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Hi Merwyn and Sylvano,

Thanks for your messages. Apparently you both have set fine examples of 
career success for others to emulate - not taken the path of least 
resistance like many of our fellow AVCkars have done like joining the ships 
for a seafaring career after High School or BSc (like your Gao Bhau Joel 
Moraes) and then complaining about it. Although no one can play with a 
Doctorate degree in Engineering and an IIT career, I did play top level 
hockey in India and in the US, inspite of an IIT career. We have had may 
distinguished intellectuals/sportsmen in AVC and a proud history. If we 
widely promote careers in Engineering, Science and Medicine in AVC and Goa 
(as I plan to do in Dec when I am there), many more AVC-kars and Goenkars 
will be able to carve exemplary career sucesses for themselves. It is an 
awareness issue that we have to get over.
Do you know of other AVCkars - who graduated from IIT ? Why or why not ?
My former roomate in Austin, Tx was Tony Coutinho (ex Milleamvaddo, Cuncolim 
and Pune), a very good hockey player who graduated with a B.Tech in EE from 
IIT Bombay in 1980 and got Master's degree in Electrical Engineering from 
the University of Texas at Austin. When I represented Bombay in the Jr. 
Nationals Hockey Tournament in 1975, there were three of us AVC-kars on the 
Team : Myself from Baga (Velim), Fullback Leslie Correa (also from Baga 
Velim, now resident in N.J.) and Ivan D'Silva (from Velim). You may note 
that Ivan's dad Dr. Melchisto D'Silva was a medical doctor from Velim and a 
prominent Bombay university athlete in his college days.  We have also had 
my cousin international hockey goalkeeper John Correa who had completed his 
MA and was a bank manager in Central Bank from Velim and Dr. Vece Paes of 
(Velim/Assolna) who was a medical doctor and represented India as a 
center-half in field hockey. Of course everyone has heard of Vece's son 
Leander Paes and his tennis career. Just a few months ago I was in Chicago, 
and I met Dr. Avertano Noronha of Assolna a world famous neurologist based 
in Chicago who was a prominent hockey goalkeeper during his college days in 
Punjab. We have also had two more international hockey goalies from Velim - 
Ivor Colaco (Kenya, East Africa) and Jerome Caeiro (ex Reserve Bank, 
rpresented India in late 1960s). Salvito D'Cruz of Baga was an executive in 
Tatas and played top level soccer for Tatas in the seventies.These are just 
a few examples of our prominent AVCkars who slogged it out on the sports 
fields and in the classrooms against all adversity and reached the pinnacle 
of their careers. I believe they were all not underinformed of career 
opportunities,(they did not take the path sof least resistance like joining 
the ships for a seafaring career after High School or BSc) and then complain 
and blame others about the consequences of a wrong career choice and deter 
other AVCkars from pursuing promising careers in science and business. That 
has got to stop - because incompetence (as is exemplified by hopeless, 
perrennial complaints, ill-worded emails, etc - I am sure happy that Joel 
has listened to my suggestions and is having his emails proof-read these 
days) will breed more incompetence and will have an adverse effect on or 
beloved AVC !
That is why my advice to Joel and all prospective AVC-kar and Goenkar 
students is to avoid having any one to play with you career is to avoid the 
path of least resistance - pursue the path of persistance towards  Masters 
and Doctorate degrees in professional fields (engineering, science, 
medicine, business administration, etc) and no one will ever be able to play 
with your careers. Please let me know of other prominent AVCkars that you 
know of.
Best Regards,
Dr. Carmo D'Cruz,
Proud Velkar,
Now, Indian Harbour Beach, Florida.








Subject:  RE: Joel Moraes' Predicament - No Pity Here !
Date:  Fri, 1 Sep 2006 09:40:36 +0100 (BST)


Carmo,
Joel always wanted to serve the police force in Goa. I know him since 
college days. He had the necessary qualifications and dedication to be one, 
but political interventions and money power come in the way of many such 
dedicated individuals. Sitting there in US im sure u do not have a clue of 
how deserving candidates are puhed into oblivion by the chamchas of our 
political prostitutes. Many incompetent people are sitting in chairs much 
bigger their size since they had enough money to buy them. This is the 
reality which many of our people back home have to face. Joel is just one of 
them and I agree with his statement"How people dare to make their own career 
by playing with somebody's else's career.That's the real way to live life in 
todays world."
Congrats on being an IITian. I understand you belong to a different league 
altogether, but do not discourage people at other
levels.

Mervs

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Carmo,

In my opinion, you don't have to be highly qualified the way you are 
describing,  to do well in life. I got my MS in Chem (Goa) and I'm doing 
well (I don't know about you) and I'm in Detroit area. What Joel is aspiring 
to be, one doesn't have to be IIT engineer or posses doctorate degree. I am 
not just saying this because I hail from Cuncolim. If you have a doctorate 
perhaps an engineering degree from the IITs, you are already at a very 
different (high) level, you are in an elite group. Lets not discourage our 
people back home.

Joel:  Never give up, keep trying.

Sylvano

>CARMO DCRUZ  wrote:   Joel,
>
>I am a Velkar - that's what the people of Velim have been called for the 
>past few centuries(not ex-Vellekar, etc). I dont care if you are a NIZ (NIS 
>+ PEZ = NIZ ? in this case) Cuncollekar or not - whatever the case you do 
>not have my pity for your predicament. You have yourself to blame for your 
>career predicament - as a result of taking the path of least resistance and 
>becoming an under-educated tarvotti !
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Dr. Carmo D'Cruz,
>Goan, IITian
>Proud Velkar
>Now, Indian Harbour Beach, Florida.
>
>


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