the seven part series titled THE BLUES -- executive produced by Martin Scorsese... THE BLUES is a set personal and impressionistic presentations by seven world-renowned directors who share a passion for the music. They capture the essence of blues music and delve into its global influence -- from its roots in Africa to its inspirational role in today's music... In the second of the series, WARMING BY THE DEVIL'S FIRE (106 minutes), director Charles Burnett explores his own past as a young boy who was shuttled back and forth between Los Angeles and Mississippi -- torn between an uncle who loved the blues and a mother who believed that the blues was the devil's music. Burnett boldly mixes fictional story-telling with documentary footage of a host of blues legends in a tale that dramatizes the tensions between the heavenly strains of gospel and the devilish moans of the blues... This event is organized and coordinated by PeeDee-DesNaz and the venue will be arranged by Ernesto at Club Vasco Da Gama, Panjim on Sunday, 17th October, 2004. It will start at 8:00 PM sharp. Contact: P. D. Mukherjee: 2456257 All are welcome...
Re: [Goanet]Goan Cardinal in Fatima
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Reference my yesterday's post wherein I said that the name of the Auxiliary Bishop of Delhi is Sunil, the correct name is Anil. (And I think he uses the surname Couto and not Coutts). Sorry for the mistake. Jorge
[Goanet]my apologies
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## My apologies to Mr.Soter DeSouza and FN ofcourse. However, my compliments are still in order to Soter and FN as well...Chris Fernandes On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Chris Fernandes wrote: Dear friends, My compliments to FN for a well written, well researched and an anylitcal piece on degradation of Goa environment. Hi Chris: Kindly note, the article was not written by me, but came from Soter DeSouza. I merely forwarded it. As such, the author of the article is Soter DeSouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] FN Disclaimer : This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. It should not be used by any one who is not the original intended recipient. If you have erroneously received this message, please delete it immediately and notify the sender. The recipient acknowledges that MOSt is unable to exercise control or ensure or guarantee the integrity of/over the contents of the information contained in e-mail transmission and further acknowledges that any views expressed in this messages are those of the individual sender and does not bind MOSt unless the sender does so expressly with due authority with MOSt. Before Opening any attachment please check them for viruses and defects.
[Goanet]Hands, an inspiring story
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## PASS THIS ONE ON, IT'S A KEEPER. HANDS An old man, probably some ninety plus years, sat feebly on the park bench. He didn't move, just sat with his head down staring at his hands. When I sat down beside him he didn't acknowledge my presence and the longer I sat I wondered if he was ok. Finally, not really wanting to disturb him but wanting to check on him at the same time, I asked him if he was ok. He raised his head and looked at me and smiled. Yes, I'm fine, thank you for asking, he said in a clear strong voice. . I didn't mean to disturb you, sir, but you were just sitting here staring at your hands and I wanted to make sure you were ok, I explained to him. . Have you ever looked at your hands, he asked. I mean really looked at your hands? I slowly opened my hands and stared down at them. I turned them over, palms up and then palms down. No, I guess I had never really looked at my hands as I tried to figure out the point he was making. Then he smiled and related this story: Stop think for a moment about the hands you have, how they have served you well throughout your years. These hands, though wrinkled, shriveled and weak have been the tools I have used all my life to reach out and grab and embrace life. They braced and caught my fall when as a toddler I crashed upon the floor. They put food in my mouth and clothes on my back. As a child my mother taught me to fold them in prayer. They tied my shoes and pulled on my boots. They dried the tears of my children and caressed the love of my life. They held my rifle and wiped my tears when I went off to war. They have been dirty, scraped and raw, swollen and bent. They were uneasy and clumsy when I tried to hold my newborn son. Decorated with my wedding band they showed the world that I was married and loved someone special. They wrote the letters home and trembled and shook when I buried my parents and spouse and walked my daughter down the aisle. Yet, they were strong and sure when I dug my buddy out of a foxhole and lifted a plow off of my best friends foot. They have held children, consoled neighbors, and shook in fists of anger when I didn't understand. They have covered my face, combed my hair, and washed and cleansed the rest of my body. They have been sticky and wet, bent and broken, dried and raw. And to this day when not much of anything else of me works real well these hands hold me up, lay me down, and again continue to fold in prayer. These hands are the mark of where I've been and the ruggedness of my life. But more importantly it will be these hands that God will reach out and take when he leads me home. And He won't care about where these hands have been or what they have done. What He will care about is to whom these hands belong and how much He loves these hands. And with these hands He will lift me to His side and there I will use these hands to touch the face of Christ. === No doubt I will never look at my hands the same again. I never saw the old man again after I left the park that day but I will never forget him and the words he spoke. When my hands are hurt or sore or when I stroke the face of my children and wife I think of the man in the park. I have a feeling he has been stroked and caressed and held by the hands of God. I, too, want to touch the face of God and feel his hands upon my face. Thank you, Father God, for my hands. Author Unknown _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ~V get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet]caste ..........and all that
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I dont believe that is the way we approach a problem . rene vivian d!souza asks: why did the catholicism allow the caste system to continue ? elementary dear vivian, let the archbishop of goa reply to your question. antonio _ Seized by wanderlust? Have the best vacation ever. http://www.msn.co.in/Travel/ Team up with MSN Travel!
