RE: [Goanet] Fw: TIMOR LESTE
Nasci, the world knows who is utterly wrong! Australia has been stealing oil from East Timor since 1975. There are thousands of documents describing this. There are UN resolutions and an International Court of Law rulling against Australia illegal exploration of East TImor oil. Australia has signed illegal treaties with Indonesia and has gone as far as betraying East Timor people by being the only country in the world to recognise East Timor's integration into Indonesia. All this for the benefit of the oil of East Timor. All this against International Law. You can make others fool but Goanetters are smarter than that. Australia has been behaving desgracefully since 1975. Shame on them and shame on you for defending them. This has nothing to do with Portugal. I repeat, I will not be surprised if Australia is found to be sponsoring these terrorists in East TImor, simply to bring the East Timor Government down and to prove them not strong enough to self govern themselves. We will see wha happens in the next few days. Then we will talk. Best regards Paulo Colaco Dias. From: Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Subject: RE: [Goanet] Fw: TIMOR LESTE Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 13:48:26 +1000 (EST) --- Paulo Colaco Dias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nasci, shame on you. I know it is easy to get fooled so I do not blame you. It does not take a brain surgeon to see what Australia has been doing in East Timor since 1975. If anything, they are true opportunists and they have done everything to steal from East Timor since the Indonesian invasion. Nasci responds: I have only given the news of the day! Why are you so perturbed; There is 'nothing' in East Timor that Australia would need to 'steal'. How utterly wrong, you are! Australia is putting its foot forward because Portugal does not have the resources or the skills to come to the aid of their ex colony; as also to keep other powers like China and or Japan away from the region and away from Australia's doorstep. There is nothing wrong with that! This is sound 'statergy' in the interest of the Australian Nation, and the world at large. Paulo Colaco wrote: Do you know who the UN chose to guarantee the security of its own United Nations Special Envoy - Mr. Sukehiro Hasegawa ? Well, they chose the Portuguese force. This has been made public yesterday 28th May. The UN did not choose the Australian force (who has deployed more than 1300 men). They chose the Portuguese force instead!!! Don't you find that strange? Why is that really? Nasci Replies: It is good, if the UN has chosen Portugal to 'secure' their Envoy; less of a burden for Australia. The Portuguese forces were incompetent to help Timorese in any way at the time of the Indon occupation of free East Timor! How gullible can you be??? How big or competent is this 'force'? Ultimately Aussie and other forces from NZ and Malaysia will be doing the 'hard and dirty work'. You have missed the main cause of this new conflict; that the East Tomorese groups 'Easterners and Westerners' are vying and killing each other for the spoils of office and the spoils to come with the developement of the Oil and Gas fields; instead of sharing, they want to take all of it; the leaders are duping their own people into these type of deliberate misunderstanding. They are not 'used' to resolving their disputes in a 'democrative way', hence resort to 'machetes'. That's the way I see the 'situ' in East Timor. Nasci Caldeira Melbourne. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
RE: [Goanet] Fw: TIMOR LESTE
--- Paulo Colaco Dias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nasci, shame on you. I know it is easy to get fooled so I do not blame you. It does not take a brain surgeon to see what Australia has been doing in East Timor since 1975. If anything, they are true opportunists and they have done everything to steal from East Timor since the Indonesian invasion. Nasci responds: I have only given the news of the day! Why are you so perturbed; There is 'nothing' in East Timor that Australia would need to 'steal'. How utterly wrong, you are! Australia is putting its foot forward because Portugal does not have the resources or the skills to come to the aid of their ex colony; as also to keep other powers like China and or Japan away from the region and away from Australia's doorstep. There is nothing wrong with that! This is sound 'statergy' in the interest of the Australian Nation, and the world at large. Paulo Colaco wrote: Do you know who the UN chose to guarantee the security of its own United Nations Special Envoy - Mr. Sukehiro Hasegawa ? Well, they chose the Portuguese force. This has been made public yesterday 28th May. The UN did not choose the Australian force (who has deployed more than 1300 men). They chose the Portuguese force instead!!! Don't you find that strange? Why is that really? Nasci Replies: It is good, if the UN has chosen Portugal to 'secure' their Envoy; less of a burden for Australia. The Portuguese forces were incompetent to help Timorese in any way at the time of the Indon occupation of free East Timor! How gullible can you be??? How big or competent is this 'force'? Ultimately Aussie and other forces from NZ and Malaysia will be doing the 'hard and dirty work'. You have missed the main cause of this new conflict; that the East Tomorese groups 'Easterners and Westerners' are vying and killing each other for the spoils of office and the spoils to come with the developement of the Oil and Gas fields; instead of sharing, they want to take all of it; the leaders are duping their own people into these type of deliberate misunderstanding. They are not 'used' to resolving their disputes in a 'democrative way', hence resort to 'machetes'. That's the way I see the 'situ' in East Timor. Nasci Caldeira Melbourne. On Yahoo!7 360°: Your own space to share what you want with who you want! http://www.yahoo7.com.au/360 _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Fw: TIMOR LESTE
