RE: [Goanet]Goan Catholics non twice-born Hindus

2005-02-02 Thread Cip Fernandes
It appeasrs somehow Karla did not get this posting - hence posted again. Karla, Interested to know the meaning of the following terms: 1) Bahujan Samaj 2) Bhandari Samaj And, what is the difference between the two? Is the former CM Monohar Parrikar belongs to Bahujan Samaj or

RE: [Goanet]Goan Catholics non twice-born Hindus

2005-02-01 Thread Cip Fernandes
Karla, Interested to know the meaning of the following terms: 1) Bahujan Samaj 2) Bhandari Samaj And, what is the difference between the two? Is the current CM Monohar Parrikar belongs to Bahujan Samaj or Bhandari Samaj or any other Samaj? Just curious! Cip Fernandes UK

[Goanet]Goan Catholics non twice-born Hindus

2005-01-31 Thread karla
The other day there was an unfortunate stampede at the shrine[ temple?] of Kalubai or Mandhara devi in Satara district of Maharashtra ,bordering Goa near Pernem. The NDTV news report stated that Kalubhai is not really a Hindu deity and that her worshippers are not hindus. [The are generally

Re: [Goanet]Goan Catholics non-twice-born Hindus

2005-01-30 Thread Venantius J Pinto
Got it. Thanks. venantius __ GL responds: I don't know how this discussion is related to the above title. It does not even apply to what is the custom in Goa? (Which I do not know!) However the courts in the case below are not addressing 'the child's future'. The courts are addressing: Can

[Goanet]Goan Catholics non-twice-born Hindus

2005-01-30 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
GL responds: I don't know how this discussion is related to the above title. It does not even apply to what is the custom in Goa? (Which I do not know!) However the courts in the case below are not addressing 'the child's future'. The courts are addressing: Can a child deemed an upper caste (and

Re: [Goanet]Goan Catholics non twice-born Hindus

2005-01-30 Thread cornel
Gilbert, I regret have fallen behind on keeping track of Goanet posts. However, I am sure others will have noted that we are discussing CASTE and not Class as per your post. There is a significant difference between the two. Regards, Cornel

[Goanet]Goan Catholics non twice-born Hindus

2005-01-29 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Goan Catholics non twice-born Hindus Re: Caste, Conversion ani Confusao Antonio Menezes ( January 27, 2005) I thought it would be safer to use instead the words ''non-twice-born'' to describe this overwhelming majority of social class before their conversion to Christianity. Sachin Phadte (Jan

[Goanet]Goan Catholics non twice-born Hindus

2005-01-28 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Goan Catholics non twice-born Hindus GL responds: Do I understand from this (below) that Goan Catholics were converts from non-twice born Hindus? Then, prior to their conversion they were 'sudras, outcastes and untouchables'? In other words, the Hindus changed their religion, their village of