In Anjuna, traditionally, neighbors in each ward get together on
the evening of June 23 and celebrate JUDEV. They
prepare a pile of dry hay in front of each house, set it on fire
and when it burns completely, they sing the line:
SAM JUANV SANGOLL, KURPECHO DONGOR, JUDEVACHO GOBOR!
JoeGoaUk wrote:
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Well, our Mhar tradition has nothing to do with Mahar (Bamboo cane
weavers) or Cobbler for that matter. Btw, Cobbler is Chamar both being
ST/SC community of Goa.
I used Mhar because if just used mar it would mean to beat or kill
Our mhar was an effigy (stuffed with straw)
Subject: Tradition of Mhar or Zudev celebration on 23rd June every year.
Thanks to many for participation in this discussion, some of the posts I only
read today.
Well, our Mhar tradition has nothing to do with ‘Mahar’ (Bamboo cane weavers)
or Cobbler for that matter. Btw, Cobbler is
Kill the Jew is part of the historical anti Jewish tirade of
Christianity. The practice was observed in Goa on 23rd of June, i.e. on the
eve of the Feast of St.John the Baptist. The date is significant and
relates to the imprisonment and beheading of St.John the Baptist by King
Herod of the Jews.
Dear Radharao,
Very interesting. Would you know whether or not this ritual was brought on
from the time of the Inquisition. Or originated perhaps by an over zealous
prelate/ a zealot. Is Judeo/v also also employed to disambiguate (at least
in the past) to suggest something else.
: ) And yet Goan
From: radharao gracias
Kill the Jew is part of the historical anti Jewish tirade of Christianity.
The practice was observed in Goa on 23rd of June, i.e. on the eve of the
Feast of St. John the Baptist.
Response:
Headline: India cancels 'antisemitic' festival
Source: The Jerusalem Post. 12 July
Amgem mhar Dabolecho
Tumgem mhar Mopacho
Ku re ku
From: radharao gracias graciasradha...@gmail.com
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Tradition of Mhar or Zudev
The strong possibility to consider is that fallen apostle Judas Iscariot
(Jud), who was a Jew (Judeo Dhormacho). Jude, Judah, Judas all come from
the same root). Now if Mar Judeo came before the Inquisition in
Goa (1560/61-1774) then in all probability the ritual Mar Judev(o) got
compounded with
Some one from my place just reminded me this
Atta-kitti zata
Petti chavi katta
Amkam kitem potta
Ku ku ku
From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk
To: goa...@goanet.org goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Friday, 31 May 2013 7:02 AM
Subject: [GOAN-NRI] Tradition of Mhar or
Kill the Jew ! The practice is banned. Israel had
issued a formal protest to the Foreign Ministry several
years ago. The government in Goa then responded. eric.
On the 23rd June every year, a day before Sao Joao, we also celebrated 'mhar'
or 'zudev', an old man made up of straw
Eric, I think there is an inadvertant miss' infra, as our jc would say...
Should'nt it rather be 'mar'.
'Mhar' is a cobbler or bamboo-worker by profession which, lamentably,
places the group as untouchable---casteless;
Whereas, 'mar' is (to) kill; 'mar zudev/zudev mar' thus rendering it as
Alfred de Tavares alfredtava...@hotmail.com asked Eric
'Should'nt it rather be 'mar'.?
RESPONSE:
Dear Chacha,
The revisionistic inclusion of the H in words (Hanv) and names ( Mhapsa) by
recent Goemcars (or is it Ghoykers?) notwithstanding, IF the intent was to
denote the term Cobbler, then
On the 23rd June every year, a day before Sao Joao, we also celebrated 'mhar'
or 'zudev', an old man made up of straw (with pant, shirt, shoes, hat etc)
sitted on a chair, we carried him house to house where we used these pidde to
hit or strike the ground saying 'Mhar re, Zud re, ku, ku, ku'.
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