[Goanet]Re: Goan books, writers, assumptions et al
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## In a message dated 11/5/2004 11:17:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JC response: Good for you that you do not know me. You at least know my name. Please afford us the courtesy of letting us know your full name . Unless, you are the only Victor in this world. In any event, As far as this discussion is concerned, you are the Victor. Dear Dr. Colaco, My full name has never been a secret, I am Victor Rangel-Ribeiro. A few people here and there know me as a writer and a novelist. Like several other Goan authors, I began my writing career as a journalist. Nothing special about that; others have trod that very same path. My screen name, as you can see, is vrangelrib. Easy to trace; easily recognizable---no subterfuge there. So I only use my full name when it is relevant or necessary, as for example, when literary matters are being discussed. Otherwise, since I have no doctorate to add dignity to my name, I merely sign myself as Victor, fully realizing---as you so rightly point out--- that I am not the only Victor in the world. Regards, Victor
[Goanet]Re: Goan books, writers, assumptions et al
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## wrt Samir's message, Samir is right. I am NOT going to parse my words with him even though I had written [BUT, I have YET to see ANY other Goan extend his Congratulations on this d-list.] However this is a response to Victor's posting. - Victor wrote: #1: Dr. Colaco's message that we all buy more books by Goan authors BEGAN with an attack on Goan authors who did not publicly congratulate Ben Antao on Goanet. JC response: GARBAGE! That is NOT how the message BEGAN please refer to Context. http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2004-November/020075.html == #2: I objected to it when he first made that attack and I object to it now. Private messages---including private messages of congratulation---DO NOT BELONG on Goanet. JC response: If GoaNet has any special EXCLUSIONARY guidelines for Congratulations, Admin please make them known. IF THAT IS THE POLICY should GoaNet also consider discontinuing the Birthday Greetings ? The other option is to impose selective Censorship on certaon people. == #3: I do not know Dr. Colaco, and have no animosity whatever towards him. JC response: Good for you that you do not know me. You at least know my name. Please afford us the courtesy of letting us know your full name . Unless, you are the only Victor in this world. In any event, As far as this discussion is concerned, you are the Victor. Congratulations and All the best. BTW: Victor has NOT responded to the assumptions bit. I assume he got the message Ite Missa Est. jose colaco _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/
[Goanet]Re: Goan books, writers, assumptions et al
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I fully agree with you; congrats need not be posted in public. Dr. Colaco's post however is also factually wrong, as I have posted congratualatory post to Ben Antao on Goanet. It can be looked up in the archives. regards, Samir Kelekar Dr. Colaco's message that we all buy more books by Goan authors began with an attack on Goan authors who did not publicly congratulate Ben Antao on Goanet. I objected to it when he first made that attack and I object to it now. Private messages---including private messages of congratulation---do not belong on Goanet. Personal attacks also do not belong on this forum. Some writers were attacked by name, in that same message that urged us to buy more books. I found that attack to be equally objectionable. My focus was on those parts of Dr. Colaco's message that I felt crossed the line. My focus was not on the messenger. I do not know Dr. Colaco, and have no animosity whatever towards him. Regards, Victor
Re: [Goanet]re: Goan Books, writers, assumptions et al
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dr. Colaco's message that we all buy more books by Goan authors began with an attack on Goan authors who did not publicly congratulate Ben Antao on Goanet. I objected to it when he first made that attack and I object to it now. Private messages---including private messages of congratulation---do not belong on Goanet. Personal attacks also do not belong on this forum. Some writers were attacked by name, in that same message that urged us to buy more books. I found that attack to be equally objectionable. My focus was on those parts of Dr. Colaco's message that I felt crossed the line. My focus was not on the messenger. I do not know Dr. Colaco, and have no animosity whatever towards him. Regards, Victor
[Goanet]re: Goan Books, writers, assumptions et al
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Victor wrote on Thu Nov 4 20:35:02 2004 Dr. J. Colaco assumes that other Goan writers in Canada and elsewhere have not congratulated Ben Antao, because they have not posted messages to this effect on Goanet... By presuming to make that a requirement, a number of my peers have been unjustly maligned. Ben Antao knows who wrote to him and who didn't. Nobody else is owed an explanation. === I'll say this very simply. Please do not make any assumptions about me, and PLEASE be quite clearly informed that Dr. J. Colaco has assumed NOTHING with regards to the topic at hand. I totally agree that the writer in question is the best person to know who wrote to him and who didn't. That does not necessarily mean that Dr. J. Colaco does not know. Trust me when I say that ! And yes, absolutely Nobody else is owed an explanation. Having said that, I strongly recommend that we pay attention MORE to the message than to the Messenger. My message like that of the good Gabriel de Figueiredo's is : Goans let us support our Goan writers by buying and reading more of their books. I would hasten to add : Goans, let us spend LESS time, energy and MONEY on Jamborees, Picnics, Dances, BBQs and Alcohol. and more on helping Goan thought and writing to flourish. Everything else, as far as I am concerned, is minutia. Nada Mas to add on this topic. I have said all that I know about it. jose PS: A book I will recommend today is AFTER MANY DAYS by Francisco Correia Afonso Early next month - Ema and I hope to post snippets on TGF ( Thank you Lino Leitao for making the suggestion; Thanks too Tony and Marina Correia-Afonso for sending the book across) good wishes jc please visit NEW on The Goan Forum at http://www.colaco.net Recommended Goa related sites 1. http://www.goa-world.com 2. http://www.SuperGoa.com _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/
