Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English : Why can't we all just get along?
I was not expecting any semblance of even-handedness or consistency from Noronha about his newly minted situational rule about not addressing Goanet members who are not contributing to Goanet in their official capacity as Doc, Prof, Fr., etc. From long experience on Goanet and other Goan internet forums administered by him I know that the rules he makes do not apply to himself. Or perhaps, the rule applies only for the title of Admin. But for the first time after repeatedly asking this question for years I have an admission from him that he is indeed a Goanet Admin. That is good enough for me. Now as to how an Admin participating in a passionate debate that he is in a position to moderate in a moderated forum by blocking certain posts and allowing others, to say nothing about having the privilege of fast tracking his own posts, can change hats from being an Admin to a simple lowly member of the forum, I have no earthly idea. Cheers, Santosh - Original Message - From: Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English : Why can't we all just get along? This is getting both boring and childish. (i) I have a name, so please use it, if you wish. (ii) As I see it, I do not need either honorifics or patronisingly-bestowed prefixes or suffixes to my name. JC has also been using the word patracar in a similar vein. (iii) When I take part in Goanet debates, I'm not doing so in my role as a member of the Goanet Admin Team. If any of us speaks out on behalf of the Admin Team, we specifically sign the outgoing mail as such. So why attempt to confuse the roles? (iv) On 2011/9/27, I had written to you via another network My first name is not 'Admin'. FN --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English : Why can't we all just get along?
This is getting both boring and childish. (i) I have a name, so please use it, if you wish. (ii) As I see it, I do not need either honorifics or patronisingly-bestowed prefixes or suffixes to my name. JC has also been using the word patracar in a similar vein. (iii) When I take part in Goanet debates, I'm not doing so in my role as a member of the Goanet Admin Team. If any of us speaks out on behalf of the Admin Team, we specifically sign the outgoing mail as such. So why attempt to confuse the roles? (iv) On 2011/9/27, I had written to you via another network My first name is not 'Admin'. FN On 3 December 2011 21:46, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks E. D'Sousa for this suggestion. Henceforth, I will call him Goanet Administrator, if he does not mind. Cheers, Santosh --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English : Why can't we all just get along?
On 3 December 2011 16:16, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks E. D'Sousa for this suggestion. Henceforth, I will call him Goanet Administrator, if he does not mind. Cheers, Santosh P.S. I noticed that Mr. Gabe Menezes has used a foul and abusive word to refer to Jose Colaco and me in the following quote: QUOTE We could proceed to Abbreviations and sounds i.e. Shent Rocket Man - where do we draw the line? Oh! yes all very honorific Most of us may not be as monetarily and career successful as Pedia and Shent; we don't need condescending and patronising behaviour okay? UNQUOTE Mr. Gabe Menezes Do you think using such foul language against a Goanet member would be considered equivalent to addressing a Goanet Administrator as Goanet Administrator, as Mr. Menezes implies? RESPONSE: A cry baby rant, looking in vain, for support - tried a pathetic attempt to draw Dr. Colaco into this. Called in his side kick Goveia to bolster - such a forlorn figure. Poor understanding of English, equating born into a non English speaking family, not being a native speaker, to be the same as was were you born retarded! ( which the man implied to me) Now trying damage control; man, you have lost it. If you don't mind, may I call you Shake, Rattle and Rocket man? Incidentally, am I the only person who has had a problem with your pompous behaviour? Those that have had a problem, are stupid and you are ah, so smart? For the record I do not have any problems with Hindus; my tenants (Hindus) and us treat each other as family -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English : Why can't we all just get along?
, Gabe Menezes wrote thus to/about Santoshbab: A cry baby rant, looking in vain, for support - tried a pathetic attempt to draw Dr. Colaco into this. Called in his side kick Goveia to bolster - such a forlorn figure. Dear Gabe, I thought you would have learned your lesson by now. But here it is: Please do not understand my silence at your use of FOUL words as supporting your lack of basic decency in public discourse. I have already stated my position very clearly that : I don't mind... what anyone calls me. Just in case you were not familiar with simple English, I even wrote in Konkani Tuka Inglez somzona re?. Just for your education: I absolutely respect Santoshbab's education, work and basic sense of decency. If any one has even an iota of envy about his achievements, I suggest that the envious person have a nice hot bath. And yes .this (based on your lie) is still on the table: please direct me to an audio recording or to a post wherein ' the man has told Santoshbab that he should not be addressed as admin Noronha'. I noted that you had weasled out of it with a wimpish apology . only to return with the same nonsense a few days later. Time to stop this nonsense, guy. Stick to the excellent music you direct us to or even your incessant whining about UK-GOA politricks.about which, you may have a point. jc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] To add to the debate on English : Why can't we all just get along?
Dr. Helekar writes: I know that Admin is not your first name. But are you not a Goanet Admin? If so, do you mind if I continue to call you Admin Noronha especially on Goanet? Comment: Perhaps you could at least, if you must, make it Goanet Administrator. Sounds more respectable. E. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMmC0UAnj0 --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] To add to the debate on English : Why can't we all just get along?
Thanks E. D'Sousa for this suggestion. Henceforth, I will call him Goanet Administrator, if he does not mind. Cheers, Santosh P.S. I noticed that Mr. Gabe Menezes has used a foul and abusive word to refer to Jose Colaco and me in the following quote: QUOTE We could proceed to Abbreviations and sounds i.e. Shent Rocket Man - where do we draw the line? Oh! yes all very honorific Most of us may not be as monetarily and career successful as Pedia and Shent; we don't need condescending and patronising behaviour okay? UNQUOTE Mr. Gabe Menezes Do you think using such foul language against a Goanet member would be considered equivalent to addressing a Goanet Administrator as Goanet Administrator, as Mr. Menezes implies? From: E DeSousa ejd...@att.net Dr. Helekar writes: I know that Admin is not your first name. But are you not a Goanet Admin? If so, do you mind if I continue to call you Admin Noronha especially on Goanet? Comment: Perhaps you could at least, if you must, make it Goanet Administrator. Sounds more respectable. E. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
