> --- Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > > > If you call Buddhist and Jains as atheists, then > > we definitely have a semantic problem. > > Mario adds: > Gilbert, Santosh is correct. Buddhists and Jains are atheist organizations, but they have all the essential moral features of a theistic religion. So, naturally the wiley, religion-bashing Santosh uses these liberally as a red herring to deflect attention from most individual atheists who are unorganized and have not signed on to any organized and publicly stated moral code. > Buddhists and Jains have nothing in common with the five or six Goan unorganized individual atheists that appear on Goanet, some of whom are just curious, while the others are openly hostile towards religion and those who are religious. > I have no problems with someone making an unequivocal moral equivalence between Buddhists and Jains and the major religions and the standards they impose on their membership. I do have a problem with someone making an unconditional moral equivalence between these and unorganized individual atheists, many of whom may be of upstanding moral character but because there are no external checks and balances no one has any idea what's going on unless they get arrested. >
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