RE: [Goanet]re: Eugene Correia, Aires Rodrigues, Goa Suraj ....... and the rest of us
What Merwyn says is precisely what I wanted to point out. Politicians or those in the public eye wear different masks. They have a public face, professional face and a private face. We know how some politicians have amassed wealth beyond their known means of income while they were in power. In public, these politicians say they are for people's welfare but deprive the state government and, by extension, the public of money through various scams or illegal ways. Many in Goa talk about Churchill's notoriety in whispers because many are scared of his muscle power. Haven't some journalists been victims of the wrath of some polticians? Newspaper reports said that one shopowner in Betalbatim is trying to charge Minister Mickky Pacheco of using some people to break down or burn his shack or restaurant but the police are not registering a case against him. Do I say more? I have seen Goa firsthand and frankly, despite the strides made in some sectors, I fear it is turning into another UP or Bihar. The rot has to stop, and the rot has begun to seep through from the top. I must say that, like some politicians, I found Aires sleazy and unscrupulous in my interaction with him in Toronto. To Aires and his many supporters, I say sorry if this is the impression that remains with me till this day. One thing I must admit, Aires has the ability to gather some loyal supporters. I found it at a small get-together he organized for Fr. Planton Faria who was visiting me in Toronto. He collected few friends within a day's or two days'notice. Truth to tell, Fr. Faria told me that I shouldn't have mentioned his arrival in Toronto to Aires. But it slipped from my lips when Aires called me. He would often call me for no particular reason which I found strange. I believe he also gathered many Goans in UK as his cheerleaders. So, it's no suprise that he was given a big farewell purse. Or maybe it was to say thank you for his efforts in getting the Indian government to let the NRIs fly on chartered planes. His ability to be at the forefront or to be in a position of influence and command was perhaps the quality that made him a student leader. It's the job of journalists to see through the hypocrisy in people who lead public lives. The Western media peers into politicians' personal lives to give an all-round profile of those seeking public offices. The Goan Observer is doing such a job, though it uses language that is crude and which belongs to the gutter press. This issue has got enough play and I frankly wish to put an end to it. To Aries, more strength to his elbow in fighting causes which he thinks are worthy and which he thinks may benefit the Goan people at large. Eugene Correia --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally, what is counted in our life - what we do for others and NOT what we do for ourselves . Cip, If I am not mistaken, this is the same Aires who posted a message on Goanet saying that he is going to wear a helmet while fighting for the rights of others not to wear helmets Mervyn2.0 __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]re: Eugene Correia, Aires Rodrigues, Goa Suraj ....... and the rest of us
C Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally, what is counted in our life - what we do for others and NOT what we do for ourselves . Cip, If I am not mistaken, this is the same Aires who posted a message on Goanet saying that he is going to wear a helmet while fighting for the rights of others not to wear helmets Mervyn2.0 __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]re: Eugene Correia, Aires Rodrigues, Goa Suraj ....... and the rest of us
Few years back when Aires was in UK, I visited Goa. And, happen to meet few senior Goan politicians, they remarked that they need people like Aires Rodrigues in Goa. And, one thing is sure, Aires did NOT leave UK for any problems. Aires, on his own got permission from Government of India for Indians could fly on charter flights to Goa along with their non-Indian partners' passport from UK. He has returned to Goa for his love for our Mother land Goa and people of Goa. I do not know that any Goan in UK got a public farewell party like Aires did. The farewell collection we had handed over to him, I believe he has donated that money to Goa Red Cross. Aires knows his role very well in Goa. We may have difficulties in understanding Aires and his role. However, his goal is clear i.e. to serve people of Goa unconditionally, of course, starting from Ribandar. He plays his role for dynamic problems of Goa and society. Most overseas Goanetters may not understand the dynamic problems of Goa . His role definitely makes a difference in Goa, socially and politically. We should not forget that whoever fights for