[Goanet] GHANTII

2008-09-05 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 12:41:30 -0400 From: MD\Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since Mario Goveia is the only point of contact and has declared has ancestry, may I caution Mario not to visit his family in the zoo or try to befriend them by feeding them peanuts while they at at it. They have the keen

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2008-09-02 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:12:03 -0400 From: oscar lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is all history now and the most important thing the Portuguese did for Goa is to save the race of Goans and whatever they built in Goa helped India to showcase tourism and help the politicians after 1961 to reap the

[Goanet] GHANTII

2008-09-02 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:22:49 +0530 From: U P Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] I find Manglorean Catholic girls and women quite attractive, whereas I find Goan catholics distinctively ugly in general. I feel It is due to 450 years of Portuguese slavery. Now one may be politically correct and accuse me

[Goanet] GHANTII

2008-09-02 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:35:28 +0530 From: U P Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not religious, unlike you, so the slur about ape passes me by. Mario writes: Mr. Kamath may have misunderstood whom the slur was against:-)) There is another side to this. I just got a phone call from the local zoo.

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2008-09-01 Thread Carvalho
--- On Sun, 8/31/08, U P Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not religious, unlike you, so the slur about ape passes me by. --- The slur is in your own mind. The only point I was trying to make is that there is no DNA difference between two human beings

[Goanet] GHANTII

2008-09-01 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Mello   I think you mis-read my post. Please read it again. Yet I am glad my post led you to write an excellent review of early Portuguese history in Goa. Surely Mangloreans are a Goan diaspora; contrary to what Kamath would have us believe. Regards, GL   -- MD\Mello, I was in

[Goanet] GHANTII

2008-08-31 Thread U P Kamath
I had many remarks from many Goan I will try to answer some. First as the debate borders on racism and religion, I should first state what I am in the eyes of those who judge by birth: I am a Canara Hindu GSB, so I trace my ancestry to Goa. I am an agnostic. One is free to comment on my bias, for

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2008-08-31 Thread Carvalho
--- On Sat, 8/30/08, U P Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is also survival of fittest in evolution. I was pointing this had negative effect on the racial stock of Goa, due to oppressive slavery of the Portuguese - free spirited people could not survive their oppression - they

[Goanet] GHANTII

2008-08-31 Thread U P Kamath
I am not religious, unlike you, so the slur about ape passes me by. As I do not see much genetic distance from me to the ape. As for the Jamaican, the genetic distance between two extreme branch of humans - with a head count of over 6 billion is much less than between two extreme individuals of

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2008-08-30 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:35:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel de Figueiredo I am not here to give you a history lesson, but please do yourselves a favour and get your facts right. Mario observes: Gabriel, Far from giving us a history lesson, you are revising history while looking at it through

[Goanet] GHANTII

2008-08-30 Thread Venantius Pinto
of enslavement as has been seen often in modernity. Again, splendid points UP. venantius j pinto From: U P Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] GHANTII I find Manglorean Catholic girls and women quite attractive, whereas I find Goan catholics distinctively ugly

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2008-08-30 Thread jane gillian rodrigues
WHO HAS MORE FREEDOM Regards === Message: 11 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:22:49 +0530 From: U P Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] GHANTII To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

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2008-08-30 Thread Carvalho
U P Kamath wrote: I find Manglorean Catholic girls and women quite attractive, whereas I find Goan catholics distinctively ugly in general. I feel It is due to 450 years of Portuguese slavery. Now one may be politically correct and accuse me of bias. But I feel the Mangalorean catholics

[Goanet] GHANTII

2008-08-30 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
To begin with, I wish we ended the title of this thread as it is no longer and in no way connected to the contents of the posts. In keeping with my other series of posts, that I am writing, with all due respects to Kamath, I have to repeat the by-line You told us the fiction, now lets see the

[Goanet] GHANTII

2008-08-30 Thread marshallmendonza
U P Kamath wrote: It is true that Goa was crime free during Portuguese rule.But racism under them was much more severe than the British! The state was much more oppressive. Comment: Whether racism was more or less severe than the British, only someone who has made a comparative study can

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2008-08-30 Thread Rishi
UP, What does beauty have to do with religion or colonial rule ? Mangalorean girls generally look beautiful both catholic and hindus. e.g is Aishwarya Rai, Shilpa Shetty, Genelia D'Souza and Rita Lobo (from a well known Konkani movie) This might be a genetic thing and has nothing to do with

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2008-08-30 Thread Alfred de Tavares
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:17:45 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] GHANTII - BEAUTIFUL AND CONSTITUTIONALLY FREE GOANS Dear goanetters and U.P. Kamath, A very famous sayingBeauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Your statement

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2008-08-29 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
Sure, Mario (and Cornel and others), I will keep on harping on the good side of sossegado life. After all, life today in Portugal is still sossegado compared to the rat race of the rest of Europe. Why did I come to Australia? Oh! before I came to Australia, I lived in London. Why didn't I go

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2008-08-29 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Gabriel Nice to hear from you after a seemingly long absence. I am however rather bemused by your long list of Portuguese contributions over 451 years in Goa but regret to say that they were of negligible help to Goa economically and in terms of developing a modern infrastructure. Had they

[Goanet] GHANTII

2008-08-29 Thread U P Kamath
Dear Gabriel, It is true that Goa was crime free during Portuguese rule. But racism under them was much more severe than the British! The state was much more oppressive. I find that centuries of Portuguese repression, or rather slavery, should i list:

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2008-08-28 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
de souza-Goswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ana Maria de souza-Goswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] GHANTII To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Received: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008, 12:42 AM Hi Dominic, There was no electricity in the villages, no running water, wait endless for public

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2008-08-28 Thread Mario Goveia
Ana Maria wrote: Goans, do not criticise what the Indians and fellow Goans have done to Goa, but criticise what the Portuguese did not do for Goa. Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:21:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel de Figueiredo Electricity. Water. Phones. They would have come to the villages in