--- Anthony and Nolette de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: TIMOR LESTE It's no big deal that Australia has sent troops to reestablish order in Timor Leste for, during the Second World War, the Timorese saved hundreds of Aussies fighting the Japanese. Australia is merely returning the favour. Martinho NASCI responds: To throw more light and put the latest 'East Timor' crisis in proper perspective; I am copying todays news items in Australia, numbered 1) and 2), so Readers can form their own opinions. 1) AUSTRALIAN troops struggled to impose order in Dili today as gangs of East Timorese continued to burn and destroy houses and attack ethnic rivals. Thousands of refugees have flocked to the city's airport and to churches to escape the violence and to hear religious leaders call for unity and an end to fighting. The Australian military pledged today to disarm all Timorese gangs, soldiers and police in Dili and urged refugees to return to their homes where they would be protected. But violent outbreaks continued, with gangs armed with machetes and knives torching and smashing houses, and attacking vehicles on the road to Dili. While Australia says it currently has enough troops in East Timor, the United Nations has said a greater military force may be needed to curb the violence. In some cases, Australian convoys drove past rampaging armed gangs today, apparently because there were not enough troops to halt the violence. Attackers also melted away into houses and alleyways as soldiers approached, seemingly tipped off by spotters on the streets. A column of three armoured personnel carriers and one four-wheel drive this morning carried Australian troops into the south-western suburb of Surik Mas, where several burning houses cast plumes of black smoke into the otherwise clear morning sky. Australian soldiers searched homes beside a banana plantation as, just 100 metres away, a gang of 20 young men and children - so-called westerners - smashed their way into an abandoned home belonging to rival easterners. Wielding machetes and poles, and hurling boulders, the gang tore down steel gates and fences and began carrying out statues of the Virgin Mary and Christian crosses before setting fire to the house. One balaclava-wearing man claimed the house being targeted belonged to East Timorese defence force chief Taur Matan Ruak. We have to take them out because we are going to burn everything, and it would not be good to leave it there, one man said of the statues and crosses. Ruak armed civilian easterners to exterminate westerners, said another man, who called himself Jose Antonio. The rivalry between those from the east and west of the country is just one of the volatile elements the Australian force must deal with, and is believed to stem from divisions between those who supported the nation's battle for independence from Indonesia and those who opposed it. As they pillage and destroy, armed bands of youths chant The west is great - an apparent reference to a disgruntled band of ex-soldiers from the western part of the country who have been blamed for initially igniting the violence in Dili. Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri claims the violence is also an attempt to depose him, and rioters said the violence would not end until he had been removed. He is a communist, we hate him and he should be killed, said a man wearing a khaki t-shirt over his head and dark sunglasses. Almost the full force of 1,300 Australian troops backed by Malaysian and New Zealand soldiers is already in East Timor, and Australia says up to 50 more Australian Federal Police will be sent to Dili to help police the capital. Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said the East Timor police force no longer existed as a functional body. They've become completely dysfunctional, Mr Downer told the Nine Network. The country's United Nations special envoy, Sukehiro Hasegawa, said even more troops and police might be necessary to restore order if the current violence continued. I would not rule out the need for more security forces if the Timorese people cannot resolve their difficulties, he said as truck and busloads of UN staff were evacuated from the city. The commander of Australia's Operation Astute, Brigadier Mick Slater, said Australian soldiers had started to disarm the Timorese military and police, and would also strip the gangs of their weapons. We will be disarming everybody in Dili, he told reporters in Dili. The only people in Dili carrying weapons will be the international forces, said Brig Slater. We have enough soldiers now to do what we have to do. If we need more we will get them. Soldiers disarmed two men armed with military automatic rifles in the eastern suburb of Becora today. But the violence continued, with AAP witnessing one group beat a man on the street across from the city's main heliport. The attackers melted away into nearby houses as a column of three Australian troop carriers roared past, and reappeared