social or political justice has opponents and Aires is not exception. Many may think that they are so called enemies of Aries but NO ONE is enemy to Aires. He may have temporary opponent for temporary issue. Perhaps, these are the reasons for his exceptional courage to fight for injustice with ease. Finally, what is counted in our life - what we do for others and NOT what we do for ourselves . Cip Fernandes UK _ Valmiki Faleiro wrote 11 April 2004 06:17 Dear Eugene, You know I have regards for your forthright style of writing. But don't you feel such statements are best avoided? There certainly IS a difference between *professional* and *public* life? Have a joyous day, Valmiki ___ From: Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 10:38 PM One thing for sure, he ran away from Toronto, Canada. As a journalist, I have made few enquires about his professional life in Toronto. His insurance clients are looking out for him, to say the least. I am not sure why he left England. Eugene Correia ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]re: Eugene Correia, Aires Rodrigues, Goa Suraj ....... and the rest of us
Dear Valmiki, I know it was bit harsh, but then I to show that Aires could have gone to Goa for other reasons than to get involved in public life. You will be surprised to know what he did in Toronto. He was tried to discredit me when I wrote a small item on Churchill Alemao in the Goan Overseas Association's newsletter after Churchill visited Toronto. I didn't write anything derogatory, but Aires instigate Churchill. The strongman told some people that he would show me in Goa. In 1994 when I came to Goa I met him at the football ground and then during my recent visit I met him twice at the Fatorda stadium when I went to watch matches, including one which featured his team. The point is that someone who shows himself as a fighter for causes has caused lot of pain to his clients. They hate him so much that if he lands in Toronto these people are going to get him. How can you fight public causes when one cannot take care for the welfare of one's clients? When he was seeking a bride in England, I was approached by someone related to a girl who Aires was interested in marrying. I gave my impressions of the man and till today they thank me. I clearly told them that I have no great regards for Aires who seemed to have portrayed himself as a big gun in Goan politics. He had invited Dr. Willy de Souza and some other Goan politicians to his house-warming party when he moved or bought an apartment in London. There is more to Aires than his public profile. I also wanted to show the dearth of good political analysts in Goa. Seriously, why don't you write political commentary as you are well qualified with your newspaper experience? Best regards, Eugene __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]re: Eugene Correia, Aires Rodrigues, Goa Suraj ....... and the rest of us
Dear Eugene, You know I have regards for your forthright style of writing. But don't you feel such statements are best avoided? There certainly IS a difference between *professional* and *public* life? Have a joyous day, Valmiki From: Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 10:38 PM One thing for sure, he ran away from Toronto, Canada. As a journalist, I have made few enquires about his professional life in Toronto. His insurance clients are looking out for him, to say the least. I am not sure why he left England. Eugene Correia ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]re: Eugene Correia, Aires Rodrigues, Goa Suraj ....... and the rest of us
Dear Gabe, Aires Rodrigues is in the trenches - neither Eugene, you nor I. are. Aires made a firm commitment to Goa and returned home for good..we haven't. Aires has chosen to be a social activist and, hence, he needs to be involved in issues affecting the Goan people. If that means he is in the trenches, than there are so many others who like Aires are waging a war from these trenches. Did Aires really return to Goa to improve the lot of Goans? One thing for sure, he ran away from Toronto, Canada. As a journalist, I have made few enquires about his professional life in Toronto. His insurance clients are looking out for him, to say the least. I am not sure why he left England. But I assume he went to Goa to make his voice heard, for after all he was a student leader and the label is handy if one wants to play a role in public affairs. Aires couldn't do much from either Toronto or in London to be in the Goan limelight. Maybe he could write lead articles or letters to editor, which he does besides making physical presence at some events. In India, politicians hang on for years. Take Goa for example and you will find Dr. Willy still wading through political waters. Like a soldier, Willy propbably wants to die with his political boots on. Aires came to Goa and completed his law degree. Lawyers are a different class in Goa. Lawyers earn added respect and politics is a good ground from lawyers to enter besides the courts. Ajit Singh kicked out a high-paying IBM job in the USA to take over the political mantle from his father, Charan Singh. I doubt if Aires earned the same money abroad as Ajit did. To Ajit, his was a political decision to return to India and get involved in active politics. In Toronto, Aires was a nobody even though word spread he was Goa's student leader. Nobody cared. I am not sure of London where, I am told, he kept a low-profile. It's only in Goa that Aires waxes and wanes. In fact, the day Aires wrote the piece in Herald I was visiting a priest and then both the priest and I went to see another person who owns trawlers. It was the priest who told me that Aires has written the leader in the Herald. The priest's friend claimed to know Aires and from his talk I could make out that he didn't have any great rewards for Aires. So, let me remind the doctor from Nassau that the reason for Aires to come to Goa could not ONLY be for improving Goa's social and political structure but could be for other reasons. Goa has been Aires's playground and he likes to play ball, as they say in North America, with politicians and bureaucrats. For him, like for many, it's an exercise they enjoy doing. Eugene Correia BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE ...and I invite Aires to contradict me if I am wrong. Aires is ON RECORD supporting the BJP and .he personally advised me of his canvassing for the BJP ( Angle ) in South Goa. circa 2000. This does NOT make Aires a bad person - he made his choices from a distance ( my guess: with a little help from Chandrakant Keni when the latter visited the UK in 1999/00) - but learnt the realities when he returned home. All of us make errors. Besides, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Let's credit Aires for having Come, Seen Understood ..and changed course. Eugene Correia's barb at Aires is quite unfair. Aires could have made handsome poixe by going along with turmeric . But.unlike the Goa business folks .he chose to follow his conscience. Mr. Correia's points about Goa Suraj are surprisingly similar to Fred Noronha's expressed (to me) views. And I disagree with the bottom line of that view point. Goa Suraj may NOT win a single seat ever - BUT never write-off the work Goa Suraj ( and Goa Foundation) has done. Activist organizations have been crucial in blocking successive Goa governments from ripping the place up even more. They have been watchdogs - in the presence (or is it absence) of the wishy washy Goa press. my view jc _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] #
[Goanet]re: Eugene Correia, Aires Rodrigues, Goa Suraj ....... and the rest of us
Eugene Correia wrote:- He attacks the BJP as communal and fundamentalist, a party which, I am told, Aires supported initially. What brought his change of heart is unknown to me. Gabe wrote:- I believe Aires has denied this charge and Minguel Braganza, not so long ago had to take back a similar attack, which Aires did parry. An apology was then given. So far nobody has come back, to categorically state tha Aires was a one time BJP fiddle player. Dear Gabe, Aires Rodrigues is in the trenches - neither Eugene, you nor I. are. Aires made a firm commitment to Goa and returned home for good..we haven't. BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE ...and I invite Aires to contradict me if I am wrong. Aires is ON RECORD supporting the BJP and .he personally advised me of his canvassing for the BJP ( Angle ) in South Goa. circa 2000. This does NOT make Aires a bad person - he made his choices from a distance ( my guess: with a little help from Chandrakant Keni when the latter visited the UK in 1999/00) - but learnt the realities when he returned home. All of us make errors. Besides, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Let's credit Aires for having Come, Seen Understood ..and changed course. Eugene Correia's barb at Aires is quite unfair. Aires could have made handsome poixe by going along with turmeric . But.unlike the Goa business folks .he chose to follow his conscience. Mr. Correia's points about Goa Suraj are surprisingly similar to Fred Noronha's expressed (to me) views. And I disagree with the bottom line of that view point. Goa Suraj may NOT win a single seat ever - BUT never write-off the work Goa Suraj ( and Goa Foundation) has done. Activist organizations have been crucial in blocking successive Goa governments from ripping the place up even more. They have been watchdogs - in the presence (or is it absence) of the wishy washy Goa press. my view jc _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
